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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:35:26 PM   
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Historian Robert S. McElvaine says no. While it sounds intuitive that a businessman would have the surest handling of the economy, the data suggest otherwise.

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Since Herbert Hoover’s 1928 election, the American people have voted out of office after a single term only three elected presidents: Hoover, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush — all of whom were successful businessmen before they were president. And the only successful business-trained president who was reelected, George W. Bush, oversaw an economic collapse at the end of his second term.

As measured in constant 2005 dollars starting on Jan. 1 of the year after they took office — the economy’s performance in the first year of a presidency is better assigned to the preceding administration — the four presidents with successful business careers had the four worst records in terms of gross domestic product performance.

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The startling bottom line is that the nation’s GDP has grown more than 45 times faster under presidents with little or no business experience than it has under presidents with successful business careers. And on average, when there has been a successful businessman in the Oval Office (so, Truman is excluded), GDP growth has been negligible.

On average, under presidents with successful business experience, GDP has increased 0.12 percent. And under presidents with little or no business experience, GDP has grown 5.46 percent.

Complete essay at The Washington Post


Thoughts? Perhaps the skills that work in business are different from those needed in government?



Bush worked out well..fuck no

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:37:05 PM   
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Considering the President created more jobs in his 1st year than in all of bush`s 8......the answer would be yes.


That's as spurious as one can get. It's hard to create any large quantity of jobs in an economy where unemployment was low.



Low unemployment under GWB........ Are you serious ? The number reached record highs on his watch and Obama inherited these.

From may 2008 to may 2009 they shot up by four million and kept going up that year. Obama has stabalised them and grought them down by 2 million from 2009 until now, and that in an economic crisis.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

As for Romney, his philosophy, is he likes to fire people. I wouldnt expect much job creation there.


May 2008 to May 2009 is hardly the totality of Bush's 8 years in office. Reread all the above. Do you see your mistake?



But 9/11 was.......he did so well too. Hiding out like a pussy on his fucking plane while the capital was being bombed.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:38:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bush also inherited the Enron bubble burst given to him by Slick Willy and never once laid blame at that bubba's feet. Sometimes, a chief executive just has to stand up. Obama hasn't and won't. He'll just keep reaching back four years and blaming Bush instead of saying: "I screwed up. I didn't realize the depth of the job but, I'll do better this time." I don't think I've ever taken more pleasure in someone losing their job.



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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:39:28 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:41:53 PM   
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It was burned in the War of 1812.

I do not recall it being bombed ever.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:46:11 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:47:11 PM   
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Yeah bush stood up. stood up to go hiding while the capital was being bombed.....fucking pussy



LOL.

Yes, I can just see President Obama, gigantic in his righteousness, straddling the towers, and swatting down the 757's, straight out of the remake King Kong movie.

Your post is ignorant on so many levels, DYB, I just don't see a point in trying to correct it.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:50:08 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:50:29 PM   
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The flight into the pentagon wasn't a bomb?


No. At best you could argue it was a guided missle.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:54:39 PM   
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Yeah bush stood up. stood up to go hiding while the capital was being bombed.....fucking pussy



LOL.

Yes, I can just see President Obama, gigantic in his righteousness, straddling the towers, and swatting down the 757's, straight out of the remake King Kong movie.

Your post is ignorant on so many levels, DYB, I just don't see a point in trying to correct it.


He seems to not understand that when the US is attacked the president and vice-president are put into motion for a reason. He also does not seem to recall that Pres. Bush was in Florida at the time.

Of course, Republicans/Conservatives can do NO right in his eyes. So there ya go.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:54:45 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:54:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't recall Bush hiding that day, either. I do remember a pre-planned photo op in (?)Florida(?)

So, unless our young vocal friend is trying to say that the attacks were a conspiracy (indicating he's crossed over into "Tin Foil Land"), I don't see how Bush "stood up to go hiding".

On the other hand, President Obama has failed to stand up to his own very public screw ups at almost every opportunity. One of the most egregious being his continuation of Bush stimulus policies that failed and then, he laid them at Bush's feet when it was he who had the ability to end them. That's a fucking pussy but what can you expect from politicians from Chicago?



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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:56:02 PM   
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And, a missle isn't a bomb?


No, it is not.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 5:59:24 PM   
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I don't recall Bush hiding that day, either. I do remember a pre-planned photo op in (?)Florida(?)

So, unless our young vocal friend is trying to say that the attacks were a conspiracy (indicating he's crossed over into "Tin Foil Land"), I don't see how Bush "stood up to go hiding".

On the other hand, President Obama has failed to stand up to his own very public screw ups at almost every opportunity. One of the most egregious being his continuation of Bush stimulus policies that failed and then, he laid them at Bush's feet when it was he who had the ability to end them. That's a fucking pussy but when can you expect from politicians from Chicago?



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That he didn't have the sense to realize he was reading a book upside down....silly ass.

Then what did he do after the photo op.....I mean after he had a change of panties and did a few lines in the bathroom

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:00:44 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:01:46 PM   
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I don't recall Bush hiding that day, either. I do remember a pre-planned photo op in (?)Florida(?)

So, unless our young vocal friend is trying to say that the attacks were a conspiracy (indicating he's crossed over into "Tin Foil Land"), I don't see how Bush "stood up to go hiding".

On the other hand, President Obama has failed to stand up to his own very public screw ups at almost every opportunity. One of the most egregious being his continuation of Bush stimulus policies that failed and then, he laid them at Bush's feet when it was he who had the ability to end them. That's a fucking pussy but what can you expect from politicians from Chicago?



Peace and comfort,



Michael


As I told another friend last night (somewhat altered):

If he honestly believes that everything that the other side says is a lie or is that corrupt/without honor, and if enough people in his camp also believe this, then there is no civil discourse left and the two sides do not belong in the same nation.

I will also note, that as the side that is committed to protecting "my lady parts" he feels quite free to use those parts as a derogatory term.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:02:53 PM   
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I don't recall Bush hiding that day, either. I do remember a pre-planned photo op in (?)Florida(?)

So, unless our young vocal friend is trying to say that the attacks were a conspiracy (indicating he's crossed over into "Tin Foil Land"), I don't see how Bush "stood up to go hiding".

On the other hand, President Obama has failed to stand up to his own very public screw ups at almost every opportunity. One of the most egregious being his continuation of Bush stimulus policies that failed and then, he laid them at Bush's feet when it was he who had the ability to end them. That's a fucking pussy but when can you expect from politicians from Chicago?



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Michael


That he didn't have the sense to realize he was reading a book upside down....silly ass.

Then what did he do after the photo op.....I mean after he had a change of panties and did a few lines in the bathroom


Ahhhh! The Truth Team memo did make it out: if you can't refute the fact, change the argument to something else. So far, we have intelligence and drugs. Can "racist" be far behind? If I were a betting man, I know where my money would go.



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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:03:18 PM   
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would expect nothing less


Than what? Knowing the difference between types of munitions?

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:04:18 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:05:36 PM   
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As I told another friend last night (somewhat altered):

If he honestly believes that everything that the other side says is a lie or is that corrupt/without honor, and if enough people in his camp also believe this, then there is no civil discourse left and the two sides do not belong in the same nation.

I will also note, that as the side that is committed to protecting "my lady parts" he feels quite free to use those parts as a derogatory term.


Unfortunately, "civil" left the discourse game in politics, a long time ago. It has become fear-mongering and half truths; anything to gain power.

As for the rest, I refer you to a quote by Mark Twain: "What a shame that youth is wasted on the young"



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