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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:06:55 PM   
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I don't believe I used the word Vagina, Did I?


Nope. You did the "manly" type thing and used "pussy". Kudos to you for your sensitivity!

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:10:40 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:13:42 PM   
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Unfortunately, "civil" left the discourse game in politics, a long time ago. It has become fear-mongering and half truths; anything to gain power.

Two quick thoughts:

(a) At the risk of sounding like a broken record (is there an MP3-era equivalent of that simile?), American politics have always been less civil than we like to imagine. Adams's and Jefferson's partisans said and wrote stuff that would make Rahm Emmanuel blush.

(b) Fear-mongering and half-truths are bipartisan activities, alas.



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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:17:00 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:17:50 PM   
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Bush also inherited the Enron bubble burst given to him by Slick Willy and never once laid blame at that bubba's feet. Sometimes, a chief executive just has to stand up. Obama hasn't and won't. He'll just keep reaching back four years and blaming Bush instead of saying: "I screwed up. I didn't realize the depth of the job but, I'll do better this time." I don't think I've ever taken more pleasure in someone losing their job.



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The Enron bubble burst over a period of a few months in late 2001. Enron’s stock price had already been sliding for months, from $80 per share in February to around $30 in early October. Enron had been using its stock value as collateral to obtain loans from complicated “partnerships.” These partnerships allowed Enron, using questionable accounting techniques, to exclude this debt from its annual reports and thus inflate its apparent profits. On October 16, 2001, Enron third-quarter report indicated a $638 million loss along with an unexplained reduction in shareholder equity of $1.2 billion related to these partnerships.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:23:56 PM   
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Yes to confirm again......Business Executives would be the worst people to be President. The skill sets are quite diametrically opposed....i.e. GWB


You're right, of course. Who would want someone who has been successful at stewarding business enterprises through the maze of tax law, copyright law, health care law, disability law, contractual law and still managed to make a few sheckles along the way? I would also argue, here that GWB was not a very successful businessman, actually. He was kind of mediocre and I think his performance over eight years reflected that.

I much prefer an un-known civil rights lawyer from Chicago (there's an oxy-moron) that has only shown failure in regards to the ability to lead our country.

God Bless Barack Obama in his retirement!



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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:26:08 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:29:41 PM   
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Try it this way, DC.

When Mitt Romney went into business, he learned the rules of the game as it was played, and he excelled. He did the same with the Salt Lake Olympics, and then as a Governor. Based on that track record, I'm willing to see him take on the task of being President of these United States.

The guy we've got, isn't up to the job. We need to let him go.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:35:48 PM   
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When Mitt Romney went into business, he learned the rules of the game as it was played, and he excelled. He did the same with the Salt Lake Olympics, and then as a Governor. Based on that track record, I'm willing to see him take on the task of being President of these United States.

Well said, Rich. And thanks for bringing us back to the topic!

One thing I keep wondering about, though: Wasn't Romney's signature accomplishment as governor (which he now seems to have disowned) remarkably akin to Obama's top legislative achievement?

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:38:30 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:43:07 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:44:49 PM   
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Mitten`s also had a piss poor record on job creation as governor.....I think 47th.......... in the nation at the time.
 
But with all the romnesia.....no one remembers that....

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:45:59 PM   
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We have four years of proof of that little factoid.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:46:00 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:48:36 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:55:20 PM   
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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 6:56:29 PM   
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The problem with Romney is we truly don't know who he is. He passed an Insurance Mandate in MASS and walked away from it. He said he'd veto the Dream Act during the primaries and announced he'd pass is during the debates. He'll say or do anything to become President.

As President, Romney's most important job is the selection of his staff. Will he put the fox in charge of the hen house? For his agenda, will he repeal Wall Street Regulation? Will he dismantle the Consumer Protection Division? Will he appoint a Supreme Court Justice that will overturn Roe v. Wade? Will he be able to negotiate with IRAN? Will he defund Planned Parenthood? Would he raise taxes to help balance the budget? Nobody knows.

How is he different than the failed policies and choices of the BUSH Administration that grew government, mismanaged two wars, had the Katrina fiasco, and led the economy over a cliff?

What will he do if Congress won't pass his legislation?

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 7:05:24 PM   
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When Mitt Romney went into business, he learned the rules of the game as it was played, and he excelled. He did the same with the Salt Lake Olympics, and then as a Governor. Based on that track record, I'm willing to see him take on the task of being President of these United States.

Well said, Rich. And thanks for bringing us back to the topic!
One thing I keep wondering about, though: Wasn't Romney's signature accomplishment as governor (which he now seems to have disowned) remarkably akin to Obama's top legislative achievement?


Yes, dc, it was. However, there are things that have been left up to the States or the People that are not within the authorities given to the Federal Government. You can acknowledge that basic truth, right (and, I'm not specifically talking about healthcare, health insurance, etc.; simply a general statement)?

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 7:09:01 PM   
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When Mitt Romney went into business, he learned the rules of the game as it was played, and he excelled. He did the same with the Salt Lake Olympics, and then as a Governor. Based on that track record, I'm willing to see him take on the task of being President of these United States.

Well said, Rich. And thanks for bringing us back to the topic!

One thing I keep wondering about, though: Wasn't Romney's signature accomplishment as governor (which he now seems to have disowned) remarkably akin to Obama's top legislative achievement?


Yes and no.

Not being from Massachusettes, I am unsure if "Romneycare" was his most important piece of legislation. But I will go along with you and say that it is.

So, yes, healthcare is healthcare.

The no part. State versus federal. He imposed Romneycare at the state level. Which means that it only affects citizens of the state of Massachusettes. Obamacare is at the federal level. Which means that it affects EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN.

Each state should be free to develop their own plan. For example, the needs of rural Kansas are not the same needs as Connecticut.

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RE: Is a Businessman President Good for Business? - 10/21/2012 7:17:23 PM   
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that would be a yes


Pick your language precisely and correctly. I could have accused you of being a liar.


On the other hand, I do not see having a working vocabulary as being a character defect.

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