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LookieNoNookie -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:01:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Two weeks to go...! Even the most ardent political enthusiast is surely growing weary of the spin and bluster this election cycle has afforded us. I’ve had a few people ask me what I thought about the debate last night, so here goes.

For those that think Obama won last evenings debate, I suggest you put down your glass of Kool-Aid. The current President came off pretentious and condescending at best. The President didn’t display any greater level of knowledge or understanding of past or current foreign events than did Romney. Now considering the President does have occupational necessary data and statistics available to him that the challenger would not, shouldn’t he seem wiser at least to some degree, even though he didn’t? The President also spent the entirety of his time attempting to again slander his opponent as opposed to inform and lay out a coherent strategy for the future.

Only Romney demonstrated that he has plans for dealing with foreign hostiles and the foreign trade relationships that trouble us, primarily he spoke to relations with China and Latin America. While Obama can bring in advisors in to assist with these business and financial matters, I have a growing confidence that Romney, while most likely also willing to solicit advise, understands business matters enough to move forward and make decisions based on his own knowledge and experience, hence he will be much less likely to make the mistakes with American wealth and services that has plagued the Obama administration.

Additionally, I think once all the fact checkers finish sorting through the nonsense that the President was spouting last night such as sequestration, the Russian Geo-Political comments and several items where his credibility on the facts is in question, more and more people will not only change their mind as to who won this debate, but will question this presidents integrity on the whole when he faces moments of desperation. Remember, this president didn’t waste time throwing his own crew and fellow liberal Hillary under the bus recently when things went awry, how long before he kicks the rest of us under the bus. He does after all believe he will have greater flexibility in back room deal making once he is re-elected; assuming we’re foolish enough to give him a continued chance to weaken America even further.

Finally, neither of these men has served this country in a warrior’s capacity and for either to imply that they have a greater understanding than the other candidate of a soldier’s needs and capabilities is offensive to me. Obama’s condescending remarks about horses, bayonets and aircraft carriers, to me demonstrated that he has no real intention to advance national military strength, but rather is only out to confuse and hopefully diminish Romney’s point of building a military capable of serving all the missions that we increasingly pile upon them. The protection of we the people and our constitution is the primary duty of the federal government and this duty is first on the list of priorities for the Commander in Chief. If the fed wasn’t so consumed with filling its own pockets through tax revenues, as well as fostering dependency with certain voter segments and special interests by its social welfare programs, which if necessary are actually state areas of concern, the military budget would be easily affordable while cutting taxes and I do believe this is Romney’s point.



Obama won, by a fairly decent margin (posted by a Republican).




Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:05:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

And Obama knew that. He sent Hillary out to blame that video. He sent Susan Rice to 5 Sunday morning talk shows to blame that video and he himself went to the UN to blame that video. It was all a big lie.  




Then you can show us this evidence of the president blaming the attack on the film, then.

When he and the rest of us got the correct info,we all made a note and moved on.

You STILL haven`t shown us what the lie was.Which make you a liar.


It should be pretty simple and do-able considering this mountain of evidence you`re keeping secret .




servantforuse -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:10:24 PM)

It took them 14 days to get the story right. Sleep on this tonight. State Dept e-mails..




Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:12:28 PM)

Quick note cuz I don`t think Clown Trump needs his own thread but the big Obama surprise tommorrow..........................<drum roll>


Papers showing they almost got divorced in 2000.......which isn`t news or new.


Unless there is a charge of adultry......it`ll be another trump-fail......



[image]http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-politics/2012/02/02/mitt-trumpx-large.jpg[/image]




xBullx -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:13:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Obama won, by a fairly decent margin (posted by a Republican).



Well that makes it all better.... End of debate.[8|]

Come on..... Just because you think you have some score card that your high school speech coach used to grade you in debate class affords you no moral high ground.

The effects of this last debate will still be unfolding after the election.




Lucylastic -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:18:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xBullx



No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.


Lucy, please don't get mad at me and stop using those amazing ass shots for your avatars. I love them.

We both understand the art of leaving a statement ambiguous for future utilization. It is my opinion that the above statement was a carefully constructed proclamation that could be utilized in either direction as future events would unfold. To that point, I don’t believe that the final card over Benghazi has even been played; I suspect that the culprits of this act will be, or at least were going to be political cannon fodder within the next two weeks. Had Romney bit on Obama’s desire to make the Benghazi act a bigger issue that defines presidential leadership, Obama would have been able to simply use the capture or killing of the terrorists as a rally cry. Damn that Romney for not cooperating and taking the bate.

Now, I could be wrong about all this; hell some of you might even want to toss me a roll of tinfoil, but politics and chess are the world’s two most cerebral contests.


Heh Bull, I wont stop using them, promise:)
I dont disagree with you regarding the final card... or the fact that it was left open to be used as it went forward. The speech had to be open to a certain extent, so many instances of protests and information flying in and out, and obviously from the fallout, no matter what he said or didnt say would be twisted and misconstrued. Classified intelligence is called classified intelligence for a reason.
NO tinfoiling needed







Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:18:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It took them 14 days to get the story right. Sleep on this tonight. State Dept e-mails..


He said the day after in the Rose Garden on live TV that it was a terrorist act......in English even......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxjz5wEcF0


You can watch it yourself.

Notice the date/time.

It says Sept 12. 

Which is the day after Sept.11

Really....it is .....it`s math. 




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:18:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Newly released e-mails from the State Dept will show that Obama knew immediatly that the embassy attack had nothing to do with a you tube video. They knew because alquaida took responsibility for that attack. A minor detail to the liar in chief.


Careful or I'll name a tampon after you.




Lucylastic -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:19:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Quick note cuz I don`t think Clown Trump needs his own thread but the big Obama surprise tommorrow..........................<drum roll>


Papers showing they almost got divorced in 2000.......which isn`t news or new.


Unless there is a charge of adultry......it`ll be another trump-fail......



[image]http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-politics/2012/02/02/mitt-trumpx-large.jpg[/image]

I am still wondering what the Alldred woman has up her sleeve or if shes backed off with her "october surprise"
weeeeeeeee




Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:23:08 PM)

Alldred better get the donald`s PR guy cuz I didn`t hear about that.




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:25:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Arturas
which makes me feel even worse for thinking it was you...
I actually feel really bad right now


Now I feel bad for "making" him say "If you can't stand the heat, get back in the kitchen".




xBullx -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:45:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Quick note cuz I don`t think Clown Trump needs his own thread but the big Obama surprise tommorrow..........................<drum roll>


Papers showing they almost got divorced in 2000.......which isn`t news or new.


Unless there is a charge of adultry......it`ll be another trump-fail......



I hate this kind of superfluous nonsense. If you’re right and someone thinks the exploitation of a personal issue such as divorce is a good strategy I’m not impressed. It’s petty and shows a lack of the brand of character that I value.




absolutchocolat -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:51:03 PM)

well at least comb-over man isn't running for high office anymore. i think the world is breathing a deep sigh of relief for that.




Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 8:53:35 PM)

[image]http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/trump-hair.jpg[/image]




Lucylastic -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 9:32:13 PM)

shudder




BenevolentM -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 10:38:41 PM)

I find what xBullx writes is much worth reading.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

In 4.6 Billion years (give or take 6 months), the sun will cool down to the point that life on earth will be impossible.

The Republicans will blame Clinton.


This is true. The Republicans will blame Clinton. They will also blame Obama and I fear rightfully so. Promised so much, but what he gave us was a continuation of the Bush administration. The person who seems to represent real change right now isn't Obama, but Romney. What did Bush give us? Bush gave us debit and failed to take the bull by the horns on 9/11. Recall how Bush just sat there like a dear in headlights? What did Obama do on 9/11? He ran off to Sin City. Both men, both Presidents, buried their heads in the sand. Did Bush give us any leadership when leadership was needed before the bubble burst? We have been living under years of economic mismanagement, absent management. With Bush it was the war, with Obama it is healthcare. Both men had/have tunnel vision. I see more similarities between Obama and Bush than I do differences.




Owner59 -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 10:43:53 PM)

Ummmm  Obamacare is only unpopular with the cons.......who mostly have healthcare......

Best get back to your monolog.....it`s much deeper thought.....




DesideriScuri -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 10:44:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
[image]http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/trump-hair.jpg[/image]


LMAO!!! Good stuff!




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/23/2012 10:50:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

[image]http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/trump-hair.jpg[/image]


Tomorrow Donald Trump goes down in history by giving his "I Have A Meme" speech

Rumors in the field say is he has some guy who's willing to say Obama dealt coke.

Like penises, Gloria's is bigger.




DesideriScuri -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/24/2012 4:53:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL
Tomorrow Donald Trump goes down in history by giving his "I Have A Meme" speech

LOL!!!
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Rumors in the field say is he has some guy who's willing to say Obama dealt coke.

Would it have been better if it was Pepsi® or RC Cola®? [8D]
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Like penises, Gloria's is bigger.

Oh, I don't know. "The Donald" is a pretty big dick.




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