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DomYngBlk -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/24/2012 5:43:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xBullx


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Wow..Bull, man. You have traveled over to ga-ga land. No more safe today? Then you will always be hiding out looking for the boogey man.


I do believe I said there is no less threat of terorism. The homeland does appear to me safer, but as I mentioned that is due to the agencies and not the politicians, unless you want to give credit to "W" for refunding Langley after Clinton cut them to pieces.

Concurrently, I don't hide from any "boogeyman", I enjoy the hunt.

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so what is it that Obama was supposed to do to make you feel all good about our Consulate being overrun in Libya? What would make it all better? He's investigating obviously, He's changed the manning around the other embassies, he's taken responsibility for 4 of our countrymen being murdered, he has vowed to get who did it(I don't have to remind you how much of Al Queda he has killed. This attack being retaliation for one of those hits). So anything else that he's missed?


With regards to the Libyan issue there's very little he's doing now that bothers me, he finally shut up. I don't know all the details and frankly unlike a lot of these other folks wanting details so they can make political hodge-podge with it, I prefer he hold his lips tight to not compromise mission security, just like he should have done when he was trying to blame that fuckin' video. That's it, I'm an old warrior, I think he should respect my brothers right to survive...............Mission Security...........Mission Security, not just when it's politically convenient, but always.

Other than that, he apparently missed the message from the ambassador that he needed help and was in danger. But that's hindsight; I'll wait for proper investigations now.



I do not agree that Clinton cut up the CIA. On the contrary. His data was always pretty good. The case can be made that it was Dubya that first didn't believe the intel coming in about Bin Ladens' threat to the homeland...or even worse ignored it. Then second, he then proceeded to over react and let loose the darkest side of some of the Ops people and waterboarding and worse happened on a wholesale scale. The lessons of 9/11 weren't learned and the CIA did not take the teaching of the FBI on how to obtain information from a combantant. Dubya's actions crippled the image of the Agency and did nothing to increase operatives in the places that we needed them.

The case can be further made that Obama's reaction to the Bush years were to take a harsh knife to the place in the first two years. I think it can be fairly stated that we've increased operatives throughout the world and have assets well placed.

I also think that someone on the Republican side should have cut Romney's balls off for stepping into the situation and creating confusion to both allies and enemies alike. Another reason why he can't be trusted with the Presidency




Moonhead -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/24/2012 6:12:34 AM)


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I also think that someone on the Republican side should have cut Romney's balls off for stepping into the situation and creating confusion to both allies and enemies alike.

Captain Magicpants has balls? There's been no sign of that in any of the debates so far...




LookieNoNookie -> RE: About last night, for what it's worth. (10/24/2012 3:28:13 PM)


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Obama won, by a fairly decent margin (posted by a Republican).



Well that makes it all better.... End of debate.[8|]

Come on..... Just because you think you have some score card that your high school speech coach used to grade you in debate class affords you no moral high ground.

The effects of this last debate will still be unfolding after the election.


Indeed.




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