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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 10:48:45 PM   
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I can also see how they might think - did I set myself up for that?


I can see how someone walking down a dark back alley in a bad part of town, drunk, alone, at night, in a microskirt, might think "did I set myself up for a shitty experience?"; yet, curiously, it's generally frowned upon to say "she was asking for it", and so I have to wonder if perhaps, sometimes, it might be best not to give people what we think they're asking for. Even if the sadist in me thinks it's hilarious to watch, that annoying "responsible citizen" dude keeps giving me a hard time about that.

As for cliques, it's an emergent thing, not a conspiracy. People tend to confuse the two. I apologize for using such an unclear word myself in this thread.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 10:49:23 PM   
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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 10:51:02 PM   
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I would like to see some examples of threads where this has been happening - because Im not sure what this pack is, or who is in this pack - or for that matter what the pack was attacking. Maybe some perspective would help. Its easy to say there is a Pack mentality going on here - but Id like to see proof.


What would be the use? That would lead to 5 more pages of bullshit, with you taking up 4 pages of them argueing it to the death. You must be starved for attention.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 10:53:01 PM   
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I can also see how they might think - did I set myself up for that?


I can see how someone walking down a dark back alley in a bad part of town, drunk, alone, at night, in a microskirt, might think "did I set myself up for a shitty experience?"; yet, curiously, it's generally frowned upon to say "she was asking for it", and so I have to wonder if perhaps, sometimes, it might be best not to give people what we think they're asking for. Even if the sadist in me thinks it's hilarious to watch, that annoying "responsible citizen" dude keeps giving me a hard time about that.

As for cliques, it's an emergent thing, not a conspiracy. People tend to confuse the two. I apologize for using such an unclear word myself in this thread.

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In response to this - I can set up an example where I was raped several years ago. Yes the action of the rapist was wrong. But looking back - I was hanging out with the wrong people, and If I had made better choices of what people I was hanging out with, where I was hanging out - that incident would of never happened.


The same goes for anything in life - If you set yourself up for something - then dont be surprised when consequences happen.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 10:55:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well anniezz since there has been an accusation of this happening - sometimes some examples of what the people that are making these accusations can be proven and be confirmed. Otherwise its called talkingheads. And if you are so worried about the length and content of this thread, then dont read it.

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I would like to see some examples of threads where this has been happening - because Im not sure what this pack is, or who is in this pack - or for that matter what the pack was attacking. Maybe some perspective would help. Its easy to say there is a Pack mentality going on here - but Id like to see proof.


What would be the use? That would lead to 5 more pages of bullshit, with you taking up 4 pages of them argueing it to the death. You must be starved for attention.



< Message edited by JanahX -- 11/10/2012 11:09:24 PM >

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:05:02 PM   
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He still thinks I'm an arpig sock, so I find his logic non-existent. ;)


He thought EVERYONE was an arpig sock - including me until I actually talked to him in r/l !!!


I told him I wouldn't Skype with him just to quell his paranoia. :P

Edited to change satisfy to quell, since satisfy his paranoia would suggest he'd get arpig on the other end of a Skyping session. *LOL*

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:05:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		A few random thoughts:

I'll admit that I haven't read the TOS, I'm not familiar with the guidelines, and I don't see where there is a particular theme or ideology in place for the message board other than it is segregated to reflect specific interests. In that, I take it to be a discussion board. Not a support group, not a helping hand, not a designated place to find solace. Does that happen? Sure. Is that the intent? Not from what I can see.

Having said that - I wouldn't say that those who post regularly are a bunch of meanies. I would say that there are those that appear to go out of their way to spew vitriol. I don't see these people as leaders of the board or of a clique, even if others agree with what they are saying when they are pontificating or being especially repugnant. They rarely see themselves as being as much of the problem as those they are spewing on and honestly, it's pretty entertaining at times. Not for the spewee, obviously. Perhaps for the popcorn eaters.

I can think of a few instances where I've seen posters blow something completely out of context, freak the fuck out, curse and carry on, and take offense to something that was not intended to be offensive. I'm not talking in response to an OP, I'm talking in response to a post from someone who obviously doesn't post much and isn't typing in what appears to be acceptable internet language around here. An African American Domme posted in response to an OP and in her response she used current slang. She only had a few posts under her belt. A few people didn't understand her post and instead of asking her to clarify, they jumped all over her. She came back, apologized for any offense and explained the context of her post. However, that was ignored and more vitriol was spewed. I haven't seen her back since. I've seen other instances in which something similar happened. Posters bashed for their opinion or experiences which don't line up with some of those with different opinions or experiences. It doesn't mean these people are too sensitive to handle the discussion board. It means that they aren't inclined or choose not to continue. It's not a reflection of their personality or integrity but of their tolerance for the absurd.

You (general you) can have 20,000 really great, helpful, and charitable posts and it still only takes a handful to lead to a negative impression. Pointing out some of ones really nice posts doesn't negate some really awful ones. There are a handful of people here that I find to be hateful, spiteful, malicious, unpleasant, and constantly going out of their way to find offense where none was intended and likewise give offense where none is warranted. For whatever reason, perhaps their knowledge base or perhaps they are attractive, it would seem that the CM community finds it acceptable and it's par the course.

I've interacted with some really cool people from here and I have no complaints with My experience. These are just some observations.




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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:11:58 PM   
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But the thing is ML - I did answer his question. If other posters didnt like the answer, then thats their problem. He asked a specific question - and I answered it. If someone comes on here and asks a specific question and someone answers them with something that is not insulated in bubble wrap and they get offended -then maybe they need to think about what theyre posting in the first place.


Actually, this is not accurate.

You do not know that person - at least no one else here has any evidence of that, so you can't assume that anyone will know, unless you state it, and you didn't. You only knew his post. And you have no way of knowing if his post is representative for his personality - or if that is just a personal perception of yours that is not shared with other people.

Now, you are entitled to YOUR opinion about what you know, and that is his POST, not his person.

But you do not know the answer to his question!

Your answer was about the PERSON, not the post. THAT's the problem.

I know, his question wasn't smart, in the first place. I can even agree to calling it stupid. And your answer was understandable. But it nevertheless turned into a personal attack on the person because you made a bunch of assumptions you truly had no legitimate reason to make, not matter how understandable they might appear to be...

I have an easy time forgiving you for this one, but it does represent a great illustration of how easy it is to slide from commenting to postings to making personal attacks. And personal attacks ALWAYS lead to problems, even though they might not be made visible to everybody.



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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:15:47 PM   
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I just see it the same way I would react to entertainment on tv or reading a magazine or newspaper.


Consuming what others produce without being invested in the production.

Does that seem like an accurate summary?

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NB: Not saying you don't produce. You do. I've appreciated several contributions.



I consume things everyday that I'm not invested in....the internet being one of them. Food, most businesses, people, products I buy, etc...I don't go around feeling like I have to do anything to consume it or that I should care about it except as something I want or need. I don't really care where most things came from or how they were made or what went into creating them. I'm not a curious person for the most part and I've done my share of activism when I was young, naive and idealistic.


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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:18:53 PM   
JanahX


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Status: offline 		I think that if someone had asked: Am I cat?

and someone had answered: Are you fucking high on dope? That person responded to the question.

Now when someone asks: Am I stupid?

And I responded: "Youre pretty fucking stupid ... NEXT -"
That is also a response that was actually relevant to the question asked. Now if he didnt want to know - WHY DID HE ASK IN THE FIRST PLACE?

And how was this a personal attack when he had already placed himself in the postion of being stupid to begin with? I didnt call him stupid - I was agreeing that yes, I believe he is stupid.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:20:30 PM   
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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:21:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dont have to know him - I know youre and I dont know you.

Actually - I thought that him posing the question in the first place was pretty stupid - so I went off of that.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:21:16 PM   
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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:22:57 PM   
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I dont have to know him - I know youre stupid and I dont know you.


WRONG BITCH...i'm a fucking cat

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:25:35 PM   
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I dont have to know him - I know youre and I dont know you.


WRONG BITCH...i'm a fucking cat


Now Im a bitch? What else am I anniezz? Please - do go on.

< Message edited by JanahX -- 11/10/2012 11:26:14 PM >

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:25:49 PM   
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I dont have to know him - I know youre stupid and I dont know you.


Well you did ask for an example, but you didn't need to provide it.

Action without thought.

How is that different from the OPs that get judged?





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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:26:49 PM   
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The same goes for anything in life - If you set yourself up for something - then dont be surprised when consequences happen.


To put it less sensitively than I usually would, you didn't deserve to "get what you asked for".

See where I'm going with this?

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:27:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I went out and smoked a cigg - and thought about it, and it was based off of his original question - then I came back and clarified my answer.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:30:00 PM   
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I consume things everyday that I'm not invested in....the internet being one of them. Food, most businesses, people, products I buy, etc...I don't go around feeling like I have to do anything to consume it or that I should care about it except as something I want or need. I don't really care where most things came from or how they were made or what went into creating them. I'm not a curious person for the most part and I've done my share of activism when I was young, naive and idealistic.


Which is fair enough for a slave, as I see it. I have no problem with you.

For non-slaves, though, I think it's irresponsible behavior.

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RE: So are we a bunch of meanies? - 11/10/2012 11:31:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		But I set myself up for it. If I had not - then it would of never happened. It was MY FAULT 100%.

Anyways this shit isnt about me anyways - or one post that I made. And if Im the only one on these boards that is making rude and unwelcome comments - then I'll be happy to go. I wouldnt want the newbies to be put off by me -

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