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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/7/2012 3:35:36 PM

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 8:24:54 AM

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Instead of complaining about how bdsm has lost its way, read this article. At least 50 Shades has been useful for something.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 10:28:42 AM

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I feel sad when bdsm has to have politics as well.
It's just suppose to be this fun thing that makes life less ordinary and more interesting to live in.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 12:51:16 PM

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This is so true, its been packaged and marketed in the lowest of denominators,shades of grey didnt help, u can now buy vanilla bdsm kits online.....i do have a problem with the yuppie type that reads a book and says they are a Domme/Dom, it takes from the ppl that have real and integral feelings that arent just a passing phase-nor a catch word status..Its like the profiles that say all this stuff about bien this and that, live the lifestyle crap...oh and im 19.....your 19 and u know all this and have all this experience...I THINK NOT!!!!go read another book...lol...SO how do we change this? time and further seperation from the money spending masses(your not kinky untill u spend money type) i was in a 17 year Domme/sub relationship long before internet hype came to be, we spent zero money and had very few props ,but what we did have was an awsome long term lifestyle relationship.... sadly ended with her death from a incurable disease...almost 8 years ago now.RIP.......so in sumerization....get real ,be real, get off the puter, throw the book out and experience life , practice what u blab about...4-real....use your ears not your mouth and learn before U talk ,not to look like and be a poser or a fool....jmho...

What absolute bollocks So bloody what if you can buy BDSM kits online now. Why the hell would you have a problem with the 'yuppie type'? If you don't like them then leave them alone. They are none of your business.
and then you ask, 'how do we change this?' What the hell?
You sound very bitter and very judgmental and its unusual for me to have such a rant but you just got my frigging goat.

actually its not a load of crap...but im not here to argue opinions, OPINIONS!,...Im certainly not an expert , evan bieng in the scene over 20 years.....so i will surly take yours as respectfully as u took mine...take care and dont be bitter.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 1:17:11 PM

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IDK..
I find it very spiritual. I know when I am slipping deep into oblivion I tend to call out "oh god oh god oh god"

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 2:25:50 PM

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In my experience there is only a small percentage of society that seeks to find deeper meaning in themselves and life in general. For the most part people are like cattle. A few strike out in a direction and many follow. Watch the herd enough and you will see pockets of cattle here and there and stragglers everywhere. There really doesn't seem to be any reason to it or purpose of any depth.

I actually don't care how BDSM is seen or how people want it to evolve. I guess I am one of those stragglers going off in my own direction. Not looking behind me to see if anyone is following and not looking where others are so I might join them. No, I have a pretty good idea of what I am doing and what I want. If there is a few that want to walk with me all the better for me. But I don't want them to be with thinking I am going to bring them where the grass is greener and sweeter. I would prefer they just like who am and want to journey life with me.

As usual, I agree with what KoM wrote.

To each their own

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/8/2012 5:29:34 PM

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

Um, no.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 1:08:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

Um, no.

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I guess that settles that then.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 7:47:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

Um, no.

Why not?

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 10:05:17 AM

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I think I see the problem. When I posted in this thread I hit 'reply to kalikshama' when in fact my comment was directed to the original poster. I suppose I am not yet in tune with the discussion interface.

But back on topic - in the past year I have heard motorcycling, hiking, and even ice hockey(?!) described as a 'spiritual experience' by certain people and come to the belief that anything that releases alters dopamine and serotonin sufficiently seems to be a 'spiritual experience'.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 3:12:48 PM

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In my experience there is only a small percentage of society that seeks to find deeper meaning in themselves and life in general. For the most part people are like cattle. A few strike out in a direction and many follow. Watch the herd enough and you will see pockets of cattle here and there and stragglers everywhere. There really doesn't seem to be any reason to it or purpose of any depth.

I actually don't care how BDSM is seen or how people want it to evolve. I guess I am one of those stragglers going off in my own direction. Not looking behind me to see if anyone is following and not looking where others are so I might join them. No, I have a pretty good idea of what I am doing and what I want. If there is a few that want to walk with me all the better for me. But I don't want them to be with thinking I am going to bring them where the grass is greener and sweeter. I would prefer they just like who am and want to journey life with me.

As usual, I agree with what KoM wrote.

To each their own

Totally agree - that post rocks.

Not sure I agree, necessarily, with Inghammar's statement that a spiritual experience is anything we really enjoy doing, but that statement has had me thinking on it for awhile now.

I mean, I like eating ice cream, but I don't find eating ice cream to be a spiritual experience.

However, I consider myself a spiritual being, so in some way I'd say *everything* I do is a spiritual experience. Maybe it's just that eating ice cream isn't a spiritually enlightening experience.

I'm liking this thread, though. It's had me mull on some things over here.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 3:24:32 PM

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But back on topic - in the past year I have heard motorcycling, hiking, and even ice hockey(?!) described as a 'spiritual experience' ...

Don't diss ice hockey.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 3:43:09 PM

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But back on topic - in the past year I have heard motorcycling, hiking, and even ice hockey(?!) described as a 'spiritual experience' ...

Don't diss ice hockey.

Heh. Check my profile.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/9/2012 5:24:24 PM

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For me personally, absolutely everything in life is spiritual. God is involved in everything I do, but that's just me. So yeah, it CAN be anything you want it to be depending on just how involved your deity/deities is/are involved in your daily life.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/10/2012 3:57:22 AM

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lw - that avatar is sooo cute!

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/10/2012 9:09:04 PM

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Thanks. It's my Christmas mouse

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/10/2012 10:31:06 PM

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Adorable!!

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/19/2012 5:39:10 AM

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There was a point in time where BDSM could have become a Westen version of Tantra and brought improvements to relationships, communication, consent, and personal freedom.

Sadly, it has lost its way and become no better than porn, a sad and tawdry refection of the lowest common denomonator. It celebrates young women and photos utterly divorced from deep connection and inner exploration and growth.

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/19/2012 12:23:56 PM

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I guess what passes as a 'spiritual experience' these days is anything you really enjoy doing.

Um, no.

Why not?

I responded under the assumption that Inghammar was responding to my post "Just as my yoga practice is comprised of the elements I desire, so is my BDSM practice" but as he has clarified, he was actually responding to the OP, so disregard my comment. This would be a great topic for a new thread, though.

Inghammar - to avoid confusion, I never use the Fast Reply box but rather click Reply in the post to which I wish to respond, which creates the correct In Reply To :)

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RE: BDSM has lost its way - 12/19/2012 12:25:40 PM

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At least 50 Shades has been useful for something.

Perhaps, but it's bloody expensive toilet paper.

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