igor2003
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u I have,and always will be very vocal about how I feel about guns,and the pervasive "gun culture" in this country. Well now we have little children to bury in Newton Conn. and I have had it. In my opinion anyone who has ever argued a pro gun position,anyone who has ever taken a stance against reasonable gun control legislation,anyone who has ever used the bullshit "slippery slope" argument has blood on their hands. The blood of children. Now many of you are going to blast me for this ,I just might lose some "friends" here for posting this. I don't fucking care,we in this country have for far too long embraced the mayhem,we have suffered the tragedy's and we have buried the dead All at the alter of a few words written 200 years ago. It's time for the madness to stop,actually way past time. These were legally held guns in Newton. Yes, they were legally purchased and owned, but NOT by the shooter. A teacher,an elderly woman thought she needed to own three weapons one of them a semi-automatic assault rifle? What does her age, sex, or occupation have to do with anything. Also..."elderly"? Her oldest son was 24, I believe, and that would likely put her age at 45-50...possibly even younger. But no matter her age, it is irrelivent. Her reasons for owning the weapons were her own. You could also ask why someone needs a car that will go 200 mph. There may not be any "common sense" reason for it. But in spite of the fact that a car like that guzzles gas and creates a public risk when mis-used, they are legal. But wait a minute! When one of these tempting public nuisances is stolen and taken for a high speed joy ride and someone dies because of it, do we blame the car owner for owning the car in the first place? Of course not. If this kid in Connecticut had taken his mother's car and crashed it through the wall of the school, killing and maiming kids, would you then be finding fault with the mother for owning the car? Of course not. Would you then be calling her irresponsible? Of course not. But, oh my God...SHE LEGALLY OWNED GUNS! Now I guess she is the devil's spawn! Is she who the NRA is referring to when they talk about "responsible gun owners"? Is she the poster child for the right to bear arms ? This is nothing but "knee jerk" rhetoric. Well she is dead today and we can't ask her why she needed such weapons.....she is dead as a result of owning such weapons Wrong...she is dead because her son decided to kill her. A few weeks ago a man in Wyoming killed his father, his father's girlfriend, and himself, using a bow and arrows and a knife. A few years ago a man in north Idaho killed a family by bludgeoning them to death with a hammer. Not long ago a woman in, I believe it was Las Vegas, had caught her husband cheating and ran over him with her car...twice. This kid in Connecticut didn't kill his mother BECAUSE she had guns. Had the guns not been there he could have easily found other means to use....and 20 little children are dead because she owned,legally,such weapons. Again, the guns were NOT legally owned by the killer, and the fact that the mother owned guns is NOT the reason the kids are dead. They are dead because this kid decided to go on a rampage. Now all of you pro gun folks can come here and blast the shit out of me...I don't fucking care ! I'm going out today for a long walk,Monday I will be on the net seeking out whatever groups here in my area who are trying to do something about guns,I will find them and I will ask how I can help...because bitching about it on a lap top just doesn't cut it anymore,I figure there is blood on my hands too,cause I never did nothing more than bitch. 20 children are dead today.....how long before the next tragedy ? Yes, I am pro-gun when it comes to legal and responsible ownership. I agree that this was a tragedy, and that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. But knee jerk reactions like yours are not going to "solve" anything. All that your vitriol is going to accomplish is to get the hackles up of people that are pro-gun and make them just that much more likely to fight against anything you might suggest or try to accomplish regardless of whether what you have to say has any merit or not.
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