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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

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Were people being warned, then pulled, or just pulled? It does make a difference, for the poster and the other readers, to know they have the luxury of a warning instead of just getting yanked. It would be educational, too, as people would see the warning and can learn from it. (Also removes that "but I didn't know!!!" factor.)

There's a current thread on which three mod warnings were given yet people continue to post off topic. Mods often give warnings on threads. However, receiving one gold letter for one issue is not a big deal.

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Now that I think of it, there's the matter of hijacking versus common thread drift.

AFAIK, thread drift has always been ok conceptually, but it's possible (I have no concrete examples of this) that what one person sees as normal drift another views as a hijack.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

25 threads were locked. 9 came from the same individual poster. To steal a line from one of my all time favorite movies (please forgive any errors in quoting from memory);

What we got here is, failure to communicate. Some men, you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week. Which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

I'd prefer to see an issue as large as gun control discussed from many angles. I'd prefer it not be discussed with hit and run rock throwing, and in such chaos that any hope of continuity is destroyed. We are where we are.

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If you can say, what kind of follow-up was there to the warnings handed out on the thread you mentioned?

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

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If you can say, what kind of follow-up was there to the warnings handed out on the thread you mentioned?

Supper time

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ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

Being completely honest, I do not believe that CM will turn around again (not can not, but will not).

That, for me, mainly, leaves the question of where to migrate, as though to stay in touch with those posters whose opinions and viewpoints I have valued over time.

Or, less wordy: Where y'all heading to?

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

This is an excellent point which I am bringing to VAA's attention.

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I shall address a number of your other points off line later.

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Appreciated, thank you!

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Shall we have a conversation about this? One thread per topic per poster per day is way too restrictive and unlimited threads per poster at times like this generates many member complaints. So where does the answer lie?

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Regarding Moderation.

Up to 12 months ago, things went nicely. Something changed last December. Since then, we've had periods of shit and we've had periods of OK. The problem is that a lot of folks are posting with that little "yellow letter fear" in the back of their heads instead of saying what they think.
Sometimes, it gets better for a month or 2 but always comes back.
Seriously folks. This isnt day care.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
Thank you. As I said, I did not intend it to be an excuse, but it may be a partial explanation :)

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As to the gun control issue, I will confess, I have not read them, and made my decision when approached about consolidating the threads because I was under the impression ( I am sure due to a misunderstanding on my part) that consolidation was what the majority of posters wanted. In the next day or so, I will be looking at the consolidated thread versus the locked ones, and seeing what can be done to break them back out, without losing any fluidity of responses.

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As to the individuals being held more responsible than the collective, I am in total agreement with that, and intend to pay more attention to warnings when given to individuals and whether they are heeded or not, and proper actions if they are not. I will also try to review more of the pulled posts and threads, as I was able to do in the past. The site is growing by leaps and bounds, and I want to see collarchat grow with it. As other areas grow, so do the supervisory responsibilities involved. I am not griping, or trying to make excuses, but will admit that there are other areas that had more of my attention recently, and plan to shift a large portion of that time to the forums. My apologies if anyone feels they have been shortchanged on a removal or letter they feel should have been reviewed. I will try to correct that.

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I have not read the rest of this thread more than a few posts past this remark quoted but wanted to let you know my thoughts when I saw it.

Happy Holidays, no matter which ones you may observe!

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi
there are currently no guidelines about the number of threads a poster can start about one related topic per [time period]

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi
Shall we have a conversation about this? One thread per topic per poster per day is way too restrictive and unlimited threads per poster at times like this generates many member complaints. So where does the answer lie?

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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As to the gun control issue, I will confess, I have not read them, and made my decision when approached about consolidating the threads because I was under the impression ( I am sure due to a misunderstanding on my part) that consolidation was what the majority of posters wanted. In the next day or so, I will be looking at the consolidated thread versus the locked ones, and seeing what can be done to break them back out, without losing any fluidity of responses.

This is just one person's opinion but I am reminded of the old adage of 'you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube'. What you have here is the equivalent to going into at least a half a dozen different rooms where people were talking about various facets of a topic, telling them to hush, or if they still wanted to talk, move themselves to another, singular room. Now people have a flow in that unique room. The better option is to allow the conversation there to continue, rather than try to move people back to where they left off with before they were shut down. Not very much unlike unlocking the thread that was closed for four weeks. Yes, it's great that it's unlocked now. At the same time, it must be noticed that it is buried on page five of the General Discussion board where no one will see it unless it gets necro'd.


SInce I am of the same opinion as you, but as administrator try to make everyone happy never said I was going to close that thread but in fact open some of the others back up so that those could post on it that wanted to. Did you post on the thread? If so, you also will have a choice on where to post. Other posters that have a different opinion on what should happen with the thread will be able to make a choice just as you will. Thank you for your input however, as I value your opinion

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As to the individuals being held more responsible than the collective, I am in total agreement with that, and intend to pay more attention to warnings when given to individuals and whether they are heeded or not, and proper actions if they are not. I will also try to review more of the pulled posts and threads, as I was able to do in the past. The site is growing by leaps and bounds, and I want to see collarchat grow with it. As other areas grow, so do the supervisory responsibilities involved. I am not griping, or trying to make excuses, but will admit that there are other areas that had more of my attention recently, and plan to shift a large portion of that time to the forums. My apologies if anyone feels they have been shortchanged on a removal or letter they feel should have been reviewed. I will try to correct that.

The effort is appreciated. As your average poster, I must say that other areas of the site must be experiencing the growth. The number of new lifestyle related topics has been rather dismal and I would have thought the threads on the Politics, et all, regarding the shootings in CT were generating a significant portion of the forum activity.

Of course, we all understand priorities. The resolution of the server errors was greatly appreciated.


Again, you are correct. If the server kept having errors, it would not do a lot of good to have more growth quickly. In addition, the huge membership fee revenue total has an effect on staff. As you know, are volunteers, and most of us on staff unfortunately have to also put in time at income producing employment. It would be nice if there was other income in our households, but most of us do not have that benefit, but have to work ourselves. Addressing the specific subject of forum membership/growth there are plans ,however, that were put on the back burner a bit but I think now has the kinks worked out of it. It is an awesome idea to increase forum posters, and there are several site members that have been waiting patiently while the kinks were ironed out, and hopefully, by, the first of the year, that plan will be unveiled.The fact they are all volunteers like the staff is awesome, because they are offering their time. As you know, unfortunately, there are those that volunteer, then don't like the policies ( I guess they thought they would be able to change them once on the inside since some because of their personalities are used to having others agree with their methods and adopt them) ,or under the veil of anonymity find they do not enjoy the same level of user likability/respect expressed as when they are under their regular nick which has its own well known reputation. Remembering that the staff are volunteers and this was the holidays, it is understandable they might put in a little less time to be with their families. As far as the lack of topics, that is up to you(the generic you) to have topics. If there is a noticeable dearth of them( and I agree) then please help by starting topics. With your knowledge, there is a wealth of topics that could be started and discussed. That would help the problem that you have acknowledged with subject matter.

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I have not read the rest of this thread more than a few posts past this remark quoted but wanted to let you know my thoughts when I saw it.

Happy Holidays, no matter which ones you may observe!

Perhaps you will have the opportunity to do so in the next few days. In the meantime, I would like to wish you and yours a happy holiday season.

THank you for your well wishes. I plan to catch up in a lot of areas, including being more visible and vocal here. Thank you for posting many suggestions for me to gain insight from and be able to respond to with suggestions how users can personally help collarchat grow. It will grow much more quickly with users like you taking the time to open topics and spread your knowledge to others.