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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 2:24:02 AM   
Aswad


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Suppose you had found out dark steven, ladyp were socks?


I wouldn't have cared one way or the other. This is a textual medium. You're no more- or less- real to me than characters on the pages of a book. The only difference is you're actually interactive. Until and unless I meet you, my impression of you is going to be that of your words. If you turn out not to be real, that doesn't diminish the interaction we've had.

If LadyPact were a sock, I would say "whee, cool sock, please stick around" and go on as before.

No idea why one would react differently.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 2:34:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Geez. Talk about the decline of CM. In the last twenty-four hours, I've been told that I'm masculine and now I'm a sock. I wonder what else I'll be during 2013.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 2:41:13 AM   
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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 5:19:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

Suppose you had found out dark steven, ladyp were socks?


I wouldn't have cared one way or the other. This is a textual medium. You're no more- or less- real to me than characters on the pages of a book. The only difference is you're actually interactive. Until and unless I meet you, my impression of you is going to be that of your words. If you turn out not to be real, that doesn't diminish the interaction we've had.

If LadyPact were a sock, I would say "whee, cool sock, please stick around" and go on as before.

No idea why one would react differently.

IWYW,
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For some people the people on here are a little more real than that. They invest more in the interactions.


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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 5:25:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

...If LadyPact were a sock, I would say "whee, cool sock, please stick around" and go on as before.

No idea why one would react differently.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



For some people the people on here are a little more real than that. They invest more in the interactions.



No idea why any one would react differently.

Pam

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 5:29:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I laughed when someone called you masculine, LadyP. I guess they didn't notice the hourglass figure below the face???

For some, calling a female masculine is supposed to be humiliating. It's akin to all the dimwits who expect fem subs to 'prove they are not a man.'

When I used to DJ, I often got some troll saying 'you're not really female' -- despite the fact I was LIVE on the radio. Others would point out that they could HEAR MY VOICE. I always got quite the chuckle over that.



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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 5:55:45 AM   
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For some people the people on here are a little more real than that. They invest more in the interactions.


I actually have invested a fair bit in the interactions— interactions with accounts on this site.

I've also invested a fair bit in several of the characters in my favorite book series.

I also know the difference between online and offline.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 6:00:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got a gob of socks for christmas, one pair of which I have named LadyPact, (and will only use on formal occasions), one pair al-Aswad, which I will wear to the sons-of-Norway banquets, and one of which I am still deciding on the nick.


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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 7:14:15 AM   
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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 7:59:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blacksword404


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

...If LadyPact were a sock, I would say "whee, cool sock, please stick around" and go on as before.

No idea why one would react differently.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



For some people the people on here are a little more real than that. They invest more in the interactions.



No idea why any one would react differently.

Pam

I for one, do not see my online interactions as interactions with "accounts" or "machines." I prefer personal conversation, and I prefer to know that the people I've emailed with, talked on the phone with, dined with, etc., are who they say they are.

I find it fascinating that people don't care if they're interacting with other people or not. This is not a criticism, just a real fascination. I recall years ago, a poster's daughter had a stroke, and we had quite a touching email exchange about it - I cared, I invested emotions, I had a genuine interest in how she was doing. Had I later learned it was all made up? Yeah I would have felt a bit betrayed. I come here for human interaction, and that's what I take away from here. On the other hand, there *was* someone on here with whom I would talk on the phone regularly. We had some great exchanges that I got a lot out of. Then POOF - her account is gone, she no longer answered phone calls, several friends contact me asking if she's ok - nada. I worry, and then just let it go since I can't do anything about it. Months and months later, she's baaaaaaaaack (for a very short stay, anyway), so hey, I guess she was ok. So I'm not so naive to think people don't play games and portray themselves contrary to who they really are. But I do still have faith in basic human interaction, so that's why I'm here.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 8:02:28 AM   
NuevaVida


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

For some people the people on here are a little more real than that. They invest more in the interactions.


I actually have invested a fair bit in the interactions— interactions with accounts on this site.

I've also invested a fair bit in several of the characters in my favorite book series.

I also know the difference between online and offline.

IWYW,
— Aswad.


Are you implying that we (those of us who don't view contacts here as fictional/"accounts" or "machines"), DON'T know the difference between online and offline? That last line seemed like an unnecessary dig, and an inaccurate implication, if so.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 8:28:19 AM   
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Updating this ancient, broke-ass forum software would be nice.


They can start by dumping that stupid crawler at the top.

Earlier in this thread I was supportive of the mods but I just made a post in a thread asking a question of another poster on the topic only to see a mod lock the thread two minutes later for some reason. Sometimes the most hotly debated topics are the most interesting. I didn't feel the thread was out of hand but it seems like it only takes a few reports from people who don't like it or who watch the discussion deviate from their viewpoint for action to take place.



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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 8:31:21 AM   
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Updating this ancient, broke-ass forum software would be nice.


They can start by dumping that stupid crawler at the top.

Earlier in this thread I was supportive of the mods but I just made a post in a thread asking a question of another poster on the topic only to see a mod lock the thread two minutes later for some reason. Sometimes the most hotly debated topics are the most interesting. I didn't feel the thread was out of hand but it seems like it only takes a few reports from people who don't like it or who watch the discussion deviate from their viewpoint for action to take place.



The problem there is we have a few people (had a few more in the past) who will start a thread with BS and then when they get called on it, they start passive-agressive trolling so they can get the thread pulled and everyone won't see what an idiot they are.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 9:18:43 AM   
Aswad


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I find it fascinating that people don't care if they're interacting with other people or not. This is not a criticism, just a real fascination.


I guess my fascination is with the idea that one can't care as much about virtual people as one does about real people.

I don't care more when people are real, I just don't care less when they're not.

That make any sense?

quote:

Are you implying that we (those of us who don't view contacts here as fictional/"accounts" or "machines"), DON'T know the difference between online and offline? That last line seemed like an unnecessary dig, and an inaccurate implication, if so.


Apologies. I see how it might come across that way. My mistake occured to me a bit too late to edit the post.

It's about different personas and their properties. A persona in a book is very limited, not even interactive. A persona on a forum is able to interact. A persona in the offline world can touch. Plants aren't very talkative. Junkies tend to be unreliable and sometimes they die unexpectedly. Online personas tend to disappear periodically and may not correspond to any offline persona.

I'm currently sinking time and money into a project for someone on here, for free; someone I've never met, or even spoken to.

That's cuz I have room in my heart for accounts, too, without losing sight of the inherent limitations of an account.

A person is a pretty abstract idea to me, and they come in different varieties.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 9:38:12 AM   
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I guess my fascination is with the idea that one can't care as much about virtual people as one does about real people.

I don't care more when people are real, I just don't care less when they're not.

That make any sense?


Yes, it makes sense, and I see your point. I'm not sure I see it in terms of more or less; just different. For example, when my "poofed" friend vanished, I was concerned at first, but then ultimately reminded myself that she may have been full of crap all along - since we never met, I wouldn't really know. When I saw everyone cheering her return months later, I rolled my eyes and thought "Oh brother." Sure I was disappointed in the situation, but I moved on quickly.

But then I do that with real-time people, too. I've had friendships end and I just move forward and leave them in the past. Disappointed, but I get over it pretty quickly.

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Apologies. I see how it might come across that way. My mistake occured to me a bit too late to edit the post.


Thanks, and accepted.

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It's about different personas and their properties. A persona in a book is very limited, not even interactive. A persona on a forum is able to interact. A persona in the offline world can touch. Plants aren't very talkative. Junkies tend to be unreliable and sometimes they die unexpectedly. Online personas tend to disappear periodically and may not correspond to any offline persona.

I think I see your point, although I think a lot of real-time people present personas which aren't truthful, too. Obviously in-person friendships are much more enriched than online, but - for me, personally - I do consider those I interact with online to be people, and try to show just as much compassion for them as I would if they were sitting across a table from me.

As for book personas, those aren't two-way interactions for me, so they're just characters created to entertain me for awhile. Much different than people I interact with. Same with plants - they have their purpose, but there isn't two way interaction. Online, there's interaction. Even if it's interaction that may poof away, or may lie, etc., I still see it as human contact. I understand others see things differently, and I'm not trying to argue who's wrong or right here - I guess my eyes were a bit opened to learn how others view these interactions.

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I'm currently sinking time and money into a project for someone on here, for free; someone I've never met, or even spoken to.

That's cuz I have room in my heart for accounts, too, without losing sight of the inherent limitations of an account.

A person is a pretty abstract idea to me, and they come in different varieties.

IWYW,
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It just seems so cold to me to consider each other as accounts, but that's my own perspective. I remember years ago, when I once expressed my entire music collection was stolen (about 800 CDs at the time) and how upset I was to lose something so dear to me, one of our fellow posters emailed me and asked for my home address. Some time later I received a package in the mail, consisting of 10 CDs comprised of compilations of all of his favorite music. I was so touched by that. It's something I'll always be grateful for. I do not consider that person an "account," even though we've never met. I thought that was a loving, caring thing to do, and to think of him as anything other than a really cool person would feel insulting to me.

Thanks for explaining where you're coming from - this is an education for me.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 10:35:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		well dispite what we all keep telling the mods they just don't care about what we have to say. the delicate hearts of others are still being pandered to. apparently they can act a certain way but you can't tell them that  

seriously mods this over moderation malarky is becoming more and more pathetic. have you never thought that maybe it's that persons actions you should be moderating, and not the people that call them out on it?

we are adults you know. in real life if someone acts a certain way i can tell them that. if they don't want to hear it they can always adjust their behaviour. it should work that way on here too. it's an adult site, we are all big enough to deal with what others say.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 10:40:37 AM   
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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 10:42:59 AM   
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well dispite what we all keep telling the mods they just don't care about what we have to say. the delicate hearts of others are still being pandered to. apparently they can act a certain way but you can't tell them that  

seriously mods this over moderation malarky is becoming more and more pathetic. have you never thought that maybe it's that persons actions you should be moderating, and not the people that call them out on it?

we are adults you know. in real life if someone acts a certain way i can tell them that. if they don't want to hear it they can always adjust their behaviour. it should work that way on here too. it's an adult site, we are all big enough to deal with what others say.

needles


Oh well......we can always start playing with Barbie pink, fur lined, plastic hand cuffs and rabbit fur floggers....

Bring in Koolaide and Rice Krispy treats.

Provide nap mats.

Read 50 Shades of Grey at story time.


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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 11:22:31 AM   
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have you never thought that maybe it's that persons actions you should be moderating, and not the people that call them out on it?


Please use the Report Post feature on this side or the various Report buttons on the other side.

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RE: The decline of collarme - 1/2/2013 11:44:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		or people could just accept that they are on an ADULT site and that if they choose to act like a douch they will be called out on in. just like in real life. if someone doesn't like their crappy behaviour being noted to them they do have the ability to change their own behaviour. there is a difference between attacking someone personally, and telling them they are acting a certain way. moderators can also use their own judgement as to what is a personal attack, and what is just a comment on really poor behaviour. the behaviour is something the person has a choice about.

not all of us want to hit the report button. i mean how the hell do we all manage in real life without that button to hit everytime someone acts in such a manner?

the people in this site having been saying constantly that moderation is way over the top at the moment. this last lot of moderation is a prime example of it.

edited to add a couple of stray words

needles

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