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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 6:56:32 AM

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My memory isn't questionable at all. A report by Israel itself said two thirds of Arabs who left Israel were ethnically cleansed by Jewish forces in 1948 though not under direct command of the Jewish leadership.

A report from the State of Israel itself bout the Palestinian exodus confirming ethnic cleansing of 2/3rds of da populace? I doubt it but if true post a link to it (and from a reputable source bud - not your info clearing house BS) an' I'll read it.

Why should I suppliment your ignorance with my time when you will come right back with soime other idiotic statement. That report must be linked to Collarme threads ten times but still Israeli apoligists keep asking for it.

ROFL, I read CM P&R a lot and I have never seen it. Clearly it duzn't exist and you 'ave been a caught wit da proverbial hand in da cookie jar...

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 7:14:09 AM

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My memory isn't questionable at all. A report by Israel itself said two thirds of Arabs who left Israel were ethnically cleansed by Jewish forces in 1948 though not under direct command of the Jewish leadership.

A report from the State of Israel itself bout the Palestinian exodus confirming ethnic cleansing of 2/3rds of da populace? I doubt it but if true post a link to it (and from a reputable source bud - not your info clearing house BS) an' I'll read it.

Why should I suppliment your ignorance with my time when you will come right back with soime other idiotic statement. That report must be linked to Collarme threads ten times but still Israeli apoligists keep asking for it.

ROFL, I read CM P&R a lot and I have never seen it. Clearly it duzn't exist and you 'ave been a caught wit da proverbial hand in da cookie jar...

I'll tell you why the Israeli report exists because unlike what you think it is, it is not so much an admission of guilt but a claim that the Jewish leadership didn't order the ethnic cleansing because for them to do so would be a war crime. The Israeli leadership admitted ethnic cleansing happened, they can hardly deny it since 750,000 arabs were expelled. The Isaeli government claim it was Jewish forces acting without orders. The report was an attempt to exonnerate the Jewish leadership, not incriminate it.

The Arabs claim the ethnic cleansing WAS ORDERED by the Jewish leadership and point to Ben Gurion's statements where he clearly says ethnic cleansing was desirable.

Quit your jibber jabber and provide a source for da report as I have been a requestin' an a requestin...

Loadsa Ben Gurion statements have been falsified as happened when Ilan Pappé's were faked or couldn't be sourced.

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 7:18:53 AM

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Loadsa Ben Gurion statements have been falsified as happened when Ilan Pappé's were faked or couldn't be sourced.

Put your head down the toilet and pull the flush because the Gurion statement on the ethnic cleansing is widely available in Zionist writings which was widely published by the Zionists themselves.

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 7:26:14 AM

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Loadsa Ben Gurion statements have been falsified as happened when Ilan Pappé's were faked or couldn't be sourced.

Put your head down the toilet and pull the flush because the Gurion statement on the ethnic cleansing is widely available in Zionist writings which was widely published by the Zionists themselves.

Loadsa Gurion quotes are disputed and some falsified http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=2219

I'm still a waitin' for dat Israeli Report on da Palestinian exodus. If you need an edukatshion on a how to post a link then lemme know.

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 11:16:22 AM

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 11:59:05 AM

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Loadsa Gurion quotes are disputed and some falsified http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=2219

ROFL!!!!!!! You are quoting from a pro-Israeli mouth piece. That site is joke, it's propaganda. Laughable.

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 1:23:15 PM

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Loadsa Gurion quotes are disputed and some falsified http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=2219

ROFL!!!!!!! You are quoting from a pro-Israeli mouth piece. That site is joke, it's propaganda. Laughable.

Well bud it always uses good alternative sources for claims in all its works I read. It forces da mainstream media (NYT etc) to correct inaccuracies, and here it pushed an academic publication supportin' Palestinians to amend historian Ilan Pappé's work. Do ya thunk they would've made changes if da claims wuz untrue? ROFL (or maybe jus' a LOL) back at ya!

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 1:57:15 PM

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Loadsa Gurion quotes are disputed and some falsified http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=2219

ROFL!!!!!!! You are quoting from a pro-Israeli mouth piece. That site is joke, it's propaganda. Laughable.

Well bud it always uses good alternative sources for claims in all its works I read. It forces da mainstream media (NYT etc) to correct inaccuracies, and here it pushed an academic publication supportin' Palestinians to amend historian Ilan Pappé's work. Do ya thunk they would've made changes if da claims wuz untrue? ROFL (or maybe jus' a LOL) back at ya!

That site is so seriously pro-Israel it might as well be written by the Israeli ministry of information but there you go, it is an American site and America is so pro-Israel, it is an Israeli lapdog so there is no surprise at the bias.

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RE: U.S. Strategic Interests - 1/17/2013 2:28:33 PM

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News Flash: Jews Are 'Apes And Pigs.'

It seems only right to give this quote some context with leading Israeli quotes:

Menachem Begin "[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."

Yizak Rabin "[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat."

Moshe Dayan: "We want [Palestinian] emigration, we want a normal standard of living, we want to encourage emigration according to a selective program."

"Our American friends offer us money, arms, and advice. We take the money, we take the arms, and we decline the advice."

Yitzak Shamir "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

Ehud Barak "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"....

Ariel Sharon "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."

I guess in your world as long as someone else did it first, it's all good. We wouldn't want to hold anyone responsible for the hateful shit they say.

Perhaps the idea was that,once we go down the road of "holding people responsible" for what they say....we apply that to all folks.
Not just those on one side of a conflict ?
But I'm not sure this is what Kirata intended when he started this thread.
It's my impression that he was more interested in the U.S/Egypt strategic alliance and the utility of that,than Israel /Palestinian relations

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