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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 5:23:56 PM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 7:10:11 PM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 7:12:36 PM   
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a transgender person isn't a "man in the guise of a woman". that attitude is pretty offensive :|
What the flying moonballs are you talking about?

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 8:34:04 PM   
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I don't find the need to gravitate, thank you! lol
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... the vast majority of the time women have no fucking idea what they want.

Which is why they gravitate toward men who tell them.


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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 10:07:22 PM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/18/2013 11:59:02 PM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 8:50:50 AM   
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A WOMAN'S POEM:

Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks..
I pray he's rich and self-employed,
And when I spend, won't be annoyed..
Pull out my chair and hold my hand..
Massage my feet and help me stand.
Oh send a king to make me queen.
A man who loves to cook and clean.
I pray this man will love no other.
And relish visits with my mother.



A MAN'S POEM:

I pray for a deaf-mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
Big tits who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking.. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a shit.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:05:26 AM   
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A WOMAN'S POEM:

Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks..
I pray he's rich and self-employed,
And when I spend, won't be annoyed..
Pull out my chair and hold my hand..
Massage my feet and help me stand.
Oh send a king to make me queen.
A man who loves to cook and clean.
I pray this man will love no other.
And relish visits with my mother.



A MAN'S POEM:

I pray for a deaf-mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
Big tits who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking.. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a shit.



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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:13:46 AM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:19:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aww, Jeff, it is to us women who have met countless number of men who behave in just that way.

As I'm sure any reverse type list from a man who has met countless women who have behaved in a silly and stereotypically way would be funny, too (Trust me, I get those from the Mister from time to time and we both laugh).


Edited to fix a word

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:27:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
Aww, Jeff, it is to us women who have met countless number of men who behave in just that way.

*nods* I get it that some men behave this way. And I get it that some women find it hysterical. I've known that for 30 years or more. I'm just not particularly amused by bigotry in any of it's manifestations and I've known that for a long time too. I've long since learned that keeping such women out of my life is vastly pro-happiness for me.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:32:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some of us see it as a light hearted joke and don't take it literally. It's a way of lightening up and having fun with the male/female differences - because there ARE differences.

So, when the Mister jokes with me (and women in general) about shopping and chatting too much and taking a long time to primp and pamper, etc...I don't take it as bigotry; I laugh. Because behind the exaggerated words is an element of truth.

For evesgrden's joke, though, he'd take exception to the fishing and golfing part, and exchange it for football and...well...more football.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:34:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
Aww, Jeff, it is to us women who have met countless number of men who behave in just that way.

*nods* I get it that some men behave this way. And I get it that some women find it hysterical. I've known that for 30 years or more. I'm just not particularly amused by bigotry in any of it's manifestations and I've known that for a long time too. I've long since learned that keeping such women out of my life is vastly pro-happiness for me.


It goes both ways. I find the woman's half of the post to be annoying and I wouldn't want to be considered the type of woman that would have such high and selfish expectations of a man.

And then I decided to unclench. It was just a funny post. :)


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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:55:06 AM   
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I just happened to come across that this morning and thought "ok, toss that out there and put that topic to rest".
I should add that I hold men in VERY high regard, and in fact I actually prefer the company of men more than women. Always have. ... and I happen to be quite monogamous.

But let's face it, in general, men have different wants and needs than women do in a relationship. IN GENERAL. If you want to know what the other wants,


ASK.

Yeah I know, color me radical.

If the other person is constantly asking/nagging for something that you don't want to give then perhaps you need to consider whether you're (generic) compatible or not. If you're constantly being asked to do something you don't want, consider whether you're compatible.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 9:55:15 AM   
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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 10:16:20 AM   
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I just happened to come across that this morning and thought "ok, toss that out there and put that topic to rest".
I should add that I hold men in VERY high regard, and in fact I actually prefer the company of men more than women. Always have. ... and I happen to be quite monogamous.

But let's face it, in general, men have different wants and needs than women do in a relationship. IN GENERAL. If you want to know what the other wants,


ASK.

Yeah I know, color me radical.

If the other person is constantly asking/nagging for something that you don't want to give then perhaps you need to consider whether you're (generic) compatible or not. If you're constantly being asked to do something you don't want, consider whether you're compatible.

This post got me thinking about something I posted recently in another thread.

I'm not going to ask or expect someone to do or be anything he isn't, and I don't want to do or be anything I'm not. This is why I said with the Mister - I just want him to be him. Throughout the time we were getting to know each other, I viewed it as simply, "We're being who we are, and showing the other person who we are." From there, each of us could decide on compatibility.

So he loves football. So I *like* football but don't share the same love. Am I going to ask or expect that he not watch every game that he usually watches? Not at all. I'm going to accept this part of him, and know that when a game is on, I can see it as my time to do my own thing, if I don't want to watch, and if he isn't insisting that I sit with him and watch.

There are things about him that I don't relate to, but if I can live with them (since I don't believe in trying to change someone into something they're not), then I can accept him and live peacefully with his idiosyncrasies, just as he does with mine.

I *am* a social butterfly, and I *do* talk a lot, and I *do* like pampering and primping. If he didn't like that in someone, he'd do best to be with a woman who didn't value those things. Sure we tease each other about our idiosyncrasies, and we actually find them charming in each other. But we both recognize we are different animals who have different tastes and desires. So while we can have fun comparing them, we accept those things in each other and have fun with them.

Like, for example, when I'm spending "too much time" in the mirror tweaking my eyebrows or putting on make up, and he gripes about it, I laugh and say "Well I can always let my unibrow grow out and look like a man - is that what you want?" He laughs, smacks my ass and says "Just hurry up a bit, will ya?" and we move on.

So my WISH, by way of the OP, is for him to be himself, and to have the freedom to totally be himself, and thankfully part of that is he enjoys a good razzing about how he is. Just as I do. I wouldn't want it any other way. Thankfully, he feels the same.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 12:47:23 PM   
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But I gotta try the unibrow line,lol.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 3:51:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: evesgrden



A WOMAN'S POEM:

Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks..
I pray he's rich and self-employed,
And when I spend, won't be annoyed..
Pull out my chair and hold my hand..
Massage my feet and help me stand.
Oh send a king to make me queen.
A man who loves to cook and clean.
I pray this man will love no other.
And relish visits with my mother.



A MAN'S POEM:

I pray for a deaf-mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
Big tits who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking.. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a shit.


See, I enjoyed that for two reasons. The first stanza plays right into my knowledge that women really don't know what they want. Any woman who actually DID get the guy described would quickly realise he was either gay or otherwise completely unable to get her juices flowing.

The second stanza basically says "We're men, we like sex, prefer our women to shut up, we enjoy beer and sports. Oh, and we don't mind our poetry messy either."

It did get one thing wrong - deafness is no advantage. If she's deaf, she can't respond to commands. I'm not learning sign language just to command a blowjob, for fuck's sake. But I digress....

Without wishing to be critical about it - and for once, I'm not, this is an attempt at a pretty objective analysis - I believe Jeff's issue stems from two unhelpful viewpoints or beliefs. And I mention it, not as an attack on Jeff, but to illustrate a point.

The first is that a generic description of men somehow dismisses his own uniqueness. It doesn't. Certainly, I found the second stanza amusing and it's fair to say that it's a decent generic description of a lot of the basic drives which describe men. For many of us, this stanza describes our idea of what attributes in a woman we think will make us happy. And I find myself smiling and nodding in wry amusement.

The second is that the opinions of women on men are somehow valid in any way, shape or form. Oh, women can certainly be critical of men on an individual basis in regard to their behaviour. It's axiomatic that we judge each other in this way (although it is HIGHLY influenced by friendships, attractiveness or power), so I'm not giving anyone a free pass on that score. However the judgments of women in regards to men being men are utterly and completely invalid. Really. They have no intrinsic value whatsoever. They're just flapping their gums on these points and the smart women know it.

So, basically, I was amused because the second stanza is a nod to our basic drives and I didn't feel the sting of criticism because I really don't care. It's not serious and even if it was, why would I worry? Women stupid enough to take the second stanza at face value and feel it's somehow a valid and savage critique of the male gender are too phenomenally stupid to have opinions worth respecting.

Bottom line: Since when do the opinions of others matter so much? I'm the final arbiter of my behaviour, so it's my own standards I have to live up to. In my opinion, it should be the same for every man.

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 6:02:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never really cared about how women in general act. How one woman, the woman I focus on, acts, is another thing; which is said with whispers when she wishes to know my pleasures (and nothing said otherwise, for she already does as I wish).

By the same token, I would venture to say that men and women find me obnoxious in equal amounts.

(Wouldn't any generalizations simply address a stereotype, and not the individual?)

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RE: How do women WISH men acted - and likewise - how do... - 1/19/2013 10:01:51 PM   
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