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Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 8:40:15 AM)
not my problem the Jews want to claim semite all for their very own. Now after people have labelled me as an antisemite regardless of the distinction you forward my original argument huh? After destroying my reputation. I gave you what you wanted pal. You wanted to corner the market on semite to mean the same thing fine you got it! Oops until you find out hitler has semitic bloodlines. now you want it both fucking ways how laughable is that! I bet a lot of people want it both ways about now.

mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 9:37:59 AM)
None of which is true, as I have pointed out to you on several occasions. You live in your own little tinfoil and factless world there. There is no proof of nothing in Hitlers blood. They don't have any of it.

Switcheroo1983 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 9:47:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Alot of people have semitic blood, and it has nothing to do with religion. North africans, middle easterns are all semitic people see the word semi in there means what it means, mixed with greek, romans..........all sorts of invaders in that area come around to fucking and sucking with the locals. I'm sorry, I have to jump in (no, I am not picking a fight with you, just explaining). My Father's family is Persian (his parents are from Esfahan), and we are not Semites. Parsi is Indo-European, and "Iran" is Parsi for "Aryan" (literally "Land/Territory of The Aryan"). The Azeri, Hajamar, Banouk/Baluchis are also not Semitic. The Amazighen/Berbers, the indigenous people of North Africa, are not Semites. Arabs are Semites, as are many Lebanese (not all Lebanese, take Sabah for instance). Like I said, not picking a fight, but not all North African, Middle/Near Easterners are Semites.

Switcheroo1983 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 9:49:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Not to mention several eurpoean countries have laws passed that they are not allowed to deny it if that does not raise huge fucking red flags in someones mind what does. OK, this part I agree with you entirely. Holocaust denial laws are bogus thought-crimes. People have the right to be wrong.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:03:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 I'm sorry, I have to jump in (no, I am not picking a fight with you, just explaining). My Father's family is Persian (his parents are from Esfahan), and we are not Semites. Parsi is Indo-European, and "Iran" is Parsi for "Aryan" (literally "Land/Territory of The Aryan"). The Azeri, Hajamar, Banouk/Baluchis are also not Semitic. The Amazighen/Berbers, the indigenous people of North Africa, are not Semites. Arabs are Semites, as are many Lebanese (not all Lebanese, take Sabah for instance). Like I said, not picking a fight, but not all North African, Middle/Near Easterners are Semites. I will give you that not all middle easterners are semites, that is not what is being said, dna tests have shown hitler is semitic. That means anyone putting down hitler is antisemetic none the less as you can see some people want it both ways.

mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:07:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Alot of people have semitic blood, and it has nothing to do with religion. North africans, middle easterns are all semitic people see the word semi in there means what it means, mixed with greek, romans..........all sorts of invaders in that area come around to fucking and sucking with the locals. I'm sorry, I have to jump in (no, I am not picking a fight with you, just explaining). My Father's family is Persian (his parents are from Esfahan), and we are not Semites. Parsi is Indo-European, and "Iran" is Parsi for "Aryan" (literally "Land/Territory of The Aryan"). The Azeri, Hajamar, Banouk/Baluchis are also not Semitic. The Amazighen/Berbers, the indigenous people of North Africa, are not Semites. Arabs are Semites, as are many Lebanese (not all Lebanese, take Sabah for instance). Like I said, not picking a fight, but not all North African, Middle/Near Easterners are Semites. I hear you, and it is a distinction without a difference. I do admit that dictionarilywise, I cut a broad cloth. He is headed for strictly Jew again in his circular tinfoiling, but a Jew isn't by definition shit as far as it goes in reality. Jew is religion. There are Christian semites, there are Muslim Semites, there are Hindu semites, there are agnostic semites, there are atheistic semites. The Akkadian Persians are by dictionary definition semites. Whether you agree that is as it should be or not. It is a made up thing just like races among humans is a made up thing. The Jews are not a different people, nor a people set apart regardless of how their little god myth has caught on in alot of the world.

Switcheroo1983 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:18:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I hear you, and it is a distinction without a difference. I do admit that dictionarilywise, I cut a broad cloth. He is headed for strictly Jew again in his circular tinfoiling, but a Jew isn't by definition shit as far as it goes in reality. Jew is religion. There are Christian semites, there are Muslim Semites, there are Hindu semites, there are agnostic semites, there are atheistic semites. The Akkadian Persians are by dictionary definition semites. Whether you agree that is as it should be or not. It is a made up thing just like races among humans is a made up thing. The Jews are not a different people, nor a people set apart regardless of how their little god myth has caught on in alot of the world. Yes, most dictionaries list us as Semites. Some Persians have Semitic blood, as do some Azer, but this is due to intermarriage with Arabi (Arabs). We can be a mixed-looking bag. My Grandfather is dark-skinned with brown hair but blue eyes, while my Grandmother is very fair skinned but with black hair and brown eyes. My Father has brown skin and black hair, but his siblings are fair skinned with dark hair and blue eyes. I am "tan" but with dark features, yet one of my daughters is blond-blue lol! Genetics are funny lol. But yes, there are many Semitic Christians. The Syriac (Syriac Catholics) are Arabs. The Copts (Ethnic non-Arab Egyptian Christians) are mixed. Most of my Father's family is Muslim (I am not), yet not Semitic. I would agree, though, at least in part, that "Semite" can be seen as largely "made up" as it means "descendant of Shem", one of Noah's sons. One would have to be of the Abrahamic faiths to even believe in Noah and Shem.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:28:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Alot of people have semitic blood, and it has nothing to do with religion. North africans, middle easterns are all semitic people see the word semi in there means what it means, mixed with greek, romans..........all sorts of invaders in that area come around to fucking and sucking with the locals. I'm sorry, I have to jump in (no, I am not picking a fight with you, just explaining). My Father's family is Persian (his parents are from Esfahan), and we are not Semites. Parsi is Indo-European, and "Iran" is Parsi for "Aryan" (literally "Land/Territory of The Aryan"). The Azeri, Hajamar, Banouk/Baluchis are also not Semitic. The Amazighen/Berbers, the indigenous people of North Africa, are not Semites. Arabs are Semites, as are many Lebanese (not all Lebanese, take Sabah for instance). Like I said, not picking a fight, but not all North African, Middle/Near Easterners are Semites. I hear you, and it is a distinction without a difference. I do admit that dictionarilywise, I cut a broad cloth. He is headed for strictly Jew again in his circular tinfoiling, but a Jew isn't by definition shit as far as it goes in reality. Jew is religion. There are Christian semites, there are Muslim Semites, there are Hindu semites, there are agnostic semites, there are atheistic semites. The Akkadian Persians are by dictionary definition semites. Whether you agree that is as it should be or not. It is a made up thing just like races among humans is a made up thing. The Jews are not a different people, nor a people set apart regardless of how their little god myth has caught on in alot of the world. so now you switch your story and agree with me that semite and jew are in fact 2 different things, after everyone even in this thread yourself included did not give a flying fuck about distinctions. NOW all of a sudden knowing that hitler has semitic blood which makes you an antisemite yourself the tables turn and you want it both ways. aint gonna happen in this world. If holocaust denial is antisemitic and hitler is semitic then its your problem to change the shit pile that has been pounded up everyones asses not mine. Until then you are antisemitic by your previous arguments and the standing usage, too bad so sad rule.

mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:30:48 AM)
No I did not. No I don't. Crumple some more tinfoil, the reception will get better.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:37:58 AM)
allow me to help [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/cover.jpg[/image]

mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:39:50 AM)
It won't help you. Your kerr-dunning syndrome is preventing you from ever realizing how your tinfoiling is being wiped all over the shitter.

Switcheroo1983 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:44:07 AM)
RealOne, can I ask why you love Palestinians? I don't mean to derail even further, and if you want you can PM me.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:52:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 RealOne, can I ask why you love Palestinians? I don't mean to derail even further, and if you want you can PM me. Posters with higher cognitive powers are able to connect pallys and semites, though as you said not every pally on the planet is a semite, however most are. its not drerailed the person who wrote the op drew first blood in subsequent posts.

Switcheroo1983 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 10:56:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Posters with higher cognitive powers are able to connect pallys and semites, though as you said not every pally on the planet is a semite, however most are. I ask as I have many friends and acquaintances who are Palestinian. If you truly love the Palestinian people (I do. Wonderful people, and I don't get along well with most Arabs and I'm saying that), I could direct you to a good website (no, this isn't a trap, I mean it), as well as see if there are any "IRL" organizations in your state.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 11:31:51 AM)
sure! hit me up on the other side

Moonhead -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 11:51:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne not my problem the Jews want to claim semite all for their very own. And the beastly jews are lying about the poor nazis killing as many of them in the death camps as they did everybody else put together of course. Go find a middle eastern muslim and call them a semite, sunshine: they'll loosen your teeth for you, if you're lucky.

YN -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 11:59:34 AM)
I don't think holocaust denial is anti-Jewish, however considering the overwhelming evidence, it is a demonstration of stubborn ignorance, much like claiming the world is flat, or the sun revolves around the world. The Germans themselves fully documented their crimes, usually when a criminal admits his actions, and correctly details where the incriminating evidence can be found, normal people think he is guilty.

Moonhead -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 12:08:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: YN The Germans themselves fully documented their crimes... Actually, they didn't. They tried to hide some of thios crap, which is where some of the idiocy on display in this thread is coming from.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 1:12:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: YN I don't think holocaust denial is anti-Jewish, however considering the overwhelming evidence, it is a demonstration of stubborn ignorance, much like claiming the world is flat, or the sun revolves around the world. The Germans themselves fully documented their crimes, usually when a criminal admits his actions, and correctly details where the incriminating evidence can be found, normal people think he is guilty. its not but its their game their rules so be it, that titanic sinks just as fast either way. thats why you never heard of the swimming pools, libraries, whore houses, soccer games, and that the prisoners had camp money and could even buy beer! Those are just inconvenient details that people should not bother themselves with.

Moonhead -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/31/2013 1:29:12 PM)
Actually, until you can provide some evidence for any of them, they're not so much "details" as "unsubstantiated drivel". You'll be saying that Jew Suss was a film without an ideological axe to grind next...

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