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crazyml -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 4:10:11 AM)

Yes. It pretty much sums it up alright.

Although I'm still not entirely clear which sort of holocaust denier you are.

But the truth is, I don't give a fuck.




Moonhead -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 4:35:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
You already know that I do not do strawman challenges.

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Cap'n! The Ironicator cannae take anymore!




Lucylastic -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 4:56:03 AM)

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MissAsylum -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 5:00:32 AM)

Well if that was the case, I wouldn't be asking.

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

I've read through this thread twice, so if I still missed it, my apologies.

I'm simply curious to know if the Holocaust didn't happen (or didn't happen to the numerical extent that has been reported), exactly, what happened?







Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 5:23:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

Well if that was the case, I wouldn't be asking.

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

I've read through this thread twice, so if I still missed it, my apologies.

I'm simply curious to know if the Holocaust didn't happen (or didn't happen to the numerical extent that has been reported), exactly, what happened?






I already answered that question.

Being Jewish Hitler could have performed the human immolation sacrificial holocaust ritual using one body on his bar-b-q grill in the back yard then labelled the war event a holocaust, though that word did not get attached until the 70's.

As I said there is not upper limit to a holocaust but the lower limit is one body.


Of course today with the internet and the availability of educational resources people are having a more difficult time buying into the "death" camp idea when they see all the recreational activities provided for the prisoners and that the ss officers joined in the soccer games along with the prisoners.

It just makes it a bit more difficult to accept the probability of a "DEATH: camp.


bands theater and plays scheduled every weekend, plays re-run and prisoners trucked in from satellite camps so they dont miss them

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the foot ball roster (soccer)

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the prisoner olympic swimming pool

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the theater schedule

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lets not forget the whore house on the corner
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Not to mention the canteena where they could buy BEER!





Lucylastic -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 5:41:37 AM)

That it was an elaborate front for red cross and other " agencies" and to make the "new internees" think it was a decent place to be placed, didnt occur to you huh. or did your " tin foil hat" block out that information?
There is more evidence for that than that they were a happy place... I m guessing you think when the allies POW camps were fungrounds too huh

Fucking idiotic frame of reference there AGAIN.

WHAT A joke




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 5:52:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

That it was an elaborate front for red cross and other " agencies" and to make the "new internees" think it was a decent place to be placed, didnt occur to you huh. or did your " tin foil hat" block out that information?
There is more evidence for that than that they were a happy place... I m guessing you think when the allies POW camps were fungrounds too huh

Fucking idiotic frame of reference there AGAIN.

WHAT A joke



the allies did not put up concentration camps, eisenhauer put up death camps and eisenhower single handedly killed over a million germans.


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"God, I hate the Germans..."
(Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife in September, 1944)


nice jewish kid,oh and commander and eventually president of the US

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the americans had plenty of food shipped in yet those men starved and were out in the weather, unlike hitler where the allies bomb the shit out of the convoys that carried the food and as a result he had none to give to either the camps or the civiian population.


American soldiers that tried to throw food over the fence to the germans were severely reprimanded.

Its all a matter of record,









Lucylastic -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 5:54:02 AM)

I didnt say concentration camps, dont strawman yourself,
such a waste of time




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 6:01:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt say concentration camps, dont strawman yourself,
such a waste of time



Oh? you mean your tin foil conspiracy that the red cross acted in concert with the evil Jewish Adolf Hitler so he could trap more of his brothers and sisters for the holocaust ritual?

Yeh I am all ears, show me how that conspiracy theory of yours is supposed to work.





Lucylastic -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 6:12:09 AM)

again making up things I said
showing your un-intellectual bullshit well this morning




mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 6:33:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt say concentration camps, dont strawman yourself,
such a waste of time



Oh? you mean your tin foil conspiracy that the red cross acted in concert with the evil Jewish Adolf Hitler so he could trap more of his brothers and sisters for the holocaust ritual?

Yeh I am all ears, show me how that conspiracy theory of yours is supposed to work.




Rot Kreuz --- Hilf uns Hilfen.   You got time.   But you have nothing else going for you here on any of this.  




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 6:54:07 AM)

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MissAsylum -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 7:58:11 AM)

Ok, I'll level with you here.

Leaving my personal feelings out of this for obvious reasons (see my signature), how do you account for all the deaths?

And why the heck was the majority of the Jewish population in these prisons in the first place?




mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:03:30 AM)

Apparently Hitler jetted them off to these spas so that they could have an environment in which they could at leisure finance his plan to take over the world, right?

Jesus, Mary, and Joeseph.

Some days.........




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:24:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

Ok, I'll level with you here.

Leaving my personal feelings out of this for obvious reasons (see my signature), how do you account for all the deaths?

And why the heck was the majority of the Jewish population in these prisons in the first place?



Thats what you all want to skip over.

Its not up to ME to account for the deaths its up to anyone who makes the holocaust or genocide claim.

So if you claim it is true then you have to account for the deaths.

Thats the way things work. You make the claim you prove it.

not me.

Hitler was pissed off for the same reason and handled it the same way britain did several years senior.

Simply pointing at a pile of dead bodies does not mean it was genocide. and incidentally it is agreed by historians that the real gas chambers that were designed to be and function as gas chambers were never used on humans.

Just another one of those little irrational illogical stumbling blocks to add to the mountain of stumbling blocks already on your plate.







mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:28:29 AM)

First off, it has been proven.  You are making some claim it didnt happen, or some claim of something that while certainly ignorant and cretinous asswipe is not communicable.

You are the extraordinary claim, and the proof of your claim is at issue, it needs the credible citations, of which lo these 8 years or however long you have been on here with your same old tired shitlicking toiletswill, have yet to produce even one credible citation.




MissAsylum -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:29:23 AM)

All I asked is what happened if the holocaust did not.

That's it. Nothing fancy- no trickery.




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:38:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

First off, it has been proven.  You are making some claim it didnt happen, or some claim of something that while certainly ignorant and cretinous asswipe is not communicable.

You are the extraordinary claim, and the proof of your claim is at issue, it needs the credible citations, of which lo these 8 years or however long you have been on here with your same old tired shitlicking toiletswill, have yet to produce even one credible citation.


you are caliming that I am making the claim and that is your bullshit.

I told you I make no claim, I demand proof, pointing out your bullshit is not making a claim and once again your denial tactics fail.

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and you really should learn to read for content I went over that already with Jeff.

If you want to help him be my guest.



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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Realone

Prove that the majority of scholars or groups or whatever that began using the term antisemitic as anti Jewish were in fact Jews, or quit posting your bullshit.

In other words prove all of your statements you made in this post are true, and again, do not link to a site with clear antisemitic associations.

You wont do that because you cant, and the reason you cant is that there is no legitimate web site that proves your point.

Which proves one thing, you are Antisemitic in philosophy, your intentions are to degrade and insult the Jewish people, and that you are a bigot, racist, and a neo nazi propagandist.


You already know that I do not do strawman challenges.


By your own admission the holocaust did happen.
By your own admission holocaust denial is antisemitism.
By your own admission anyone who denies the holocaust is antisemitist.
By your own admission antisemitism is anti-jewish
By historical admission the holocaust is a sacrificial burned offering to G-D.
By historical admission the holocaust is a jewish tradition.
By your own admission hitler is jewish.
By your own admission hitler performed the holocaust.
By your own admission hitler performed the holocaust on 6 million jews.


No evidence of gassing can be found.
So materially prove that gassing occurred.
Prove each of the 6 million claimed jews of the holocaust were in fact jews.
Prove how many of the 6 million died of illness?
Prove how many of the 6 million were shot.
Prove how many of the 6 million were killed by russians.
Prove how many of the 6 million were died on retreat.
Prove how many of the 6 million died as a consequence of allied bombing.
Prove how many of the 6 million were burned (cremated).




Well, since you asked, look Here for the names of all the adult victims that died in the camps.

As for the total, it comes from the 16 miles of filing cabinets that have SS files pertaining to the camps and the SS Death squads, so no, not all of them were gassed and incinerated. Some where buried in mass graves. The Einsatzgruppen were responsible for the murders of over 1,000,000 people, and they were the first Nazi organizations to commence mass killing of Jews as an organized policy.


You trying to pass blame onto the Russians is laughable, to say the least, a desperate ploy to try and change the focus of the argument seems more to your usual play when you cant prove your "facts"

As for Russia, the Soviet Union under Stalin killed more people of various religions, ethnic origin, political beliefs, and anything else that Stalin came up with.

The difference is that Stalin did not target people in his purges on purely a religious or ethnic reason.

So, I am going to tell you this, I am not going to do your research for you, and unfortunately, the Internet Database of the SS files is not available yet.

One more question, why do you not deny the five million non Jewish victims of the Germans during the Holocaust?


Oh yeh did you really think I would not drop that immediately into a spread sheet?

well you are off to a great start. after 75 years and we end up with:

6,000,000-1122 means you have 5,998,878 to go.

of which you have only 198 at auschwitz.

at a quick glance it looks like somewhere 600 - 700 of the names are from the USSR.

WTF is up with that?

well if we take the same ratio of Einsatzgruppen deaths as supposed camp deaths that puts it around 200.

So you want to insist that it was a holocaust then I want to know when Israel is going to pay us reparations for sacrificing non-jews in their cabalistic ritual. which is also the present state as it applies to the law in this country I might add. I want to know what the fuck they think they are doing forcing their holocaust beliefs on people that have religious freedom as their organic law?

6,000,000-1122 means you have 5,998,878 to go.

see that? you got a fuck of a long way to go.

I neither deny or affirm, but it aint looking to good right now for affirm. Maybe I should take LL's advice and fly over there and turn my brain off so I can get "in the mood"? Maybe that will help.

Bottom line holocaust denial is the denial of a sacred cabbalistic jewish blood ritual.
It is impossible to know if it happened or not.
Holocaust denial has not a damn thing to do with semitism acccept that it was practiced by certain semetic tribes. Dragging all semitic tribes to that level is in fact prejudice, unless you want to narrow your definition down to a certain tribe.
This overgeneralized sweeping definitions used for holocaust and antisemite is in itself reckless and is no wonder it pisses off other semitic nations.

How would you feel if someone lumped you in by making sweeping assinine abominable despicable generalizations about everyone wearing glasses? If I were arab I would be fucking livid.

This is nothing more than:

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Neither affirm nor deny until I see BONAFIDE evidence that would stand the test of legal review.

Better get crackin! You got:

Only 5,998,878 to go
.

(and that is unproven since it looks like most (60-70%) of your list are from Russia, but WTF lets not waste our time splitting hairs)

Why do you believe in unproven speculation?











mnottertail -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:44:24 AM)

You have been given your proof.  You do not care to see it or recognize it.  You push other asswipe far flung and foolishly fatuously fuckwaddedly false. 




Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/2/2013 8:50:20 AM)

I am not the one stinking the place up with nonstop farts and belches.

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prove it.











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