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tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 8:28:10 PM)
Then justify the mass graves.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 8:48:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Then justify the mass graves. how many more times do you need that justified? typhus dysentery starvation toward the end of the war when allies wiped out the food sources. people seem to expect hitler to shit food while the americans who had plenty of food willfully starved german prisoners. [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/BelsenTyphus.jpg[/image] [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/Typhus.jpg[/image] everyones favorite baby ann frank died of typhus

jlf1961 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 9:12:16 PM)
Okay people care to explain this and the images? quote: Body Disposal at Auschwitz Perhaps no aspect of Holocaust denial is more widely disputed than the issue of body disposal at Auschwitz. Holocaust deniers argue that it was not possible to dispose of the 1.1 million killed at the camp. [1] Therefore, they claim that this many people were not killed at Auschwitz. In some sense the reason deniers focus on this issue is understandable. Deniers have never been able to explain what happened to the between five and six million Jews who were missing after World War II. The easiest way to make their case would be to show what happened to the missing. Yet, with a few failed exceptions, [2] deniers are understandably silent on the issue. Deniers had for years centered their arguments on the impossibility of using gas chambers at Auschwitz. Their "expert" was Robert Faurisson, a French literature professor. He had made a number of arguments in this area in the late 1970s and early 1980s. [3] His ideas on the gas chambers were incorporated into a report by an American death penalty consultant named Fred Leuchter. As will be shown elsewhere, Leuchter's report proves that he knew almost nothing about the Auschwitz gas chambers. It is riddled with numerous technical errors. [4] Rather, he relied on Faurisson for all of his information. According to Leuchter, he met with Faurisson before undertaking his trip to Auschwitz from whom he received information for his examination. [5] In fact, Faurisson wrote the forward to The Leuchter Report. [6] Just for the sick people who say it did not happen [image]http://rezinate.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/auschwitz-3.jpg?w=917[/image] [image]http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/pit-burning.jpg[/image] [image]local://upfiles/622970/F036CB2D093F42F88E74D6884EDA7688.jpg[/image]

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 9:18:34 PM)
Would she have died had she not been in that camp? I have already stated not all were gassed in chambers.. hell.. some were gassed in vans. There was no cause to round up Jews. There was no reason to hold them in camps.

BamaD -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 11:17:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Would she have died had she not been in that camp? I have already stated not all were gassed in chambers.. hell.. some were gassed in vans. There was no cause to round up Jews. There was no reason to hold them in camps. Reason will not convince hate

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 12:02:52 AM)
Never does, but holding one's tongue is what caused much of this problem we are debating now.

BamaD -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 12:12:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Never does, but holding one's tongue is what caused much of this problem we are debating now. I agree, this idea needs to be debuncked every time it rears it's ugly head, not to convince the haters but so that thier absurdities do not go unchallenged

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 12:34:47 AM)
I thought it was rhetorical, and a simple "yes," would suffice. Shrugs

Kirata -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 12:48:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The truth of the matter is that by denying the Holocaust, you are basically calling Jews liars, denying there history. But that's not the truth of the matter, it's only your opinion. The truth of the matter is, if someone put up a post claiming that "Jews are liars" it would be yanked, and you know it. You're just trying to shut people up. quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Collarme has decided that holocaust denial is not antisemitic, I think it is, what is your opinions? Should the TOS reflect the given world view on the subject? Now you speak for the world? Give it a break. This is still a (more or less) free country, and I am not in favor making it less of one. The site's definition of what constitutes anti-Semitism is fine. Thanks for asking. K.

Unsuper -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 1:47:38 AM)
Not even "the truth", but when a simple, non racial opinion renders you a racist, then there is something very wrong.[:@]

Zonie63 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 3:16:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Then justify the mass graves. how many more times do you need that justified? typhus dysentery starvation toward the end of the war when allies wiped out the food sources. people seem to expect hitler to shit food while the americans who had plenty of food willfully starved german prisoners. It can still be blamed on the Germans, though. Sure, Hitler couldn't shit food, but he could have surrendered two years earlier than he did. Could have saved a lot of lives. The fact that he kept on fighting even though he knew the war was lost is a greater discredit to Hitler and his regime, not the Allies who were trying to stop him. Even if everything you're saying is true, it still doesn't justify putting people into camps where they would starve or get typhus. Even setting aside the question of how they died and what the Germans' intentions might have been (whether they wanted to kill them or not), it can still be reasonably argued that the Germans were still the ones mainly responsible for the deaths in question. They're the ones who put these people in camps. They never should have done that. quote: everyones favorite baby ann frank died of typhus And why was she put into a camp in the first place? That's the question that never gets answered.

Kirata -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 3:29:07 AM)
I am not sympathetic to the views you express. My position is wholly different. Holocaust denial is a overbroad pejorative that seems to be indiscriminately slapped onto any attempt to question what happened. We are assured, instead, that the issue is settled and only an anti-Semite would dare raise the slightest quibble. Well, that's bullshit. I am no expert on the history of the period, but there is one thing about which I am absolutely certain: Where questions are forbidden, it is wise to ask questions. K.

VideoAdminChi -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/8/2013 3:59:32 AM)
FR, Locked for review

VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 12:27:47 PM)
I'm going to unlock this one. Another repeat of a downward spiral of pulled posts will get this one permanently locked also.

vincentML -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 1:03:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Then justify the mass graves. how many more times do you need that justified? typhus dysentery starvation toward the end of the war when allies wiped out the food sources. people seem to expect hitler to shit food while the americans who had plenty of food willfully starved german prisoners. [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/BelsenTyphus.jpg[/image] [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/Typhus.jpg[/image] everyones favorite baby ann frank died of typhus Wait! The sign "DUST SPREADS TYPHUS. 5 mph" is in English at a German concentration camp in Poland?!! Give me a fucking break!! [sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif]

Unsuper -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 1:48:18 PM)
There is nothing I can say about Jews that wont get my post deleted You are a blue pill in mod form

Unsuper -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 1:51:02 PM)
Hey that's interesting Look what a top Rabbi said about non Jews. Wow they are such caring people http://crownheights.info/jewish-news/29404/rabbi-ovadia-yosef-gentiles-exist-only-to-serve-jews/ Why is it that someone is allowed to accuse Palestinians of genocide on the forums, but can't accuse Israelis of the same? Mods confirmed for racist shabbos goyim

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 2:37:14 PM)
Interesting photo of the delousing. Taken at the Bergen-Belsen camp. Same as this photo Location: Bergen Belsen, Germany, Date taken: May 1945..Photographer: George Rodger http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=3918&start=220#ixzz2KRamZ1G7 Among many others. Since this whole collection also contains your photos, I am sure you wont argue with the authenticity. [image]local://upfiles/502828/7876D7B2B58547B58E80937902FAF878.jpg[/image]

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 2:38:55 PM)
quote: Explain how you got thousands of bodies at 95% water were burned in those so called "burning pits". You dont cook huh.

jlf1961 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/9/2013 3:36:41 PM)
Uh, about burning a human body? Read Recovery and Interpretation of Burned Human Remains I still cant believe that pictures of bodies being burned can be denied.

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