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tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 2:58:06 PM)
quote: pretty worthless, but then neither can you add, he would have been 20. No, 1944 he became NCO, according to him. He was born 1928. "I was called up to serve in the emergency service as an airforce medic's helper with the Wehrmacht, when I was fourteen. The official drafting, I mean registration, followed later. ... I requested a confirmation from the War Archive because the kind of malicious discussion (within the ASBO, author) - above and beyond libel - angered me. There it can be seen that I already had an NCO rank as Truppfuehrer on September 16, 1944." So, before the age of 16, he was an NCO, according to him. That isnt the only problem with his "memory"

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 2:59:26 PM)
quote: email taz she knows people who have all the numbers. I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory.

jlf1961 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 3:01:48 PM)
Gee I provided links where they are stored on microfilm, all you have to do is fill out the paperwork and pay shipping. As I have stated before, the SS records are not yet available on the internet. So the best I can do is tell you where to get them.

BamaD -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 3:21:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl This is all a case of someone believing tin foil sites, digging deeply into the topic to find obscure meanings... while totally avoiding the obvious, such as the ages. While the rest can rage on, I have spoken to people who have the numbers. Others can believe what they read. I will believe what I am told by those who were there. same here

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 3:27:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Gee I provided links where they are stored on microfilm, all you have to do is fill out the paperwork and pay shipping. As I have stated before, the SS records are not yet available on the internet. So the best I can do is tell you where to get them. not my homework to do its yours. you believe its true fine prove it. hard physical evidence scine we know that people were tortured to support a semitist zion agenda

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 3:30:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: email taz she knows people who have all the numbers. I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory. OMG no not tatoos! oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank. so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 3:45:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: pretty worthless, but then neither can you add, he would have been 20. No, 1944 he became NCO, according to him. He was born 1928. "I was called up to serve in the emergency service as an airforce medic's helper with the Wehrmacht, when I was fourteen. The official drafting, I mean registration, followed later. ... I requested a confirmation from the War Archive because the kind of malicious discussion (within the ASBO, author) - above and beyond libel - angered me. There it can be seen that I already had an NCO rank as Truppfuehrer on September 16, 1944." So, before the age of 16, he was an NCO, according to him. That isnt the only problem with his "memory" wow thats pretty good smart kid. I bet it just cracks your face to think of 10 yer olds with guns LOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Jungvolk

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 4:06:29 PM)
That link has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Keep trying. Pst.. what happened to him being "20". The fact that, according to one of his version, he was "drafted" at age 14 would have made him ineligible for the group n your link. Not to mention, they supposedly found him a very very sick child, then forced him to join the military. He accounting of his time in the military is laughable. But, you stick with those tin hats. [;)]

tazzygirl -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 4:08:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: email taz she knows people who have all the numbers. I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory. OMG no not tatoos! oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank. so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts. Never met someone with one of those "tatoos", did ya. It shows. I would rather believe a 75 year old woman than some cyber, tinfoil hat dreaming poster on the internet who has been proven wrong on numerous occasions.

Rule -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 4:16:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Document states no gassing occurred at the death camps. Concentration Camp trials confirm that gassing of prisoners Jewish and other races did occur. One document vs 56ft 11inches of microfilm, not to mention the trial records along with articles of evidence. You figure it out. I suspect that there was a change in policy: Initially the plan had been to deny that gas was used to commit genocide and to claim that all deaths had been caused by disease. So that was the aim and story of both sides before, during and shortly after the war. Then shortly after the war whomever realized that the cat was out of the bag and that the genocide could not be covered up. Whomever then decided to drop the disease-line and to support the lethal gas-line. If whomever had not done so, people would have gotten suspicious of whomever and asked them why they denied the lethal-gas truth and whether they did so because they had something to hide. Of course this change in policy would have necessitated the erasure of evidence in support of the initial plan. For the billions of non-supergenius people this change in policy is confusing, with most believing the later official story line, and a few ones like RealOne (having dug up the discarded story line) being convinced that the later official story line is false. Clearly, from my perspective as a supergenius, all nearly seven billion of you are mentally handicapped.

focalss -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 4:19:26 PM)
This person wants to post lies and forgeries to get attention for himself. I won't play his game and I advise everyone else to ignore him.

jlf1961 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 4:20:53 PM)
Actually real one, the names of those who died during the holocaust are available in many places, such as the various holocaust museums. However, lets look at this another way. Before WW2 in Europe, there were 9.5-9.6 million Jews living in Europe. After the war, it was approximately 3.5 million. Then there is the other 5 million men, women and children of Polish, Russian, Gypsy, Slav, and other ethnic groups that vanished during the war. Here are some facts: These people did not physically leave Europe during the war. And you seem to be insisting that the missing people died of typhus. That would mean that one of the worst epidemics of the 20th century was limited to those people kept in the alleged Nazi death camps, and miraculously did not spread to the general population of Europe. I have yet to see you provide a good explanation of how 11 million people disappeared in Nazi controlled Europe. Oh, and the records are available, you just refuse to admit the facts. You prefer to believe the nonsense and unverifiable claims of people that have one agenda, the persecution of the Jews and other races they consider inferior. You have continuously refused to accept what does not fit with your agenda. When you cant use links that are directed toward antisemitic websites, you refuse to accept proof when presented, yet you cannot provide proof without going to a raciest website. None of your proof would be accepted in the academic world, and you insist on posting "facts" that have no supporting evidence.

LafayetteLady -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 5:41:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: email taz she knows people who have all the numbers. I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory. OMG no not tatoos! oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank. so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts. Tattoos were only done in Auschwitz as a matter of history. The one thing you have said that is true, is that the Germans strived to keep meticulous records. However, that was not the case towards the end; they simply couldn't keep up. In any case, originally, they took what we currently refer to as "mug shots." Three pictures, frontal and each profile side. Problem is that because of the conditions and the shootings, they quickly realized that when these people died, their facial characteristics had changed so much, they couldn't identify them by photographs. Photographing was also seen as being too expensive. So they switched to the tattoos. It was more cost effective, and it allowed them to identify the dead better. As for the pain and suffering of a tattoo, that is something that even small children had to go through, and yes, for a child, having someone take away your identity like that is extremely painful, and extremely traumatic. But of course, you no doubt have some flippant reason to dispute this as well. And neither Germany or Austria have been involved in telling people what religion they could practice before or after the Third Reich. The bullshit you are spouting can't be backed up. I gave you the exact article of the German Constitution to back up my statement. Or is the German Constitution fake as well? Holocaust, genocide, slaughter and massacre can all be seen as synonyms. Evakuieren and auszurotten are not synonyms, in either the German language or English. Considering you don't speak German, haven't been to Germany, have never seen a concentration camp or anything else other than on the internet....yea, you are wearing some serious tin foil on your head that blocks rational thought.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 6:21:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl That link has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Keep trying. Pst.. what happened to him being "20". The fact that, according to one of his version, he was "drafted" at age 14 would have made him ineligible for the group n your link. Not to mention, they supposedly found him a very very sick child, then forced him to join the military. He accounting of his time in the military is laughable. But, you stick with those tin hats. [;)] pst nothing happened to it. then there should be court records that prove he was not who he said he was as a matter of record, OOOOPSIE there isnt. Just some pro jewish foundation building strawmen. Hess's testimony was all known to be false yet it stood how can you continue acceptting that knowing they were all lies?

LafayetteLady -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 6:33:05 PM)
The guy he testified for was convicted partially due to the lack of credibility of Lachout. Certainly, since you claim to be an attorney, that isn't a difficult concept to understand. Someone whose credibility is worthless is not likely telling the truth.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 6:38:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: email taz she knows people who have all the numbers. I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory. OMG no not tatoos! oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank. so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts. Tattoos were only done in Auschwitz as a matter of history. The one thing you have said that is true, is that the Germans strived to keep meticulous records. However, that was not the case towards the end; they simply couldn't keep up. yeh accrding to Jeff they burned the other 20 miles of records in all the camps but only on the polish side. dont you think that is odd. In any case, originally, they took what we currently refer to as "mug shots." Three pictures, frontal and each profile side. Problem is that because of the conditions and the shootings, they quickly realized that when these people died, their facial characteristics had changed so much, they couldn't identify them by photographs. Photographing was also seen as being too expensive. So they switched to the tattoos. It was more cost effective, and it allowed them to identify the dead better. As for the pain and suffering of a tattoo, that is something that even small children had to go through, and yes, for a child, having someone take away your identity like that is extremely painful, and extremely traumatic. HAHAHAH and I am sure you have the testimony of all these tattooed children who have tatoo nightmares, damn you reach to any fucking depths of drama dont you But of course, you no doubt have some flippant reason to dispute this as well. aside from your personal comedy, well I suppose I could think of something And neither Germany or Austria have been involved in telling people what religion they could practice before or after the Third Reich. The bullshit you are spouting can't be backed up. I gave you the exact article of the German Constitution to back up my statement. Or is the German Constitution fake as well? its done by passing law you see that is how big countries do it. they dont say write a note on every corner saying you cannot practice your religion how over the top laughable is that. they pass a law that says you have to accept the jewish ritual mowlah sacrifice as a fact Holocaust, genocide, slaughter and massacre can all be seen as synonyms. Evakuieren and auszurotten are not synonyms, in either the German language or English. no they dont where the hell did you get that loony idea from? Considering you don't speak German, haven't been to Germany, have never seen a concentration camp or anything else other than on the internet....yea, you are wearing some serious tin foil on your head that blocks rational thought. I do not reval saying that I do not speak german or that I have been to germany or that I have seen or not seen a camp. yet you seem to think rational thought is a pile of bodies + a creamatorium + insecticide = ,ass gassing of people, how irrational is that?

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 6:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady The guy he testified for was convicted partially due to the lack of credibility of Lachout. Certainly, since you claim to be an attorney, that isn't a difficult concept to understand. Someone whose credibility is worthless is not likely telling the truth. there is not evidence of that in the record. your conclusion or that of your pro israeli site has any basis in recorded fact.

Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 6:50:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissAsylum so let's just say there were no gassing and burning (for the big fact is that none of us were there and have a 100% solid way of knowing for sure)- if a good number of people died in these camps from poor conditions (that many people in such close quarters ), that is still a death camp. Clearly, these people were sent to die. Nobody could have been THAT oblivious to the unlivable conditions, and yet insisted on shipping more people in- in hopes things would work themselves out for the better. This is just another way to look at it if somebody doesn't care for the blatant murder version. Just my opinion looking at both sides. why would hitler waste his precious resources trucking jews all the way across the country just to exterminate them in a gas chamber instead of shooting them dead in france or the ukraine whatever? Why use the man power and the gas that there was such a shortage he had to make it from coal to cart jews thousands of miles just to gas them? Now we have the local board zionists who would try to rationalize that loonacy but its totally ridiculous, yet these people insist that is what hitler did. Hitlers resources were scarce, after all he had the whole world using their combined resources against his. How does that add up to luxurious housing? The jews declared war on hitler what was he supposed to do with them? You are the leader of a country and one of the factions within declare war on you what are you going to do sit back and say oh that ok dont shoot you in the back when you are walking down the street please? try that here in the states and see how fast they come down on you in the modern day of 2013.

jlf1961 -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 7:19:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne why would hitler waste his precious resources trucking jews all the way across the country just to exterminate them in a gas chamber instead of shooting them dead in france or the ukraine whatever? Why use the man power and the gas that there was such a shortage he had to make it from coal to cart jews thousands of miles just to gas them? Now we have the local board zionists who would try to rationalize that loonacy but its totally ridiculous, yet these people insist that is what hitler did. Hitlers resources were scarce, after all he had the whole world using their combined resources against his. How does that add up to luxurious housing? The jews declared war on hitler what was he supposed to do with them? You are the leader of a country and one of the factions within declare war on you what are you going to do sit back and say oh that ok dont shoot you in the back when I am walking down the street please? try that here in the states and see how fast they come down on you in the modern day of 2013. quote: Einsatzgruppen Einsatzgruppen (German: "task forces";[1] "deployment groups"[2] singular Einsatzgruppe; official full name Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD) were SS paramilitary death squads that were responsible for mass killings, typically by shooting. The units targeted Jews in particular, but also significant numbers of other population groups and political categories; including Gypsies, and Soviet political commissars. The Einsatzgruppen operated throughout the territory occupied by the German armed forces following the German invasions of Poland, in September 1939, and later, of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. The Einsatzgruppen carried out operations ranging from the murder of a few people to operations which lasted over two or more days, such as the massacres at Babi Yar (33,771 killed in two days) and Rumbula (25,000 killed in two days). The Einsatzgruppen were responsible for the murders of over 1,000,000 people, and they were the first Nazi organizations to commence mass killing of Jews as an organized policy. Einsatzgruppen Dont like wikipedia? Try The Einsatzgrϋppen quote: he Einsatzgruppen were special SS mobile formations tasked with carrying out the mass murder of Jews, communist functionaries, and others deemed unfit to live by the Nazis. They were first seen in action in Austria and the annexed parts of Czechoslovakia in 1938, as German forces occupied all (in the case of Austria) or certain regions (in the case of Czechoslovakia) of these countries in relatively peaceful annexations to the Reich. For the Polish campaign in 1939, Reinhard Heydrich, Chief of Reich Security, formed 6 major Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei; five of these units were attached to the advancing German army, whilst the other unit was designated for service in the Posen (Poznan) district. The total strength of the Einsatzgruppen during the Polish campaign, was approximately 2,700 men. Their prime role was the arrest of the politically unreliable, confiscation of weapons, police intelligence and actions against Jews. From 1 September to 25 October 1939, over 500 towns and villages were burned and over 16,000 people were executed by the Einsatzgruppen. Far more infamous were the Einsatzgruppen which were formed in the spring of 1941 for the campaign against Russia. Adolf Hitler issued an order that the Security Police and Security Services would assist the army in combating resistance behind the front lines. The Einsatzgruppen commanders were carefully selected by Heydrich from the best educated and most fanatical Nazis. And now there is WWII Captured German Records quote: WWII Captured German Records This series consists of copies of records which were created by the German Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo) during World War II, captured by the U.S. military, and compiled and used after the war by the International Tracing Service and later the Departmental Records Branch's Captured Records Section. They include copies of German records: camp records, transport lists, and medical data cards. The camp records include inmate cards, death lists, and strength reports. There are your lists, 323024 Documents, or 58% complete. I hope you choke on em.

LafayetteLady -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (2/7/2013 7:29:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yeh accrding to Jeff they burned the other 20 miles of records in all the camps but only on the polish side. dont you think that is odd. Not odd at all, considering all of the death camps were located in Poland. quote: HAHAHAH and I am sure you have the testimony of all these tattooed children who have tatoo nightmares, damn you reach to any fucking depths of drama dont you Ah, because there is no emotional element to do things like that to children. Says quite a bit about you. Those children from the camps had plenty of emotional trauma. All the children exposed to any of it experienced quite a bit of emotional trauma. In fact, the end of last year, I spent 32 days with a woman, who while never in the camps, was a child during WWII and she remembers quite a bit. quote: its done by passing law you see that is how big countries do it. they dont say write a note on every corner saying you cannot practice your religion how over the top laughable is that. they pass a law that says you have to accept the jewish ritual mowlah sacrifice as a fact And that is the point, only during the Third Reich, did either Germany or Austria force people into one religion. Both before and after, the LAW provided them with religious freedom. Duh. quote: Holocaust, genocide, slaughter and massacre can all be seen as synonyms. Evakuieren and auszurotten are not synonyms, in either the German language or English. no they dont where the hell did you get that loony idea from? Let's see....a thesaurus? Or are those made up as well? quote: I do not reval saying that I do not speak german or that I have been to germany or that I have seen or not seen a camp. yet you seem to think rational thought is a pile of bodies + a creamatorium + insecticide = ,ass gassing of people, how irrational is that? I think you might have meant "revealed" or more likely "recall." In any case, you were asked the question on multiple occasions. You dodged the question each time, leaving no other logical conclusion that your information is from the oh so reliable internet. I know you don't speak or understand German based on your posts and your lack of understanding of the language. I don't believe you understand rational thought at all, so the rest is just humorous.

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