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in addition, the huge student loans that most people need to take out in order to attend college also needs to be looked at. Part of the reason Americans prefer not to take low paying jobs is their debt load. This could be alleviated quite a bit if we moved more towards a system like they have in some European countries where higher education is highly subsidized by the government. If a young person didn't have a ton of debt, maybe they could envision working at a lower paying job for at least a short period of time, until something better comes along.
I agree with what you said, especially higher education being subsidized.. imo microsoft etc would not need as many H1 visas if more Americans could afford to get that education..
Well, I will be honest, part of it is a cost issue, but part of the reason we have so few Americans with appropriate training/education in science, engineering, technology is because most Americans do not want to pursue these subject areas. Walk onto any university/college campus in this country and sit in on the math, science and tech courses. You will sometimes hear a lot more foreign accents than you will American ones....and the foreign students are paying even more for the privilege of being there....
yes, I agree, but if the govt did subsidize specifically those degrees, to get the skills required for the good paying and needed jobs, then that would encourage the ones that do have the brains and talent for that, instead of getting some useless degree and end up flipping burgers.. The govt is on the hook for a lot of defaulted student loans so in that light they are already subsidizing education, just it is the wrong education.. I think part of why students choose certain education/degrees is the length of time which equates into cost and if they cant afford 4 years they divert into some lesser education that takes only 2..
It would also seem that another part of the problem exists at the levels of primary and secondary education as well. I think if students were better prepared before getting into college, they might feel better able and more confident in taking some of the tougher courses. There might be some intangible factors as well, since some families are stronger and tighter-knit than others, being there to offer more guidance and support to their children getting an education. I've seen immigrant families who are very close and stick together through thick and thin, whereas a lot of American families are pretty dysfunctional.
In other countries, the school systems are far superior, more disciplined, have longer school years, and they actively push and encourage their students to succeed. Their parents also push them and drive them to excel in their studies. Teachers are also far more respected in other cultures.
I'm going to venture a guess that in other countries "K-12" education isn't relied upon to do what ours is relied upon to do. Parental involvement and support of education is worse in the larger "city" schools than it is in the suburban schools, in general. And, in general, more money is spent per pupil in the larger city schools, and the results are generally worse. Are the teachers in city schools worse than the ones in suburban schools? I would be shocked if they were, in general. Sure, there will be teachers better than other teachers, but, in general, I would highly doubt that the teachers in higher performing school districts are that much better than those in lower performing districts. My father was an educator, so the importance of education was stressed and supported, and anything less than our best wasn't acceptable. Other than my chucklehead brother whose teenage rebellion consisted of blowing off school, the 4 of us kids did very well in school. We had the same teachers as everyone else. The income disparities were there, but not as pronounced as you would find in a city district, and since the school had a vast majority of caucasians (blacks, hispanics, asians, and Indians were less than 25% of the student population), the educational result disparities can be seen without any sort of racial lens. Parental involvement and support of education, and parents relying on themselves to actually be the parents (as opposed to relying on the schools to also provide the parenting) will improve the education of America. Teachers will not have any bullshit expectations that are near impossible to meet, and they will have a much better perception by the general public.
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There are also disparities between states and individual school districts in which some students do very well and others not so well.
Why can't companies like Microsoft train their own people? If they're really so desperate for trained employees, why can't they just gather up a bunch of raw recruits out of high school, put them into an accelerated training program, and get them up to speed so they can fill these particular openings they have?
Because you end up with kids that have a great education in programming, but are not "well-rounded." I can see them taking kids right out of college and doing that, but it's probably a lot more expensive to do that. I can't imagine them not doing it, if it would be cheaper.
(Edited to fix a formatting error. Might have to get into the habit of previewing my posts from now own, dammit.)
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