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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 6:13:26 AM   
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Get out to kink events and meetings. You had the right idea I think that if you want a real time D/s relationship to try to find a Dominant woman to be with and not try to convert something that starts vanilla...so go where the Dominant women are. I have a hunch that you present well in person. Many of the one time posting submissive men here on the boards only talk about what gets them off, and you've never come across as a leg humper- you've got the guts to come in and start topics. That's a big plus for you and puts you ahead of some men who may be better looking.

Go out there and showcase what the best part of you is, I have a feeling that it's your conversation and willingness to connect.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 6:16:34 AM   
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Get out to kink events and meetings.


Yeah. You live in Florida, which has an incredible amount of kinkgroups.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 6:24:44 AM   
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I can use some changes to my profile.I do take the advice serious and use what works and leave the rest


Charles, a few people have mentioned spelling and grammar mistakes in your profile. They do make a poor impression. I know some people find proof reading very difficult - if you do re-write your profile and you'd like someone to look it over and check the spelling and grammar I would be happy to do it for you, just let me know.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 7:17:31 AM   
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I just read the profile and was about to post the same as the quote below. Obviously depends what kind of woman you want, but plenty want someone who can write their profile in Word, spell and grammar check it and then paste it.

I'm not dominant so not relevant to me, but I would not want someone who had appeared in videos, if I were so perhaps take that out.
You say you have ADD which can make people rather hard to live with and I know it must be hard to know when to put it on a profile but perhaps leave it off the profile and mention it when you have had a few emails with someone, (plus my original points of getting a shave, losing some weight and buying a suit).
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I can use some changes to my profile.I do take the advice serious and use what works and leave the rest


Charles, a few people have mentioned spelling and grammar mistakes in your profile. They do make a poor impression. I know some people find proof reading very difficult - if you do re-write your profile and you'd like someone to look it over and check the spelling and grammar I would be happy to do it for you, just let me know.


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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 7:33:48 AM   
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Uh, so you ask a bunch of narcissists? No, looks are not paramount, it certainly helps if you are in reasonable condition, healthy, etc., but fat bald guys get laid all the time - the reciprocal of this is the eternally recurring thread: "are all submissive women fat cows"? No, but a lot of them are overweight, although otherwise healthy, and I suspect most of them hook up eventually, even if it's not with Brad Pitt.

Personality is definitely the long term key to making any relationship work, Two pretty people who both thrive on being perceived as pretty as their priority will probably get along on this basic personality similarity, until one or both of them loses their looks, the rest of us develop a sense of humor and make fun of them.

So, moping around about how unattractive you are is not attractive, women tend to be attracted to confidence, so "working on yourself" does not necessarily mean spending 4 hours a day in the gym - if there is a physical activity you enjoy, enjoy it, but pursue your interests whatever they are - nerds are rated better lovers than gym rats by women possibly because they spend less time looking in the mirror and feeling like they are doing you a favor just for the privilege of being in the same room with them, but tend to be more creative and experimental in bed, and probably better conversationalists.

i.e., no, you might not pull Angelina Jolie, if that's your goal, then you probably better hit the gym, but the whole obsession with being overweight is something of a false flag, a few narcissists grossed out by human flesh complain, so somebody comes up with a weight loss plan of some sort, the next thing you know it's multimillion dollar industry, even if more astute researchers have meantime gone back and determined carrying a few extra pounds is not that big a deal and does not really negatively affect your health to any significant degree.

If you become grossly obese due to an unhealthy lifestyle, i.e., you're a couch potato who lives on soda pop and potato chips, or ice cream by the gallon because you're fat and nobody wants to date you, then you might have issues eventually, but it's not necessarily because of the weight per se.

And this is from a guy who's been mocked for being too skinny his whole life even though I'm a healthy range for my height.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 7:44:07 AM   
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The vanilla photo was over 2 and half years ago.I have dropped probaly 30 pounds since then by walking alot,working and maybe go to the beach for a swim.Its alot easier gaining weight than it is losing weight.As far as the baldness,well frankly,unless rogaine is a cure,theres not much I can do about that.Sort of runs on the male side of my family.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 7:54:15 AM   
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Is any of that even possible in a D/S relationship.Sure,there are exceptions but is it the rule?Since it seems alot of D/S relationship seem to be based on sexual energy,after that,then what?

Two points:

A) A lot of people base relationships on a lot of things that I personally find unwise or unpalatable. What's that got to with me and MY relationship?
B) Even if you assertion is true, what makes you think that sex=appearance. I'm not particularly kinky but when I look at my kinky friends I see them choosing a kinky personality over looks.

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I mention all of this because I realize I do not have the looks or the money of a Brad Pitt.So in all honesty,how far in this lifestyle does that leave me.For every Domme out there,theres probaly 20 "subs/slaves" out there.Since someone like me has to compete with guys who clearly have much better looks and much more money than I do,the fact is someone like me can't compete with that.

In the end, the dating game is a market and if you can't compete you might as well quit. But honestly... do you really think you need to be Brad Pitt in order to get a decent woman? What sort of opinion of women do you have? What makes you think they are all so shallow and monofocus?

Look, I suspect most people, just like me, probably need to find their mate attractive. I also suspect that most people, just like me, have a ton of other qualifications they are looking for also. Personally, I find that being a genuinely decent guy carries a lot of weight in women's minds.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 8:38:42 AM   
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You see, the goodness he has found in this sweet lady has made her beautiful.



...also, his friend had explained that she has no gag reflex and can breathe through her ears.



Seriously, what kind of Reader's Digest crap was that story???

And OP, this thread? What are you trying to find out? Will women date you if you're not attractive? No. You have to be attractive...in some way. You can be attractive and poor. You can be attractive and fat. Everyone in this thread is telling you how...and you want to argue with them.

Granted, you've paid nothing for the advice...but you did solicit it. If you disagree, thank them and move on. Debating each point is NOT attractive.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 10:16:28 AM   
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I've been in a few vanilla relationships before.I never really had too much of an issue finding a girlfriend.Now finding a Domme,thats a whole other ballgame.


I don't think the question you've posed is what you're actually asking. Look around there are overweight and unattractive couples around here, so clearly it's possible.

However, that's not actually what you want to know, you want to know about F/m relationships. My understanding is that men far outnumber women when it comes to being into that kink so you're at a disadvantage right off to that. Add to that being unattractive and trying to get dates in a medium where if you're picture doesn't entice them to get to know you they likely won't ever find out about the more positive qualities. Well, I think that may add up to being kind of fucked.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 11:21:01 AM   
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Add to that being unattractive and trying to get dates in a medium where if you're picture doesn't entice them to get to know you they likely won't ever find out about the more positive qualities.

Ladies? Is that the truth?

All I can say is that there are some women on here that I'd be VERY interested in were I and they available. I've never seen a photo of either Poise or Athena but I'm here to tell you that I'd be jumping at "let's do coffee" with either of them. I thought it was us guys who were supposed to be all base and visual and whatnot.

From the flip side as a male dom I don't think there's been a photo of me up for a long time (ignoring all the way poise -- my alleged protector -- harasses me). But I find plenty of women sending me cmails asking if I have a brother/clone/whatever. And heck, I'm not even very kinky so this isn't exactly a perfect hunting ground for me.


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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 11:55:19 AM   
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Ladies? Is that the truth?
Yes. However, don't take it to mean what appears on the surface.

On the net, people discount folks for instantaneous information that wouldn't matter as much if there was a personality factor included. Those things, from what I've seen, include appearance, age, weight, most certainly writing ability, and everything that doesn't come across as 'perfect'. In many cases, all a person is getting is the opportunity to show a snap shot. The profile pic is the instant reflection of this and a close second are a person's stats. Third I would have to say would be screen name.

Which, in a case such as the OP, being lost in a sea of guys who check the submissive box is the wrong approach. Not all of these guys realize it, but they have to compete and that competition is stiff.

You have to understand. There are thousands upon thousands of them on the net. While I'm the first to admit the signal to noise ratio on the net isn't all it's cracked up to be, these guys literally have only a second or two to grab someone's attention. If they can't do it, they are kind of screwed.



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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 11:55:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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Add to that being unattractive and trying to get dates in a medium where if you're picture doesn't entice them to get
to know you they likely won't ever find out about the more positive qualities.

Ladies? Is that the truth?


I suppose if I were on the other side searching through the profiles in hopes of finding a partner, one of the things that
would draw my interest in would be a persons looks, but that wouldn't be enough for me. I prefer the whole meat and
potatoes, 2 servings of vegetables, and dessert. I'm more interested in how we can connect on an emotional level than
how good you look against my skin, or across the table from me.

Interacting here in the forum allows me a closer look at people I may not have noticed if I were just rummaging through
profiles, and I've found myself both physically and emotionally attracted, without ever knowing what they looked like.
In fact, I think so highly of Jeff that I would even allow him to put a bag over my head if he needed to!

So yes, ANY kind of relationship can work without good looks, unless it's a purely physical and incredibly shallow one.



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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:09:29 PM   
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Laziness is a disease whose worst feature is that it is not fatal.

Someone provided the ambition and initiated OP's prior photography & videos. Now you need to let that ambition, rub off on you. If it was you that provided creativity, you need to get it back. If it was a colleague, Think, "What would Sheila do."

Otherwise the L-word is a most unattractive feature in a relationship partner.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:12:30 PM   
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Add to that being unattractive and trying to get dates in a medium where if you're picture doesn't entice them to get to know you they likely won't ever find out about the more positive qualities.

Ladies? Is that the truth?



Sort of.

I think of an online dating profile as similar to a job application. It's a tiny snapshot of a person, and I'm working on the assumption that they are putting their best foot forward. I'm hoping to see the real them (as in, not ten-year-old photos or made up information) but I'm expecting them to be showing me their very best side. Just like if a prospective employee sent me a half-assed letter of enquiry and a resume full of typos, I'd think 'gosh, if they can't be bothered to make an effort for this, they surely won't make an effort during the daily grind'.

Photos are part of that in a dating profile. You should look as good as you would look on the first date - clean, well turned out, nice choice of clothes. If you present as a slob in your profile (like those awful mirror shots people have up with messy rooms in the background) then I'm going to assume you are even more of a slob in real life. If you are looking for someone to share your life with, surely it's worth making an effort? That's a pretty huge thing.

In the same way, the photos people put up say a lot about them as a person. If all your photos are you engaging in hobbies I'm going to assume you do more than sit in front of the computer - a plus. If all your photos are of your penis, I'm going to assume you think that is the best/most important part of you.

So it's not so much what the guy looks like as how he presents himself and what that says about him. Unless someone was really ugly I wouldn't pass them over based on looks but I might pass them over based on the impression I get (and of course, my 'really ugly' will be someone else's 'yummy').

On the other hand, women are spoilt for choice here. If I were looking I might have 100 guys in my area and age range, and I wouldn't have time to write to all of them. So I'll naturally pick out the ones who are most appealing and one of those criteria will be whether they look good. it's all about upping your odds.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:16:29 PM   
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In any long-term relationship (and by relationship, I mean more than a booty call) you're going to spend more time doing mundane every day things that you do having sex. Even if you have a great time having kinky sex for two hours a day, that's still only 14 hours a week. What do you fill the other six-and-a-half days with?

If you're choosing someone based only on looks and/or sexual chemistry, you're not doing yourself any favours. That works for fuck buddies, but vanilla or D/s, you need to actually like each other and have things in common to make it work. This weekend so far we've spent maybe an hour on screwing and kink. On the other hand, we've watched a movie together, done housework, been shopping, took the kids out, eaten together, talked about work and politics and video games... do you see what I'm getting at here?

I do believe some level of physical attraction is important, and sexual chemistry is important too because in my mind a good sex life is one of the signs of a happy relationship. But if you want to live D/s 24/7, or even just be in a committed relationship where you get your kink on at the weekend, you should be holding out for someone who ticks the other boxes like 'similar life goals' and 'pleasant to be with'.

To steal LittleWonder's usual line - a D/s relationship is STILL a relationship. It needs all the same components to be successful.

I don't think it is the exception to have more than looks, I think it is the rule for all lasting relationships. You've been around these boards for a while now, you must have got the impression that those of us who live it full-time have a lot more than 'ooh, hottie!' going on. And I'm sure as an adult you know that exciting sexy new relationship energy is short-lived in all relationships. Kink doesn't change that.

So you're not rich and don't have model looks? You and 99% of the population. Focus on making yourself awesome in as many ways as possible. Looks fade, money can be lost. A relationship based on that would be shallow and precarious. Are you interesting, funny, friendly, useful? Can you cook or write poetry, play the piano, mend the car, build a shed? Will you go to the theatre with me and take me camping? Will you be there to dry my tears at a funeral or join in with the silly games at Christmas? These are the kind of things which make someone appealing as a partner.



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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:28:36 PM   
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There is a reason why I brouht this topic up and its based on my own experience from a month ago.I shot a video at this Ladies house.For anyone whos shot a video,its simple,the top/bottom and camera person.The Lady I was shooting with is sort of known in the local fetish arena.When I shoot a video with a Lady,I don't expect anything other than doing a good video.Anything beyond that,is a a one on one basis.Halfway through the video,the Lady mentions to me if I would like to be Her slave.Naturally,she is attractive and I thought about the idea.I figured I would see what happens.

I didn't hear from Her for over a month and I finally got a hold of Her on Fetlife.She said after thinking about it for awhile,that I wasn't Her "type".It was quite clear to me what exactly that meant.I really would not have cared so much if it wasn't for the fact that SHE brought up the idea of me being Her slave.I am almost to the point where I am ready to just give up.If its true that the odds are stacked against me this much,then I do need to start to consider all options.My problem is that I am a nice guy and my kindness has been taken advantage of for really the last time.I know this last experience was with one girl but I've had simliar reactions from other girls too.I get it,I'm not that good looking.I can live with that.I can't live wih my emotions getting pulled all the time.I love who I am but it is sort of useless living this way alone.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:32:25 PM   
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I'm sure its possible to have a healthy,BDSM type of relationship without having looks be the final issue.
My response was going to be, of course it's possible, and you must know that.

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how common are these type of relationships?
I suppose they are as common as there are people into what ?we do, that make connections.

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In a vanilla relationship,looks were not the main reason why I would go out with someone. Personality has always been a priority for me. After the sexual fun is done in a vanilla relationship,one can still get along with their partner and maybe watch a movie,talk about life and so on.

Is any of that even possible in a D/S relationship. Sure,there are exceptions but is it the rule?Since it seems alot of D/S relationship seem to be based on sexual energy,after that,then what?
I don't imagine that attraction, and building a relationship is much different in BDSM. Except for considering someone's kink list, and the extent to which they are involved in public BDSM living, I believe it's pretty much the same. Establishing a connection, and working on the creation and maintainance of a good relationship.

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I mention all of this because I realize I do not have the looks or the money of a Brad Pitt.So in all honesty,how far in this lifestyle does that leave me.For every Domme out there,theres probaly 20 "subs/slaves" out there.Since someone like me has to compete with guys who clearly have much better looks and much more money than I do,the fact is someone like me can't compete with that.
As you've read ad nauseum here Charles, there are hundreds of thousands of men, calling themselves submissive, or slave. I'm sure they are, in their own percetion of what one is; most frequently, they are not, to many dominant women. Frankly, I think you have a better understanding, and are a step ahead, compared to the general male sub population, simply from hanging around here, and listening to us, chat and complain, lol.

The other thing you mentioned, is Barbie/Ken looks, and money. That is a non issue, since most people in the world is not like that, and we all live with, and offer what have, and who we are. Nothing more, and nothing less.

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I am almost to the point where I am ready to just give up.If its true that the odds are stacked against me this much,then I do need to start to consider all options.My problem is that I am a nice guy and my kindness has been taken advantage of for really the last time.I know this last experience was with one girl but I've had simliar reactions from other girls too.I get it,I'm not that good looking.I can live with that.I can't live wih my emotions getting pulled all the time.I love who I am but it is sort of useless living this way alone.
I'm sorry to read that you've been shot down, but it happens to everybody. It's unfortunate that you feel lonely at this point, but everyone has these moments, and they will pass. As to giving it up, I don't believe you'd be living authentically if you did. That in no way means, you couldn't find a girlfriend with dominant tendencies, introduce her to some D/S literature, and see what happens. M


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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:41:03 PM   
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Halfway through the video,the Lady mentions to me if I would like to be Her slave.Naturally,she is attractive and I thought about the idea.I figured I would see what happens.

I didn't hear from Her for over a month and I finally got a hold of Her on Fetlife.She said after thinking about it for awhile,that I wasn't Her "type".It was quite clear to me what exactly that meant.

It isn't clear to me. Your looks were good enough for her to express interest soon after meeting you in person. This sounds like 99% a personality issue to me. Did you ask for her phone number? Did you say, "Thanks so much, would you enjoy it if I took you out to dinner and miniature golf so we got to know each other better?"

If I had to guess, I'd say she cooled on the idea because you gave off a can't-do attitude.

Incidentally, miniature golf is a great date, even though it's excessively dorky. You get to see how your date handles it when you're winning, and when you're losing -- and your date gets to see how you behave in both victory and defeat. It's a great way to get a snapshot of someone's character, in my experience.

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:47:39 PM   
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I think part of the problem is people tend to look at BD/SM entirely in its kink play form, that it is entirely about being hyped up at the thought of being whipped or tied up, that a D/s or M/s relationship is some cold hearted dom/me with a new toy that they don't care about, and while it is very possible to have play relationships that are about only sex (like fuck buddies), in the end BD/SM relationships are, well, relationships. My take on it is that people place far too much importance on the BD/SM part and forget the human part, and that is where it is lacking. As others have said well on here, what attracts you to the person, sub or domme, is a lot more then that aspect of yourself; while, for example, a dom/me might be looking for a well trained sub, if they find someone who is a well trained sub, but to them is boring/needy/a SAM, or otherwise unattractive, they will likely pass on the person, where if they find someone they strike a chord with, they have a great time, converse, laugh, talk about a favorite book, how stupid a movie is, how much butter popcorn should have, whatever, then the rest is likely to flow. A sub not well trained or not at all can be trained, that aspect can be worked on, but if the basic match is there, it will work.

As a sub, that fantastic looking domme in the pvc dress might be eye candy, but if we talk and that is all she can talk about, I likely would move on, or the male of the species in his leather vest or whatever, might be as boring as dogshit. One of the hottest dommes I ever met (I was a long gone married person by then), was a woman who didn't wear fancy fetish clothing, even in play space, she was a bit what most people would consider overweight, technically wasn't gorgeous but if I wasn't attached, I would have jumped at the chance to get to know her. Wicked sense of humor, incredible empathy for people, understanding, yet one of those people you know damn well if she asked you to do something, you would do it in a flash (I think it was her eyes, striking dark blue eyes:). BTW just my opinion, but quite frankly, IME there is a lot less of the pickiness about looks in the BD/SM world, at least in my experience while there are obviously some stunning people, it just didn't strike me that with most people it didn't matter as much, I saw a lot of people, male and female, who would be considered ordinary looking, more then a few overweight, or otherwise not tv anchor level in looks, and it didn't matter much. Yep, there is that tall redhead in the leather dress type, but there also are dominant women who could be at a book club or something:)

Want to know something? You aren't bad looking at all, even in that picture, and one of the biggest turn ons for a domme is going to be self confidence. The outside world builds this image *gag* of subs being lacking self worth, doormats, but if you think about it, if you are looking for a total relationship, maybe leading to marriage or long term living together, she is still going to want someone she can be proud of, self confident, strong, and yes, able to take care of her while taking her direction, however you want to do that. Among other things,she is going to want to respect you as a person I suspect, the lowly worm domme is a thing of fiction IME, and the ones I do know that fit that are not particularly what I would call a real relationship, for a variety of reasons.


One hint, I agree with the others, clean up your profile, if you are looking for a relationship with a dominant female, then get rid of the pictures with other women, and instead of concentrating on pictures showing you in fetish positions or whatever, focus on writing the profile, talking about yourself, what you see as your interests, what you are looking for, sell yourself as a person first and sub second. Obviously listen to what the dominant women on here are writing, since they are your target audience, they are much wiser then I for obvious reasons, but I also think I can put myself in their place and that is what I would be looking for. If I was looking for a play buddy then all the laundry list of things they do, don't do, might interest me, but for a relationship, I would want a taste of the whole person.

I agree with others about getting involved, groups are a great way to meet people, unless things have changed, you can get new people attending the open meetings, so even if existing people all seem hooked up, singles do happen.

My other thought is don't leave out the possibility of finding a domme who doesn't know she is one yet, that rather then trying to find someone who already is in the world, maybe hope on finding someone outside who might want to come in. As much as it seems to be reviled, 50 shades of gray, at the very least, has gotten it somewhat out there, so potentially at the least a woman might be curious. I am speaking from personal experience with this, though we are on hiatus (have been for a number of reasons), my wife was vanilla as they come, then when I came out to her as sub, we kind of had an epiphany. It could be you will find most women aren't interested or are weirded out by it, but so what, people seem to forget that is what dating is for..you find someone you like, you date, if it works, you keep going, if you don't, you find someone else. Worse thing that can happen is you find someone you like, you a bit into it explain what you like, and either they will be intrigued or will say no...... It is kind of like buying off the shelf or making something custom, introducing someone to this can be really interesting, helping them find their level, their needs and desires, and growing together. It is a lot harder in some ways then trying to hook up with someone who is already id'ed as domme, but it also can be an incredible experience, too:)

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RE: Is a BDSM relationship possible without the looks - 2/24/2013 1:51:50 PM   
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I know it wasn't my personality because she made it clear it was my looks.She was nice about it.Who knows,maybe after talking with some friends.I mean,she really does have the body of a porn star.Plus,I think she had a boyfriend in that respect,she was looking for a slave,or so she said anyways.If I felt my personality was the issue,then I would have just looked in the mirror to fix my own problems and spare everyone hours of long conversations on this very topic.

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