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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Here is a petition.

In the Maldives, a 15 year old girl was raped and became pregnant. The thugs that run the country now want to publicly whip her (100 strokes) to punish her for being a rape victim.

I've had it with Islamic bullies and brutes torturing and maiming innocent victims. If you have too, please sign like I did.

And never CONSIDER going there. Their main source of income is tourism, so let's starve them until the bastards become civilized.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.

I beg to differ. The Catholic Church exalts Mary, the mother of Jesus as the only other perfect human being and as a model for humanity (not just women).

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You're saying that the fabrication of a Marian goddess myth assures the equal status of real women? Ha!

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

This is US-centric, but since the thread is now encompassing that:

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

The common denominator here.....is not religion or even fundies.

The common denominator here and world wide is the degradation ,abuse and neglect of women(and often their children)...........mostly at the hands of men.

There are a whole lot of females,millions, who`re thrown under the bus of life(or death) and faith has nothing to do with it.

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

It seems the United States is only a fraction "better" than the Maldives. But only a fraction better. Let us not feel "holier than thou" and "special" when we talk about other countries.

The Bible, Book of Matthew, Chapter 7, Verse 3:

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Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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And never CONSIDER going there.

That won't be necessary. They'll be coming here. Their goal is a global Islamic state.
K.

Could we stop collective blame and the collective punishment.....that is of course if we`re not willing to be collectivally blammed or collectively punished..

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Nope, we're a hell of a lot better. In the Maldives, a girl gets raped and the government punishes her brutally for it. In the US, a girl gets raped and the government punishes her rapists.

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In some of the most disturbing and sickening news of the day, New York state police have decided that a 15-year-old girl who was sexually assaulted by three boys was in fact not sexually assaulted because both she and the boys are mentally handicapped.

In May of last year, three boys attacked a 15-year-old mentally challenged student at Martin De Porres Academy, a school for students with special needs in Long Island. According to the police report, one of the boys repeatedly banged her head against the table while the other two forced her to give them oral sex and then tried to have forcible anal sex with her. In interviews with the police, the girl explained how she repeatedly said “no” and “stop” but that the boys continued to assault her. When she came home from school that day, her mother noticed that she had blood on her underwear.

But the Nassau County Police Department recently decided to drop the case after learning that the boys also had learning disabilities and mental handicaps, which apparently made the situation far too complicated for the police department.

The department’s spokesperson told the New York Daily News , “It was more of a consensual situation with their mental capabilities.”

Of course, head-banging, blood and repeated pleas to “stop” are never consensual situations--regardless of the IQ level of the attackers. But, in this case, the police department is even further off target. As the family’s lawyer explained, the girl has an IQ of about 50 points, which puts her below the cognitive functioning level to consent to sex at all.

The school meanwhile, has played its own part in attempting to cover up the case. Only weeks after the assault occurred, the school sent a letter to the police department, that read:

“The school administration request (sic) no further police action and will handle additional behavioral and social issues with traning (sic) and additional counseling.”

The school did fire the teacher who was present in the classroom during the attack.

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meeting Thursday night that was billed as a way to discuss concerns some have about the investigation into a series of alleged sexual assaults on an 11-year-old girl turned into a forum that many used to blame the girl police contend is the victim of heinous attacks.

Many who attended the meeting said they supported the group of men and boys who have been charged in the case. Supporters didn't claim that the men and boys did not have sex with the young girl; instead they blamed the girl for the way she dressed or claimed she must have lied about her age....

And finally, there's the woman who, while she's totally "not taking nobody's side," is pretty sure the 11-year-old "wanted this to happen."

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Muslim Imam Claims Women Who Don’t Wear Hijabs are “Asking to be Raped"

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Muhammad al-Arifi, a Wahhabi religious cleric, is being widely quoted on web sites like Salon as issuing a fatwa that allowed jihadists in Syria fighting the government to enter into “intercourse marriage” that has been taken as authorizing the rape of Syrian women. Al-Arifi is quoted as expressing concern that Saudis fighting with the opposition have not been with a woman in two years and must be allowed to take care of their “sexual problems.” [One supporter has insisted the fatwa was not issued].

He is further quoted as restricting the fatwa to Syrian females at least 14 years old, widowed or divorced. Al-Arifi is quoted as saying that such sexual assaults “boost[] the determination of the mujahideen in Syria and is considered a duty to enter paradise for those females who enter such marriages.”

He has been repeatedly quoted for extreme views such as instructing his followers on the proper way to beat their wives and the marriage of underaged girls.

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And never CONSIDER going there.

That won't be necessary. They'll be coming here. Their goal is a global Islamic state.

K.

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15-Year-Old Girl Raped, Police Dismiss the Case Because Victim and Attackers Have "Low IQs"

Well one thing that's different between here and the Maldives is that this is going to blow up big-time. Your link doesn't even have the whole story. It gets worse.

A mentally challenged 15-year-old girl was gang-raped beneath her desk during class — only feet away from her teachers — at an Elmont, N.Y., school, according to a lawsuit filed Friday. ~Daily News

Hopefully the family is suing the teachers personally as well as the school, and hopefully for the Moon. This place needs to be shut down. Did you notice the quote in the Alternet article?

“The school administration request (sic) no further police action and will handle additional behavioral and social issues with traning (sic) and additional counseling.”

The administrators of this fucking hell-hole masquerading as a "school" can't even compose an English sentence.

K.

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All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.

I beg to differ. The Catholic Church exalts Mary, the mother of Jesus as the only other perfect human being and as a model for humanity (not just women).

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All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.

Bullshit. You want to discuss it with my female rabbi, go ahead, because I'm not going to ask her something that stupid. Or the female pararabbinic fellow at my congregation, or the female cantor.

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ORIGINAL: Baroana

And we'll probably be discussing it over shrimp cocktails and bacon wrapped scallops.

What a joke reform Judaism is (in my own private, humble opinion, of course).

Show me any self-described "religious" person, and I'll show you someone who has cherry picked their beliefs from whatever holy text they claim to believe in.

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ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

I would guess that she was reacting to your assertion that Judaism has risen above the treatment of woman as the lesser of the sexes.

While that may be true of your temple, that is not true for your religion as a whole, it is cherry picked by your flavour of Judaism.

The same can be said for particular branches of Christianity and even Islam, while nobody would argue that the whole body of those two religions is now advocating, and living equality.

So, the statement that all three Abrahamic religions, and not only those, I might add, regard woman as inferior stands, even if your particular group has abdicated this behaviour.


You know, how would you like it if we rephrased your thread title into "Male thugs"? An argument could be made that it as valid as the generalization you have made.