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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 4:08:17 PM   
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But please DS, cases such a this do not justify generalisations about all Muslims. We don't put all Christians in the same category as the fanatics of WBC, or all Jews in the same category as the fanatics who want to impose gender segregation on suburban buses in parts of Israel, do we?.


Not all muslims are the same, sure point agreed with. There's a spectrum from my cooky friend to the genocideally insane. That said it's not a good analogy to compare a single family of christian crack pots living in a cult compound to the well supported muslim theocracies.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 4:47:48 PM   
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But please DS, cases such a this do not justify generalisations about all Muslims. We don't put all Christians in the same category as the fanatics of WBC, or all Jews in the same category as the fanatics who want to impose gender segregation on suburban buses in parts of Israel, do we?.


Not all muslims are the same, sure point agreed with. There's a spectrum from my cooky friend to the genocideally insane. That said it's not a good analogy to compare a single family of christian crack pots living in a cult compound to the well supported muslim theocracies.

Whatever view you may hold about the analogy, the principle remains valid - we shouldn't judge a billion and a half people on the basis of the statements/actions of a few of their number.

I refrain from making judgements about all male posters posting on this thread despite one or two of them being sanctimonious hypocrites responsible for some of the worst misogyny I've seen posted here*. And I am talking about posts put up in the last few days. (Please don't think this is directed at you personally GS, it isn't) That would be indefensible of me I hope you will agree.

We should extend the same courtesy and generosity of spirit to everyone - otherwise it's just a small step to misogyny, racism and all the other detestable social phobias. So no exceptions allowed.

* See for example one or two of the posts on this thread http://www.collarchat.com/m_4406472/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm#4407874

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 4:58:20 PM   
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The common denominator here.....is not religion or even fundies.

The common denominator here and world wide is the degradation ,abuse and neglect of women(and often their children)...........mostly at the hands of men.

Yep - I agree with that

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There are a whole lot of females,millions, who`re thrown under the bus of life(or death) and faith has nothing to do with it.

So how do you explain that pretty much most of these attrocities against women appear to be muslim?
It's inherent in their religious beliefs - which can't be said for a lot of other religions.
Add the extemists to the already biased anti-women culture and that's all it takes.

So I strongly disagree - faith has a lot to do with it; and one specific faith at that!








Ever been to a battered women shelter?

It`s not just Muslims or the devote that`s doing that damage.

There are Mormon cults that pretty much get way with david koresh type shit TODAY.........without a peep from law enforcement.

India is having a very rough time dealing with young women being attacked.....it`s not just Muslims doing those attacks.

In Africa,there are out-law areas with such savagery that it boggles the mind,where women(and their children)are subjected everything from perpetual rape/slavery(the bad kind)to murder,kidnapping and children forced to become soldiers.

Though I`m sure there`s examples of Muslims doing that shit......it`s being done mostly by assholes who don`t give a damm about religion.

During the war in the former Yugoslavia,the serbs pretty much killed any Muslim male of fighting age and rounded up every Muslim women they could capture,and held them in rape detention camps and would only release these woman AFTER they had been raped,many multiple times by multiple men.

The whole idea behind the systematized rape there, was to ruin them as Muslim woman.

The ass-holes who did all that, were mostly Christians.....and government sanctioned.

It in`t just the Muslim extremist who are hurting women.

Women are pretty much 2nd class citizens,especially in th 3rd world.Laws are slanted,the culture is against them........in nearly every land on earth

If someone from somewhere else read a story about "athletes rape drunk minor,most news outlets coddle the rapists" in the US.....would it be fair to say we have a culture that values sports and it`s players(sandusky) over the safety of our young women(or boys in the case of sandusky)?




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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:08:02 PM   
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Could we stop collective blame and the collective punishment...

It says this was a reply to my post, but obviously that's wrong.

Maybe if you're patient, the voice you were hearing will start again.

K.


Touchy touchy touchy......

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:18:02 PM   
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Now now Level...remember its not all Muslims...Out of the 1.6 billion its only 1.6 billion that make excuses for the millions of backward ass primitives.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:21:17 PM   
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All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.


Bullshit. You want to discuss it with my female rabbi, go ahead, because I'm not going to ask her something that stupid. Or the female pararabbinic fellow at my congregation, or the female cantor.

Are women not segregated in orthodox services? Perhaps I have it wrong. Let me hear.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:29:42 PM   
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Now now Level...remember its not all Muslims...Out of the 1.6 billion its only 1.6 billion that make excuses for the millions of backward ass primitives.

Butch


Thats nonsense Butch. You surely wouldnt accept the charge that all Catholics make excuses for the myriad of pedophile Priests.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:40:09 PM   
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Now now Level...remember its not all Muslims...Out of the 1.6 billion its only 1.6 billion that make excuses for the millions of backward ass primitives.

Butch


hey Butch; there are decent muslims, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:47:09 PM   
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All three of the Abrahamic religions relegate women to an inferior status.


Bullshit. You want to discuss it with my female rabbi, go ahead, because I'm not going to ask her something that stupid. Or the female pararabbinic fellow at my congregation, or the female cantor.

Are women not segregated in orthodox services? Perhaps I have it wrong. Let me hear.


You're correct. Orthodox services are gender segregated. That said, there aren't that many. There are more Conservative congregations and far more Reform congregations than Orthodox.


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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:53:30 PM   
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hey Butch; there are decent muslims, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.


Such a profound insight! To think that millions of years of evolution played a part in formulating this odious bit of racist crap........

You only have to change one word in this post to see how evil it is. Try replacing "muslim' with any religion/race/sexual orientation of your choice and then using a stop watch, time how long it takes you to realise precisely how repulsive and ugly it is.

If it takes you more than 5 seconds, you need to consider remedial classes...... as a matter of urgency.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 5:55:34 PM   
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It isn't racist, it's true... tough shit if you can't understand that.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:01:33 PM   
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Now now Level...remember its not all Muslims...Out of the 1.6 billion its only 1.6 billion that make excuses for the millions of backward ass primitives.

Butch

hey Butch; there are decent muslims, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.

maybe they will come into tha light in their own good time?

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:03:30 PM   
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For the sake of the girls and women that suffer at their hands, sooner would be better.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:36:01 PM   
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It isn't racist, it's true... tough shit if you can't understand that.

There are decent posters, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.

K.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:38:03 PM   
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It isn't racist, it's true... tough shit if you can't understand that.

There are decent posters, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.

K.



Love the self deprication.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:43:12 PM   
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hey Butch; there are decent muslims, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.


Such a profound insight! To think that millions of years of evolution played a part in formulating this odious bit of racist crap........

You only have to change one word in this post to see how evil it is. Try replacing "muslim' with any religion/race/sexual orientation of your choice and then using a stop watch, time how long it takes you to realise precisely how repulsive and ugly it is.

If it takes you more than 5 seconds, you need to consider remedial classes...... as a matter of urgency.


Hmm, I thought I had came up with something to replace muslim with; "athletes", but someone already used that one to try to explain brutal treatment of women, in the Steubenville thread....

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:45:27 PM   
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It isn't racist, it's true... tough shit if you can't understand that.

There are decent posters, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.

K.



They're waiting for Rachel Maddow to tell them it's okay.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:51:17 PM   
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hey Butch; there are decent muslims, but there is a significant segment of their world that needs a good kick in the ass to get them to evolve a bit more.


Such a profound insight! To think that millions of years of evolution played a part in formulating this odious bit of racist crap........

You only have to change one word in this post to see how evil it is. Try replacing "muslim' with any religion/race/sexual orientation of your choice and then using a stop watch, time how long it takes you to realise precisely how repulsive and ugly it is.

If it takes you more than 5 seconds, you need to consider remedial classes...... as a matter of urgency.
ying

Hmm, I thought I had came up with something to replace muslim with; "athletes", but someone already used that one to try to explain brutal treatment of women, in the Steubenville thread....

No need to stress your little head rationalising things, dear.

It's perfectly clear from your posts that racism is an evil you have yet to comprehend fully.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 6:55:43 PM   
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By all means, keep defending the one culture that would have no issue raping and then stoning you.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 3/23/2013 8:14:48 PM   
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I am serious Politesub...I have NEVER heard to a Muslim being interviewed in depth about the issue here or terrorism in general where there was not a "BUT" to go along with a condemnation. There should be NO buts ever.

Until enlightened Muslims stand up, stop, and condemn unequivocally the barbaric behavior of many in their religion they are all guilty in my view.

Every time the Muslim religion is criticized someone has to bring up Christianity...bull crap...we are talking about Islam...go ahead and start another thread on Christianity if you want...but lets stick to what this thread is about.

Butch

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