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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 3:43:12 PM

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Well if Adam was kicked out of the home he would be just one more of the estimated 200,000 mentally ill that are homeless in this country.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 3:57:47 PM

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Oh, I know that.. but its not just terms like that that put you in a bad light.. its that ya'll worship the dam things.. I was simply pointing out that you dont need an "arsenal" to do a hell of a lot of damage.. people that think they need more than one gun scare the poop outta me..

Oddly enough, this just came up as one of the chit chat topics at My D discussion group (not the main topic) this week.

If folks with more than one gun scare you, might I ask you a question about your view?

Are you going to use the same gun to shoot a rabbit as you are a moose?

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 3:58:19 PM

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Well if Adam was kicked out of the home he would be just one more of the estimated 200,000 mentally ill that are homeless in this country.

It could be that the reason this happened was cuz his mother was considering or planning to put him in a special school/institution and that set him off.. according to some reports there was a court thing she was doing, perhaps to get him committed.. I dont know if the cops have verified that or not.. Its easy for people to flippantly say to throw mentally ill kids/family members in institutions but actually doing that takes time & has roadblocks.. legal ones and emotional ones..

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:03:48 PM

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Well if Adam was kicked out of the home he would be just one more of the estimated 200,000 mentally ill that are homeless in this country.

It could be that the reason this happened was cuz his mother was considering or planning to put him in a special school/institution and that set him off.. according to some reports there was a court thing she was doing, perhaps to get him committed.. I dont know if the cops have verified that or not.. Its easy for people to flippantly say to throw mentally ill kids/family members in institutions but actually doing that takes time & has roadblocks.. legal ones and emotional ones..

I've seen reports that said the mother had just given Adam a present of a gun gift voucher to purchase a weapon to add to his collection. If this is true, it's difficult to square this with planning to place him in an institution.

While it's a stretch to describe either of them having a 'right mind', who in their right mind would give a mentally unstable person a gift voucher redeemable against a gun purchase?

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:04:46 PM

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No we don't worship them. We also do not conced power over us by them. they are tools,no more , no less. For me a too; to among other things, defend myself.
You ever try squill hunting with a 9mm? Or bird hunting with a rifle? Hunt a mose with a shotgun and we notify your next of ken. Your entire post proves only that you know nothing about firearms or the people who own them.

I never said there werent legit reasons to have a gun and I was referring to people that have a bunch of guns for no real reason or purpose.. few people that have more than one gun ever hunt or use them all for that.. Lanza and his mother didnt, from the reports.. so why the fuck did she have all these guns?

Yes you said more than one

.. people that think they need more than one gun scare the poop outta me..

For self defence alone the best gun to carry is not the best gun for self defense. A shotgun, two handguns, and a light easy to use rifle. That is not "all those guns" if she had had 40 or so that would be different.
Do you need a car that can go 90?
That isn't legal anywhere and it is dagerous to drive that fast both to you and to others.
Do you want to give upyour car?
Does not wanting to mean you worship your car?
Would you think that anyone who said you did was a crackpot.
Owning firearms is a right.
There is no need to justify exersizing a right.
A car is a previlege you might have to justify that.

LOL ..you are making an incorrect assumption that I own a vehicle.. I actually don't..

As far as what has been reported, she lived in a small safe idylic town and did not buy the guns for self-defense or for hunting quail or gophers or moose, so those arguements fail.. and she didnt need 40 guns.. 3 of her guns killing 26 people/children in 5 minutes did the job quite efficiently..

You don't own a car so taking away other peoples rights is ok, brilliant.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:07:05 PM

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Well if Adam was kicked out of the home he would be just one more of the estimated 200,000 mentally ill that are homeless in this country.

It could be that the reason this happened was cuz his mother was considering or planning to put him in a special school/institution and that set him off.. according to some reports there was a court thing she was doing, perhaps to get him committed.. I dont know if the cops have verified that or not.. Its easy for people to flippantly say to throw mentally ill kids/family members in institutions but actually doing that takes time & has roadblocks.. legal ones and emotional ones..

I've seen reports that said the mother had just given Adam a present of a gun gift voucher to purchase a weapon to add to his collection. If this is true, it's difficult to square this with planning to place him in an institution.

While it's a stretch to describe either of them having a 'right mind', who in their right mind would give a mentally unstable person a gift voucher redeemable against a gun purchase?

A mentally unstble person obviously should not have guns, or cars, or matches and on and on. The most important thing they should be given is help.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:08:08 PM

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Oh, I know that.. but its not just terms like that that put you in a bad light.. its that ya'll worship the dam things.. I was simply pointing out that you dont need an "arsenal" to do a hell of a lot of damage.. people that think they need more than one gun scare the poop outta me..

Oddly enough, this just came up as one of the chit chat topics at My D discussion group (not the main topic) this week.

If folks with more than one gun scare you, might I ask you a question about your view?

Are you going to use the same gun to shoot a rabbit as you are a moose?

well.. I have never seen a rabbit or moose in the city.. so I would not be shooting them.. I think that is quite frowned upon in my metro area..

I grew up on a farm and my father had one rifle.. he shot cows & pigs (the ones that ended up as packages in our freezer) and pheasants with it, sometimes other critters.. seemed to work for him..

The number of guns a person has is (imo) a reflection of your American gun culture, which is what is scary.. the mental state of the person in control of the gun(s)..

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:10:15 PM

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Well if Adam was kicked out of the home he would be just one more of the estimated 200,000 mentally ill that are homeless in this country.

It could be that the reason this happened was cuz his mother was considering or planning to put him in a special school/institution and that set him off.. according to some reports there was a court thing she was doing, perhaps to get him committed.. I dont know if the cops have verified that or not.. Its easy for people to flippantly say to throw mentally ill kids/family members in institutions but actually doing that takes time & has roadblocks.. legal ones and emotional ones..

Do you have a butcher knife, you going to sleep well with them in the kitchen and a dangerously unstable person in the house?
Did you ever hear of Ted Bundy or lizzie Borden?

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:11:30 PM

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You don't own a car so taking away other peoples rights is ok, brilliant.

is that all you can say? and twist what I actually said..

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:15:37 PM

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You don't own a car so taking away other peoples rights is ok, brilliant.

is that all you can say? and twist what I actually said..

You want to make gun owners explain why they need each gun.
You dismiss the analogy because you don't have a car.
You have no problem with taking away my rights.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:18:11 PM

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I've seen reports that said the mother had just given Adam a present of a gun gift voucher to purchase a weapon to add to his collection. If this is true, it's difficult to square this with planning to place him in an institution.

While it's a stretch to describe either of them having a 'right mind', who in their right mind would give a mentally unstable person a gift voucher redeemable against a gun purchase?

I never read anything about that, I read that he tried to buy a rifle but was turned away (cuz he wasnt old enough).. so i dont know what is the real truth about what was actually going on with the mother and son with the media flying all sorts of contradictory reports.. all I know is that a lot of innocent little kids/people are dead and families devastated by what he did..

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:20:02 PM

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Oh, I know that.. but its not just terms like that that put you in a bad light.. its that ya'll worship the dam things.. I was simply pointing out that you dont need an "arsenal" to do a hell of a lot of damage.. people that think they need more than one gun scare the poop outta me..

Oddly enough, this just came up as one of the chit chat topics at My D discussion group (not the main topic) this week.

If folks with more than one gun scare you, might I ask you a question about your view?

Are you going to use the same gun to shoot a rabbit as you are a moose?

well.. I have never seen a rabbit or moose in the city.. so I would not be shooting them.. I think that is quite frowned upon in my metro area..

I grew up on a farm and my father had one rifle.. he shot cows & pigs (the ones that ended up as packages in our freezer) and pheasants with it, sometimes other critters.. seemed to work for him..

The number of guns a person has is (imo) a reflection of your American gun culture, which is what is scary.. the mental state of the person in control of the gun(s)..

You live in the city that explains your inability to understand.
You don't hunt. that is your business.
You don't shhot targets, thats your business.
If I collect old guns, that is my business.
If I can't handle a shotgun so I get a .223 for home defense that is my business.
I won't stick my nose in your business please return the favor

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:21:54 PM

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I've seen reports that said the mother had just given Adam a present of a gun gift voucher to purchase a weapon to add to his collection. If this is true, it's difficult to square this with planning to place him in an institution.

While it's a stretch to describe either of them having a 'right mind', who in their right mind would give a mentally unstable person a gift voucher redeemable against a gun purchase?

I never read anything about that, I read that he tried to buy a rifle but was turned away (cuz he wasnt old enough).. so i dont know what is the real truth about what was actually going on with the mother and son with the media flying all sorts of contradictory reports.. all I know is that a lot of innocent little kids/people are dead and families devastated by what he did..

I was called a liar for saying he couldn't legally buy one but since you are anti gun I am sure you will get away with it.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:23:28 PM

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And he would not have had the guns.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:30:14 PM

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You want to make gun owners explain why they need each gun.
You dismiss the analogy because you don't have a car.
You have no problem with taking away my rights.

No I did not dismiss your analogy, I was pointing out you made an incorrect assumption that I own a vehicle and trying to attack me/my view based on that incorrect assumption..

I dont understand the purpose of owning some guns that are simply designed to kill as many people as fast as possible & why someone would need one (unless they were fighting in the military).. I also dont understand the purpose of a vehicle that can go 300 miles/hr (unless they were a Indy driver).. but I never said I was taking away anyones rights.. however I am entitled to my opinions (about guns, cars, whatever), am I not?

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:30:39 PM

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I've seen reports that said the mother had just given Adam a present of a gun gift voucher to purchase a weapon to add to his collection. If this is true, it's difficult to square this with planning to place him in an institution.

While it's a stretch to describe either of them having a 'right mind', who in their right mind would give a mentally unstable person a gift voucher redeemable against a gun purchase?

I never read anything about that, I read that he tried to buy a rifle but was turned away (cuz he wasnt old enough).. so i dont know what is the real truth about what was actually going on with the mother and son with the media flying all sorts of contradictory reports.. all I know is that a lot of innocent little kids/people are dead and families devastated by what he did..

I heard about Adams attempt to purchase a rifle, but I do not think he was turned down do to his age, 20, from what I have found in Connecticut there is no minium age to purchase a rifle or as it is call long gun.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 4:35:23 PM

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I was called a liar for saying he couldn't legally buy one but since you are anti gun I am sure you will get away with it.

again with the incorrect assumptions.. I dont know anything about you being called a liar.. I was simply stating what I read in one report.. I also go on to say that I have a hard time with the accuracy of all the media reports so I am not saying that report was accurate or not.. and for your biggest incorrect assumption.. I am actually not anti-gun..

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 5:05:17 PM

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well.. I have never seen a rabbit or moose in the city.. so I would not be shooting them.. I think that is quite frowned upon in my metro area..

I grew up on a farm and my father had one rifle.. he shot cows & pigs (the ones that ended up as packages in our freezer) and pheasants with it, sometimes other critters.. seemed to work for him..

The number of guns a person has is (imo) a reflection of your American gun culture, which is what is scary.. the mental state of the person in control of the gun(s)..

Thank you for taking the time to answer My question.

The gun that has the firepower to kill the moose would obliterate a rabbit. A smaller gun to kill the rabbit would leave the moose wounded and suffering in the wilderness until it bled to death.

There's a difference shooting animals in the wild than when the animal is fenced in and used to people walking up to it. Moose and bears are not the docile creatures that you find on farms. I didn't know until I moved up here, but moose charge. They are also pretty darn fast for an animal that can weigh up to 1400 lbs. You don't really have to do anything to tick it off.

I don't think I have the link from the last time I was on one of the gun threads, but when I looked it up a couple of months ago, roughly 25% of the Alaskan population hunts at least one time over a three year period. That's not including the hunting licenses that are issued to out of state visitors. Also not included are the people that go camping that need a gun for protection from wildlife. These are still good reasons to own guns.

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 6:52:28 PM

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I was responding to the claim that he had an arsenell. A term used to put thosse of us with more than one gun in a bad light.

Oh, I know that.. but its not just terms like that that put you in a bad light.. its that ya'll worship the dam things.. I was simply pointing out that you dont need an "arsenal" to do a hell of a lot of damage.. people that think they need more than one gun scare the poop outta me..

No we don't worship them. We also do not conced power over us by them. they are tools,no more , no less. For me a too; to among other things, defend myself.
You ever try squill hunting with a 9mm? Or bird hunting with a rifle? Hunt a mose with a shotgun and we notify your next of ken. Your entire post proves only that you know nothing about firearms or the people who own them.

My sister got bit by a moose...she was carving her initials in it, and it bit her..Moose bites hurt

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RE: It's Just so Scary -- Adam Lanza - 3/30/2013 6:57:45 PM

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Some on this thread think the arsenal was not part of the problem. Such a bias cannot be overcome, but right now it's this fringe bias that controls congress.

A home arsenal can't pass any kind of rational basis test.

Also, you are absolutely right about how difficult it is to commit someone to a psychiatric institution. The standard of proof is damn near impossible under certain circumstances.

There has been no proof Nancy Lanza was trying to get him committed, that report came from the son of a local preacher, and he himself said it was scuttlebutt. Put it this way, if Nancy Lanza was trying to get him committed, if she thought he was so dangerous to himself and others he needed to be put away, then what the fuck was he doing with access to guns? According to the report, the gun safe was open, and there was no sign of tampering, which means either the stupid bitch left it open, or worse, gave him the combination...and in either case, who if they are going to get someone committed is going to leave weapons around him, or let him shoot? Apparently they went shooting not long before he killed all those kids.

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