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Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:12:03 PM   
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I've been dating this guy he's 24 for about 7 months now. We've met two times, and i got accepted into a school right by him actually. I really love him, I pictured us actually getting married eventually, as we've talked about it.

He's from a different culture, met him on a kinky website, so I thought he understood D/s and BDSM. Turns out, in his culture women are just very submissive and men call the shots. At first I liked this, being submissive and all, but I noticed (and have asked him and he has also said this is true), that BDSM doesn't get him off, he doesn't know much about it, he just thinks a woman should be submissive. This bothers me in itself because I believe it's my lifestyle choice and I do it to give me gratification and I feel content because yes it's how I'm wired and it turns me on. We are coming from two different points of views.

I knew he really wanted sex, and I remember our first meeting I told him no for sure, I remember I had to talk to him for like an hour about this. Then there was the condom issue, I'm not ready for a baby,but I am on birth control. I had to talk to him for like 2 hours about how we need to do both, he eventually was okay with it. I told him if I liked him then probably the second time we could have sex .

I said this to make him happy, and I really thought I'd be ready for it. Especially after our first meeting, I really liked him and fell in love with him too. I do want to say this is partly my fault. I thought when I saw him again I'd be ready and I told him I was excited to have sex too.

So , I saw him again last weekend. We both slept because I got in super early, and then after a few hours of sleeping he got kind of aggressive and started taking off my cloths and i just said " no.. I'm not ready" like I started to freak out. He kept trying to get at it and I kept saying no, I really thought he was going to do it... eventually he stopped and I told him I just wasn't ready. So I could tell he was frusterated and he put me to my knees and made me give him a bj.. which I wasn't ready for that either.

After we talked about it and he was worried I wasn't attracted to him, I said that wasn't it at all (I am attracted to him). He said eventually after I talked to him about it for like an hour more no joke, that it was okay and we could even wait till marriage. Well, the next night we are on the couch and he makes me start to give him a hand job... I wasn't sure if he wasn't going to try to forcefully make me do a bj.. and he asked " are you not comfortable with this? " I said I don't know.. I mean ... we just talked the other day. So he let me stop.. I felt guilty then and asked him to let me give him a bj and he said " no, I'm turned off now."

I've only seen him two times. WE talk on skype for like 2 hours a night, but seriously it through me for a loop seeing him in real life, I do have feelings for him and love him very much, but I'm not sure how much more I can take. He takes care of me though, and is very sweet to me.

We were talking about it over text once I left I tried to explain to him that in order for me to want sex the man has to control my mind and do bdsm things, and he just said " well until we have sex why should i learn about bdsm?" Which made me see he doesn't get training AT ALL. He doesn't understand it and how I need my mind to be involved . If it is then I CRAVE sex. He said things like " is this temporary ? " and asked that like 3 times.. I mean fuck I've seen him TWO times, it's not fucking temporary. He then went on to explain what the difference is between a girlfriend and a girl you have as a friend only, and I explained things like connection, energy, trust, a spark, intimacy ... He said and intimacy involves sex. And, yes it does eventually (and no I'm not a virgin, but a man has to get inside my mind for me to want sex)

I asked if he was mad and he said " well i get upset i'm not happy about it and i'm a man i can't control it i'm not going to lie and say i don't want it. I want it but you're right to say no and i'll wait till your ready." And that's fine, but he keeps saying his feelings about how much he wants it.. and I feel so pressured to be honest that it's turning me off ... A LOT. He says he is telling me his feelings and he lets me tell me his so he should be allowed to say his feelings. I agree.. and I feel bad, but his feelings I feel do put pressure on me.

I just don't know if me feeling frustrated about this is sensible. I'm getting so frustrated. Not everything is about sex .. and he doesn't know about real dominance in BDSM and power exchange, it's just that the woman is below the man.. and that doesn't turn me on at all either.. and then it's like he says it's okay not to have sex, but his feelings say something different. He truly was okay with not having sex and really understood it then why would he still have such strong feelings?..

Also, he's told me guys can't control their testosterone .. which is a huge turn off to me because I believe a boy can't, and a man can. So I asked him " if you can't control yourself, how can you control me?" he got mad and said he control himself and he proved that over the weekend... but really...did he really?

Sorry this was long, any help would be so appreciated.
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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:14:35 PM   
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Sounds like a bad match, bigtime.
Consider looking for somebody who isn't such a horrible match for you. Also, consider not falling in love with someone until you know them a bit, and have seen them more than twice, and have discussed things like beliefs and opinions.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:15:50 PM   
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Also, after he didn't let me give him a bj and I expressed that I wish we did more bdsm play (so I could get to the point of sexual things) he made me get naked and get on the floor, and just started spanking me extremely hard and making me crawl.... which is okay, but there was no training.. I can do that kind of stuff and want to please if there is training along with it. When I tried to talk to him he just said forcefully " shut the fuck up!" ... I think he thought that was dominant? And , he was annoyed that " I was talking and not letting him do his own thing." ... what was his own thing? .... Pretending that is dominance?

But, I can't help it that he isn't preparing my mind at all... i feel I'm not getting that power exchange that I need order to submit and have sex. If anything I'm the one trying giving guidance for him all the time. The whole " shut the fuck up" thing really just turned me off. :/

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:22:47 PM   
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Yeah.... :/

I just need help.. he says those are his feelings.. but i feel pressured and he said i shouldn't but his feelings make me feel so. We only met two times... sex shouldn't be this big of an issue it puts me in a crappy situation.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:31:04 PM   
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You do realize that him forcing you to blow him, when you did not want to, is considered rape, don't you?

rape  

rape1 [reyp] noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun
1.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person
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And how the hell can you fall in love with someone you've seen only twice [and tried, multiple times, to force you to have sex with him]?

Girl, you are 19 and lonely, I get that. But jesus christ, walk away and find someone worthy of your submission!

He's a douche bag male looking to get laid, with or without your consent. Walk away now before it gets worse, which it will, dude, really, if this is how he acts when he's trying to get you to be involved with him, what the fuck will he do once you are involved, or [shudders], married???

Find a Dom who is on the same path as you, and has the same morals and values and rules as you, stop letting this piece of shit treat you like a second class citizen!

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:39:12 PM   
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Then there was the condom issue, I'm not ready for a baby,but I am on birth control. I had to talk to him for like 2 hours about how we need to do both, he eventually was okay with it.

Dude is stupid as fuck. That's all I have to say about your long post.

Do I understand correctly that you are in college, living arms length away from hundreds (or thousands) of members of whatever sex you prefer? And, instead of dating them, you've spent seven months of your life on hold for a man you've only seen twice, and neither meeting went well?

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:40:58 PM   
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Ok lemme ask you one question....do you want this to continue for the next two times you see him?
How about for the next six times?, how about the rest of your life? you think he will change his ideas ? you think he will be able to understand? What about how you will feel?
Ask yourself seriously ,because to me.this sounds like a match made in hell, you know the answer already......Act on it now, before you get hurt more.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:50:02 PM   
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Yeah, you guys are right. I just do care about him... don't want to hurt him. Just sad I feel bad. But, I can't take what he is doing to me... it's not healthy for me.


And trying to guilt trip me by explaining his feelings is wrong ... and then saying he is not is even more wrong.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:52:58 PM   
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Good for you, you are worth more than his treatment and fucked-up guilt trips ;)

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:53:18 PM   
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I just am confused because he said okay to no sex.... yet... his feelings say something different? He says he isn't pressuring me, but his feelings make me feel like he is.

He says it's okay , yet he felt upset that we didn't have it, that he didn't have it in a long time and every guy would feel like that.

Told me i shouldn't be in a relationship if i can't deal with sex.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:54:48 PM   
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he meant the upset part, he said he was ok with the no sex part just to pacify you.
His later moves prove that.....
I just hope you moveon soon and leave him alone ASAP

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 6:57:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he meant the upset part, he said he was ok with the no sex part just to pacify you.
His later moves prove that.....
I just hope you moveon soon and leave him alone ASAP

quote:

pacify


Yeah, that's exactly how i felt.....


yeah... i know what you are saying is right.... i know what i have to do.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:00:09 PM   
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good Luck..there are GOOD dominants out there, just dont leave your brain or gut intuition out of the process:)
gut feelings can usually be relied on...


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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:00:40 PM   
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I had such a good gut feeling about him ..... until last weekend :/

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:03:49 PM   
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So, he's really actually not ok with the fact we didn't have sex?

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:05:23 PM   
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His actions are abusive and not dominant. My guess from what I can read out of your post is that he has little to no respect for women.

Guys can't control their testosterone? Please. Your gut was exactly right on that one. LISTEN TO IT. If he can't control himself, how can he control you? The fact that this statement made him mad only proves the validity.

I think you have a million other options out there. You don't owe him anything. And with all due respect, based on your own account of your two meetings, you don't really love him. I'm not sure you love yourself.

This guy sounds like an abusive relationship waiting to happen. Or maybe I should say an even more abusive relationship waiting to happen

Take care of you!!

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:10:12 PM   
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Thank you..... you guys all make it so clear. Maybe i just needed to lay out my thoughts and hear everyone's thoughts. Thank you.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:15:28 PM   
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Absolutely nothing in your post is about BDSM, even what you say you want. You have been embarking in a very vanilla way with a guy who I assume from "different culture," you aren't talking European, but more Middle Eastern? Yes, their culture is very different, and there is no doubt to me you wouldn't enjoy being part of it.

Look, he is a guy. He wants sex. He was honest about that. He told you he would wait, but he didn't say he wouldn't keep trying to get in your pants. That's his way of trying to find out if you are ready. You say he "forced" you to get on your knees and give him a blow job, but if that is what happened, you complied, not out of fear of bodily harm, but to please him. Not sexual assault or rape.

You have some definitions in your mind about how a D/s relationship should go. That's fine, although you talk about "training" and I don't think you really understand it.

This guy and you are a poor match. Although you may not like hearing it, you are very immature and not ready for a relationship. I say this because you don't seem to be able to make good decisions about this. I don't care how much you Skype with this guy, you have seen him twice. It doesn't seem obvious to you that who he is texting, instant messaging, emailing and Skyping with are not the same as the person you have been physically next to all of two times.

Break it off with him. Don't worry about hurting his feelings by doing this. Someone's feelings are almost always hurt when two people break up. Then take some time to grow up more. Date local guys. Go to munches near you. Meet people you can actually spend physical time with.

Finally, if you are really not ready to have sexual relations with anyone, use your voice and say "no." If they try to "force" you into it, tell them you said no and mean it. Then leave.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:18:21 PM   
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I had such a good gut feeling about him ..... until last weekend :/


That is why we are always telling people on here that you really do not know a person well until you actually are together face to face. 

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/3/2013 7:24:43 PM   
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Its obviously clear what should be done in this situation, you two are a bad match. Yes you have feelings for him and he does for you? Maybe? He needs to understand that being forceful doesn't actually portray him as Dom. A good Dom will make it so you WANT to do things for him to keep him/her pleased at all times. Anyways glad you have realized that it wasn't a good match. You should find someone that will go slow with you and train you properly. Best of luck to you :)

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