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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:12:07 PM   
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I understand that many people didn't like her. I understand that her policies were very polarizing. I understand that her death is a natural time to discuss her legacy, good or bad. But there's a difference between criticizing those policies and saying things like: [etc]



If you were here, muhly, you'd hear that, much more of it, and much worse.

Look, seriously, for those that are attempting to invoke 'good manners', 'sympathy', 'respect for the recently departed' etc, etc - can I suggest that you stop wasting your time and energy? People just are going to vent their anger here. You might as well argue against the weather.

Every time I hear the phrase 'good manners' in regard to this issue, right now, I think of Thatcher's government sending London coppers up north to help quell the miners' strikes, then coming home to talk gleefully about taunting those miners with lines like 'I'm on overtime, so I can afford a good Christmas - and you're only on strike pay, you cunt'. My own father was one of those coppers.

That was *not* good manners. Do you see? You're on a hiding to nothing. Sarky meows from high horses aren't going to cut it here.



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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:15:20 PM   
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I'm sure this thread will be handy in the archives, when the next old lefty goes off to answer for their deeds.


Oh give me break, Rich. Lefties, and lefties' 'heroes', have been used to that in the propaganda they've been hearing since they first learned that there was a world of politics.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:27:51 PM   
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I'm sure this thread will be handy in the archives, when the next old lefty goes off to answer for their deeds.


Oh give me break, Rich. Lefties, and lefties' 'heroes', have been used to that in the propaganda they've been hearing since they first learned that there was a world of politics.


Agrees with Peon..... And lets not forget I voted for Thatcher every time.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:29:14 PM   
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its a shame all the harm her and her cronies did, cant be undone.


well...I do hope that this does not count for the fact that the UK pays less into the EU than other states...or, that's what had been said in the news over here...that this goes onto her account...

They also said on the news that she was not happy about the reunification of Germany...fearing that Germany would become too powerful


She did get us a rebate. We pay more in than most though.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:30:29 PM   
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Much will be said over the next few weeks about the “achievements” of Margaret Thatcher. These will probably divide between Daily Mailish eulogies and Guardianesque whines. My own view is that she was a bad thing for England.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:38:58 PM   
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Nope, as usual you got me all ass backward... I'm not a neocon, and I wasn't dancing on Kennedy's grave anymore than Thatcher's, I was showing complete ambivalence in both cases.



Like you did when Chavez died ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_J2JNdC9Vg

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:43:49 PM   
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Much will be said over the next few weeks about the “achievements” of Margaret Thatcher. These will probably divide between Daily Mailish eulogies and Guardianesque whines. My own view is that she was a bad thing for England.


Is one mans blogg supposed to mean anything ?

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:51:01 PM   
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I'm sure this thread will be handy in the archives, when the next old lefty goes off to answer for their deeds.


Oh give me break, Rich. Lefties, and lefties' 'heroes', have been used to that in the propaganda they've been hearing since they first learned that there was a world of politics.



As an American, the notion of lefties being surrounded by right-wing propaganda just makes me laugh my ass off. Quite the opposite here.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 4:53:08 PM   
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As an American, the notion of lefties being surrounded by right-wing propaganda just makes me laugh my ass off. Quite the opposite here.


Forgotten Fox News already Rich ?

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:17:07 PM   
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As an American, the notion of lefties being surrounded by right-wing propaganda just makes me laugh my ass off. Quite the opposite here.


Forgotten Fox News already Rich ?



Every thought and talking point in rich`s vocabulary is a fox regurgitation.......so the answer would be.... no




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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:27:52 PM   
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Fox Claimed U.S. Has Lowest Murder Rate By Guns In The World

Bolling: U.S. Has "Lowest Murder Rate By Gun In The World." On the April 4 edition of The Five, co-host Eric Bolling said, "Your number, your 270 million guns in America, 308 million Americans, also of the lowest murder rate by gun in the world also. So more guns equals lower murder rate by guns." [Fox News, The Five, 4/4/13]
http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/04/04/fox-covers-up-facts-that-undermine-anti-gun-ref/193488


PS rich....ive been remarkably polite regarding thatcher when compared to my actual feelings about the woman, Ive had since I was 17. I have no compassion for her in the slightest....I have no respect for the woman, at one time I did.... I learned my lesson well.
Ive mellowed in my old age...a few years ago, I would have danced on her grave.... Now Im more concerned about spraining my ankle.
The damage is done, people are paying for it today...and will be for decades.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:38:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the ways our righties fool themselves into swallowing the fox-poop,Polite,is to start with the cry-baby supposition, that all other media is lying, with a liberal bias.


Of course that`s just more bull shit.....like the way an abuser says they were abused....pretty thin.


The split isn`t right vs. left...it`s truth,the facts and reality vs. spin,lie and propaganda(the real definition).


Our rightists can`t seem to compete in the realm of ideas, without cheating or resorting to swallowing authoritarian rupert murdock`s jism.


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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:41:06 PM   
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Im gonna be left damaged withthat visual, grosss, ptoooey, I may have to report you for cruelty to my brain

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:49:24 PM   
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Much will be said over the next few weeks about the “achievements” of Margaret Thatcher. These will probably divide between Daily Mailish eulogies and Guardianesque whines. My own view is that she was a bad thing for England.


Is one mans blogg supposed to mean anything ?




In that vein, no more so than anything you post.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 5:51:01 PM   
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As an American, the notion of lefties being surrounded by right-wing propaganda just makes me laugh my ass off. Quite the opposite here.


Pfft. The propaganda that works best is the propaganda that doesn't look like propaganda. In fact I'd go further: if it feels like propaganda, it has no chance at all of working as propaganda. As long as they can feed you horseshit but dress it up as the 'ordinary, moderate, middle-of-the-road point of view', it'll work.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 7:33:45 PM   
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As an American, the notion of lefties being surrounded by right-wing propaganda just makes me laugh my ass off. Quite the opposite here.


Forgotten Fox News already Rich ?



LOL. Don't be idiotic, Polite.

Fox News is a cable channel, not a broadcast network. Know enough about how TV is delivered in the US to understand what that means? On cable, they are typically in the premium package, rather than basic, where you will find CNN and MSNBC. They get talked about, and villified, simply because they are the only alternate voice in a sea of national news station liberalism, where what was once the premier broadcast news program has gone to air with forged documents, in an effort to swing an election to the Democrats.





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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 7:38:32 PM   
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Much will be said over the next few weeks about the “achievements” of Margaret Thatcher. These will probably divide between Daily Mailish eulogies and Guardianesque whines. My own view is that she was a bad thing for England.


She certainly did more damage to the UK than anyone in recent history save Tony Blair.

Thatcher's time on the stage of life is over however and may she rest in peace.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 7:39:20 PM   
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PS rich....ive been remarkably polite regarding thatcher when compared to my actual feelings about the woman, Ive had since I was 17. I have no compassion for her in the slightest....I have no respect for the woman, at one time I did.... I learned my lesson well.
Ive mellowed in my old age...a few years ago, I would have danced on her grave.... Now Im more concerned about spraining my ankle.
The damage is done, people are paying for it today...and will be for decades.



No worries. You should hear me cut loose on Nixon.

When Jimmy Carter is dragged away by death's bunny rabbit though, expect this thread to get linked to, as the Teddy Kennedy thread has been here.

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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 7:50:18 PM   
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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - 4/8/2013 7:55:36 PM   
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Anyone following the Jodi Arias murde
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Probably worth it's own thread, if you see the "new post" button at the top left of the forum list.

We are actually having a nice little grave desecration on this one.

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