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If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 9:24:51 PM

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 9:27:14 PM

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Nah. We should be nice and send them one that works and is compatible with Windows 8.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 9:32:54 PM

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Thanks for catching the spirit of the question, Aylee!

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 9:56:03 PM

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The three US Navy guided missile destroyers off the coast of Korea, blow the missiles out of the sky ...

A few hours later ... US Air Force Stealth Bombers pay a visit to the launch sites ....

China publicly protests .. but privately admits ... they (NK) had that coming ...

Yet China will react if South Korea or Other ground forces invade the north.

because then they will be embarrassed.

So the US will get away with a short surgical air defense of South Korea.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 10:09:12 PM

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Nah. We should be nice and send them one that works and is compatible with Windows 8.

Why yes ... no doubt, with Windows 8 ... none of them work! ROFL

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 10:21:48 PM

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Nah. We should be nice and send them one that works and is compatible with Windows 8.

Why yes ... no doubt, with Windows 8 ... none of them work! ROFL

That upgrade from Windows 95 was rough. NorK missile test delayed due to issues with Windows 8. It seems that Li'l Kim is rather upset.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/north-korean-missile-test-delayed-by-windows-8.html

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PYONGYANG (The Borowitz Report)—North Korea’s official news agency announced today that the military’s planned missile test had been put on hold because of “problems with Windows 8.”

Intelligence analysts said that the announcement gave rare insight into the inner workings of North Korea’s missile program, which until last year had been running on Windows 95.

The announcement from the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) did not indicate a new scheduled time for a missile test, saying only that it was “working with Windows 8 support to resolve the issue.”

In the words of one intelligence analyst, “That means the test has been delayed indefinitely.”

A source close to the North Korean regime reported that Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un is furious about the Windows 8 problems and is considering a number of options, including declaring war on Microsoft.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 10:26:11 PM

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Who is 'we'? I suspect it would be a race to see if Japan, the US, or South Korea toasts it first.

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 10:29:31 PM

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/12/2013 10:57:30 PM

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Nah. We should be nice and send them one that works and is compatible with Windows 8.

I'm not sure they're past Vista yet, so we probably shouldn't be worried too much.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:26:41 AM

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Psy seems to be the Millennium type, Kim 2K sounds cool.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:29:22 AM

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On the not so humorous side, satellite imagery confirms that the DPRK has elevated at least one missile launcher. The report did not mention whether there was a missile on the rail. However, an unconfirmed report attributed to a U.S. intelligence offical indicates that one or more missiles have been detected being fueled.

This would be consistent with the launchers being elevated. The missiles are more safely fueled in raised position. If the missiles have been fueled, they will have to be launched within days due to the unstable and corrosive nature of the fuel.

TV Asahi in Seoul has reported the South's detection of a large amount of telemetry from the DPRK. The activation of tracking radars and telemetry for testing and calibration is consistent with a planned launch.

However, these reports are also consistent with an ordinary missile test. The DPRK has the ability to launch mobile missles with very little risk of detection should it wish to do so. Unfortunately, the state of mind of the North's leaders is difficult to assess.

Open sources reveal that the DPRK contacted the EU asking about assistance in case of conflict. It is not clear whether they were asking if the EU would assist them, or whether they were asking if it would assist the U.S. The request is disturbing in either case, because it is delusional to think that the EU would either help them or reveal it's military plans to them.

If the DRPK launches a missile test over the South, an interception will be treated as an interference in its affairs and an attack on the DPRK itself. If ballistics indicate a splashdown outside the South's territory, and the test is ignored, the DPRK will boast that it can penetrate the South's air space with impunity because the enemy fears its power.

However, they will not have the opportunity for such a boast. Indications that the DPRK has reached a point in miniaturizing its nuclear devices to where they are missile deliverable will require a shoot-down. An air-burst detonation over the South will not be risked.

The best determination of the DPRK's intentions will be come from satellite surveillance of the country at night. At present, they are keeping their factories open until midnight. As long as the factories are operating, the DPRK has not mobilized the five million factory workers who form its army reserve and is not prepared for war.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:12:40 AM

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The three US Navy guided missile destroyers off the coast of Korea, blow the missiles out of the sky ...

A few hours later ... US Air Force Stealth Bombers pay a visit to the launch sites ....

China publicly protests .. but privately admits ... they (NK) had that coming ...

Yet China will react if South Korea or Other ground forces invade the north.

because then they will be embarrassed.

So the US will get away with a short surgical air defense of South Korea.

Any such military action would almost certainly doom Seoul. The North maintains a very large artillery and rocket force that is within striking distance of the capital.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 7:33:11 AM

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That brings us to the $64,000 question, Kirata. Does the baby dictator understand the inevitable result of an actual outbreak of war on the peninsula?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 7:39:53 AM

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i reckon tha question of what to do, carry out a strike or decide to ignore kims aggressive posturing has to be based on whats motivating pyongyang. with tha probable fallout on seoul & balancing the risk factors, maybe theres too much risk without that knowledge & disclosure of their nuclear capabilities. maybe there hasnt been enough effort to get high level embedded intelligence networks into pyongyang.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 8:04:37 AM

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Meanwhile, across the northern border of the DPRK

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/world/asia/kim-jong-un-tests-relations-with-china.html?_r=0

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BEIJING — The last known face-to-face contact between Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, and senior Chinese officials did not end well.

A member of China’s Politburo, Li Jianguo, led a small delegation to Pyongyang, North Korea’s capital, in November. He carried a letter from China’s new leader, Xi Jinping, which is said to have contained a simple message: Do not launch a ballistic missile.

Twelve days later, Mr. Kim did just that.

The relationship between North Korea and China, extolled in the past to be as close as “lips and teeth,” has faltered ever since as Mr. Kim, a political neophyte believed to be in his late 20s, has continued to defy Mr. Xi, a 59-year-old seasoned statesman.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 8:14:15 AM

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

just for the sake of clarity . . . . what principle?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 8:17:15 AM

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Oh, I don't know... maybe the principle that when a missile lands, it generally kills a bunch of people?

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

just for the sake of clarity . . . . what principle?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 8:17:41 AM

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just for the sake of clarity . . . . what principle?

If you can't pick it up from the context of the first few posts, Vince, you ain't gonna get it anyway.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 10:39:30 AM

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

If it aint shot down from China, outta Guam, and assuming it makes it off the pad (that one is a stretch) there is no principle involved, it constitutes is a clear and present danger. Fire.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 10:45:50 AM

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North Korea is like the drunk guy in bar who runs his mouth, pounds his chest.....and accidentally starts a fight he's not prepared for.

China is like his sober buddy, telling NK to shut up because he realizes that either way he (China) loses.

NK starts a war and loses. China gets to have South Korea and US forces on it's own border, instead of having an insulator.

China defends NK, and they lose a very large source of revenue because they can no longer sell their products to the US.

On the other hand, the prepping business is going through the roof....

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