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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 6:59:44 AM

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BUT I DO care in the way i want

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:03:24 AM

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Hey, you know. If you gave this OP a better vocabulary, some charm, a bit of spit and polish and amp up his common sense - he could be Resident Sadist.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:08:33 AM

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well i fell normal

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:13:26 AM

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Greetings

Just like no one can fully agree on the difference between a bottom, a submissive and a slave, there is no clear distinction between a Dom and a Master. To me generally a Master is not something you are unless you mean it in terms of a Martial Arts master or a mater of some crafts. To me Master is something you are in relation to a submissive or a slave, you are his or her Master. Generally Master means someone who have mastered something, gotten on top of it, have control over this thing, the master of the house, the master of a trade, the master of the ship and so on, the master is they guy in charge. However the local harbormaster do not go around and call himself a master in general, it is only a title he or she have in relation to the docks, and the same, to me a Master with capital M in BDSM terms is the controller of a slave or a submissive, it is something he is in relation to his partner. He is not Master such and such, he is Steven, but in relation to his sub, the person he is in control over he is the Master. It is like with an animal yes, I am at cat Maude and the tarantula Blair's mistress, I own them, and yes these are terms still used, you still find those who would say to a dog. Okey let us return you to your master. However that do not mean my identity is mistress such and such. To me the Master of a slave is Master to her, but he is not a Master, that is not his identity for it would be folly to identify oneself completely after what one is in relation to a slave.

Now like I said this is just how I see it, there are many ways to see it all equally valid, that do however mean that you are not likely to get a conclusive answer to this, everyone have their own opinions on the matter.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:14:38 AM

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yeah you proberly know more

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:18:10 AM

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We might not be able to agree on the difference between Master and dominant, but one thing I know for sure: You aren't one.

From your posts you appear to have little self control, self control is the hallmark of *any* good dominant.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:18:23 AM

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good for you, you know more

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:19:16 AM

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First, keep in mind that the definitions will not be universal but will vary from person to person.

My take is that a Dom wants to be in control. Period. The need for control extends outside the bedroom (if it doesn't, he is a top and not a Dom). It can incorporate punishment into the dynamic but not necessarily.

A Master is a Dom that has put in extra time and effort to learn tools of the craft. Generally, he is recognized by others for his ability and attitude and code of behavior.

(Please note that Goreans call men Master when they only fir the definition of a Dom above. They use their own terms.)

I am a Dom. My skill level is not high enough for me to be considered a Master, although I try to live my life like a Master would regarding my behavior toward others.

Most excellent post, Steven.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:24:47 AM

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A safe word realy? you are sub slave don`t have safe word

No.

Her Master decided, for whatever reason, that he wanted her to have a safe word. He ignored all treatises that stated slaves don't get one when he did. A Master does what he thinks is best rather than blindly follow some guidance from someone who never met him or his slave.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:25:27 AM

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THATS THE THING, I DON´T CARE

And there's the rub!

As a 'master', you HAVE to care about your sub/slave, it's your responsibility.
If you don't, you are not a master in my book.

In fact, those bits of your profile read like a juvenile wannabe master who has no idea at all.
You come across as nothing more than a chest-thumping newbie.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:27:15 AM

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i am so sorry

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:32:22 AM

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quote:

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A safe word realy? you are sub slave don`t have safe word

No.

Her Master decided, for whatever reason, that he wanted her to have a safe word. He ignored all treatises that stated slaves don't get one when he did. A Master does what he thinks is best rather than blindly follow some guidance from someone who never met him or his slave.

And that is exactly it; thank you for explaining it with patience DS.

As for this:

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His first order to me was "You never give up your right to say no".

That does not mean that saying "No" might not have consequences.
That does not mean that saying "No" might not have consequences I would not like.

But, without the ability for a strong "No", does yes mean anything?

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:35:17 AM

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I had to look at the profile. It was like the light at the end of the tunnel, I knew it was a train, I *KNEW* it, but I went and looked anyway.

The OP claims to be an 'expert' at wearing masks. Oh, and getting massages.

Sweetie, you've been watching too much porn (again.) Those are *actresses* -- they are acting out fantasies.

If you are really interested in practicing BDSM, as opposed to merely fantasizing about it, educate yourself. This forum can be a great place to do that.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:38:21 AM

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Generally speaking, the best way to have a discussion is this:

This is what I think/believe/feel about X.

What do you think/believe/feel about it?

And then the person posing the discussion point does not jump all over the people who disagree and tell them they are wrong, but instead asks more questions for clarification.

So, now that you have moved way from attacking people who disagree with you, perhaps you would like to actually enter into a reasoned discussion?

You might find that to be more enjoyable.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:43:42 AM

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In my estimation, a Master is a Guy who owns a Slave. The term denotes the kind of relationship he has with his sub. If the Slave leaves, that guy is no longer a Master until he gets a new Slave to be master of.

All this BS about skill level qualifying someone to be called master is just ego. There are good masters and bad masters. Just as there are good husbands and bad husbands.

Karate Master is a different kettle of fish altogether. That kind of master has mastered a craft. The craft cannot leave him like a Slave can.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:46:20 AM

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This thread is EXACTLY why I avoid titles like Master, they are so tainted by chest thumping immature nitwits who think throwing tantrums to get their way is somehow a sign of mastery.

Punishment is the weakest of tools, inspiration and love the most powerful.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:55:49 AM

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No but i think you are sub, and not a slave

And why do you think your opinion of HER dynamic (which doesn't include you) means anything?

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 7:59:24 AM

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I've kind of held off on responding to this largely because of my handle. I consider myself a Dom more than "Master", and I actually intended my handle to be "Mister Caneman", but I neglected to check my work before hitting the 'accept' button. But I do accept the term when it comes to being in charge, either in the bedroom or in the real world. I have held positions of authority, and I am a master of certain things, so I'm content to let things sit as they are (and at 1200+ posts, I'm not scrubbing it and starting over. Period.)

Let me break down on my philosophy on this subject. I am not putting down others who live this lifestyle 24/7 in any respect, but I have always considered The Scene to be nothing more than a particularly rewarding hobby and recreational activity. For me and my partners, with the exception of two who wanted much more than I could give them, this was the dynamic. The ladies I interacted with liked playing, but there was a definite 'end time' for a scene. To live the life the way some folks do would become burdensome to me. I definitely put up a wall between my kink and the real world. This has served me well over the years.

I consider myself a controlled, thoughtful, powerful, and sane man. I prefer being the top dog in any situation I'm in, but am smart enough to know when to bend. In the bedroom (or dungeon, if you prefer), I am in charge, but not to the point my partner starts to rethink her decision to consent. I know what it's like to be on the receiving end of someone out of control, and I constantly check myself to avoid that.

Master? Dominant? To me, they're an interchangeable title. Others may disagree, and it's their right to do so. I am content with myself the way I am.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 8:03:33 AM

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No but i think you are sub, and not a slave

And why do you think your opinion of HER dynamic (which doesn't include you) means anything?

The easiest way to lessen my opinion of you is to say "so and so is not a real Master/Slave/sub etc. it's never classy and it's rather rude to qualify something so personal as a persons sexual identity.

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RE: What the difference between Dominant and Master. - 6/12/2013 8:05:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

I've kind of held off on responding to this largely because of my handle. I consider myself a Dom more than "Master", and I actually intended my handle to be "Mister Caneman", but I neglected to check my work before hitting the 'accept' button. But I do accept the term when it comes to being in charge, either in the bedroom or in the real world. I have held positions of authority, and I am a master of certain things, so I'm content to let things sit as they are (and at 1200+ posts, I'm not scrubbing it and starting over. Period.)

Let me break down on my philosophy on this subject. I am not putting down others who live this lifestyle 24/7 in any respect, but I have always considered The Scene to be nothing more than a particularly rewarding hobby and recreational activity. For me and my partners, with the exception of two who wanted much more than I could give them, this was the dynamic. The ladies I interacted with liked playing, but there was a definite 'end time' for a scene. To live the life the way some folks do would become burdensome to me. I definitely put up a wall between my kink and the real world. This has served me well over the years.

I consider myself a controlled, thoughtful, powerful, and sane man. I prefer being the top dog in any situation I'm in, but am smart enough to know when to bend. In the bedroom (or dungeon, if you prefer), I am in charge, but not to the point my partner starts to rethink her decision to consent. I know what it's like to be on the receiving end of someone out of control, and I constantly check myself to avoid that.

Master? Dominant? To me, they're an interchangeable title. Others may disagree, and it's their right to do so. I am content with myself the way I am.

Loved this. I'm much the same.

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