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DaddySatyr -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:01:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rawni

Geezzz you're lucky! I can't say 95% of my messages are one thing or another, but a great majority are silly whacked out, all too real horny guys with a stiffy in my face.



... and I've apologized, over and over for that.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:06:39 AM)

We are waiting for our apology.




LadyPact -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:09:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
Seriously. How do you use a site where 95% of the messages and profile views you receive are CLEARLY spam accounts? At the very least they could flag accounts with the SAME URL in every profile description or members that claim to be "native american" and are clearly not.

Alpha addressed the same URL gig here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4465005/tm.htm

My experience on CM is vastly different than yours. I get very few views/messages from spam accounts. I wouldn't even estimate it at 2-3%. At least half of the mail that I get here is from forum participants or people that I have met in the real world. The rest would be from what I call "drive-bys" which is what Rawni/Locket mentioned in her post.

Is it possible, just possible, that you aren't fishing with the right bait? If you want real people to want to visit your profile, what are you doing to encourage that?





handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:09:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

~FRing it~

You should demand that CM return all fees paid by you for membership right away! Didn't pay membership fees, you say? Then I suggest the next best thing...delete and move on with life.


Right...b/c offering suggestions to improve the user experience is completely absurd, right?




Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:10:44 AM)

ROFLMAO at Daddy and PA. I so didn't expect that. Some of you people are really trying to ruin my keyboard.




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:12:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


In other words.... there isnt anything the site can do beyond vetting... and unless you are willing to start paying to use the site, thats not going to happen.

So, utilize your block feature and move on.


I do this for a living so yes, there are many things a site can do to. Keyword flagging, pattern recognition, challenge/response questions, etc.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:15:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
I do this for a living so yes, there are many things a site can do to. Keyword flagging, pattern recognition, challenge/response questions, etc.

In which free-of-charge personals website have these features been implemented in a scalable way?




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:15:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

If it takes ten seconds to recognize a profile isn't something you want, and then to click "Hide Profile," then hiding 100 profiles takes 1,000 seconds. That's less than 17 minutes of browsing time.

I just don't see why this is a big deal. Even if the 95% figure were true, which hasn't been my personal experience, it's barely an inconvenience. It takes at least twice as long to buy groceries for the next couple days.

Of course, it's up to you whether you want to solve problems, or be defeated by them.


It's not a "big deal" in the grand scheme of things. It is a problem, and even though its not a problem for you because you choose to willfully ignore it doesn't mean its not a problem.




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:17:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
Seriously. How do you use a site where 95% of the messages and profile views you receive are CLEARLY spam accounts? At the very least they could flag accounts with the SAME URL in every profile description or members that claim to be "native american" and are clearly not.

Alpha addressed the same URL gig here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4465005/tm.htm

My experience on CM is vastly different than yours. I get very few views/messages from spam accounts. I wouldn't even estimate it at 2-3%. At least half of the mail that I get here is from forum participants or people that I have met in the real world. The rest would be from what I call "drive-bys" which is what Rawni/Locket mentioned in her post.

Is it possible, just possible, that you aren't fishing with the right bait? If you want real people to want to visit your profile, what are you doing to encourage that?




I'm not looking for more views by real people. If this community is to grow, it has to present a credible face to new members, and you can't accomplish that when a new user's first view of nearby members are predominately fake accounts.




Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:19:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


In other words.... there isnt anything the site can do beyond vetting... and unless you are willing to start paying to use the site, thats not going to happen.

So, utilize your block feature and move on.


I do this for a living so yes, there are many things a site can do to. Keyword flagging, pattern recognition, challenge/response questions, etc.


So when you clean up the net... you can be my hero and I am sure you will have all the kinky guys hounding the females, on their knees to you, hoping for some anal.




pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:20:40 AM)

I agree. A BJ would be great.


This thread tho woke up the board from a slumber. lol




VideoAdminRho -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:21:12 AM)

Per Alpha: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4466901

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha



At the risk of further killing my email box by those that do not follow the rest of my reply and follow my words, here goes:

If you see something like the first occurrence listed with a website etc., or at least a dozen profiles that have the exact same wording or in the case of this situation listed, please write me directly with the information. I wish someone would have written me with the above website address because yes, there are dozens that I am going to have to direct staff to take care of, then take additional measures to keep that particular occurrence from happening again. If I would have known at the beginning there would not be that many of those profiles clogging your searches. We do not want these accounts here any more than the users do, and do NOT want those users artificially inflating the member number base, no matter what the popular opinion concerning that matter is.

Please do NOT write me about particular accounts you find or think fake. Please use your report button to report those. When there is a specific amount of DIFFERENT users reporting a particular account, the auto system takes over.





tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:23:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: handonyourneck


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


In other words.... there isnt anything the site can do beyond vetting... and unless you are willing to start paying to use the site, thats not going to happen.

So, utilize your block feature and move on.


I do this for a living so yes, there are many things a site can do to. Keyword flagging, pattern recognition, challenge/response questions, etc.


You did notice there is a verification string, yes? Supposedly to help reduce bots from making accounts.

And, since you do this for a living, you know its not cheap, correct?

How much are you willing to pay?




RedMagic1 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:24:14 AM)

Handonyourneck, there are people posting on this thread who have met over 200 CM people in real life. I've met maybe half that. This is a big part of why we're finding it hard to take you seriously. Also, your "do it for a living" spiel is a bit much, especially given the non-suggestion you provided. Your stating you're an expert on the internet (something nobody has ever done before) isn't going to sway anyone's opinion, unless you indicate in concrete, non-glib terms, how you would solve a highly nontrivial programming problem.

As we say in CS research, if it were easy, someone would have done it already.




LadyPact -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:24:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
I'm not looking for more views by real people. If this community is to grow, it has to present a credible face to new members, and you can't accomplish that when a new user's first view of nearby members are predominately fake accounts.

I'm actually not personally invested in whether "this community" (by which I am guessing that you mean CM) grows. That's more for the folks who concern themselves with numbers for advertising slots.

Speaking as someone who has done the research on how many new accounts show up here over the random 24 hour period, I'd have to tell you that you are grasping at straws for that to be a legitimate concern. Most folks have no idea of how many new members join this site each and every day. If I remember correctly, I put the numbers in the thread I linked for you above.





handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:25:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
I do this for a living so yes, there are many things a site can do to. Keyword flagging, pattern recognition, challenge/response questions, etc.

In which free-of-charge personals website have these features been implemented in a scalable way?


I have no idea what is in the code of other websites. I'm not on any of their programmer teams. I know from personal experience from the websites I've developed that these solutions are not particularly difficult to code.

I do, however, see dramatically less overtly phony users on OkCupid and POF (after they made intimate encounters a paid only feature).




poise -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:25:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
Seriously. How do you use a site where 95% of the messages and profile views you
receive are CLEARLY spam accounts?

I think sexyred1 touched on something when she mentioned your profile being a
magnet for scammers/spammers. Most are aware that finding a potential match for
a woman to join an existing relationship is a rather difficult feat, especially if they are
trying to do so via the internet. The accounts that are viewing you are hoping you are
desperate enough to fall for what they offer.
I bet Rubysoho33 doesn't get these types of views/messages, right?


Luckily for you, you are wiser than most, and haven't fallen victim to their shenanigans.
Yes, it is frustrating, and yes, there are many ways in which this site can be improved upon.
But until then, try and find ways in which you can enjoy your free membership here, instead
of turning into a completely negative experience. There truly are some wonderful people here.




tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:26:12 AM)

Ahhh.. a paid feature... and yet you are here.




pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:27:15 AM)

Then there is your answer POF. bye bye




DaddySatyr -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:27:37 AM)

Okay so, if I volunteer to do this coding, I get a blowjob? No, I'm going to need them, weekly and endlessly.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




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