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pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:52:57 AM)

OP- it is nothing personal- we get the "so many fakes" threads weekly- and it does baffle some of us - that have known eachother for years.

You are asking for instant results.


PS- Im not a fan of capchas.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:56:25 AM)

I usually get spam letters yet I don't go crying to Momma about them.

The people in the background are VOLUNTEERS!!! They don't get paid to put up with your shit.




pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:56:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: stef


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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck

Seriously. How do you use a site where 95% of the messages and profile views you receive are CLEARLY spam accounts? At the very least they could flag accounts with the SAME URL in every profile description or members that claim to be "native american" and are clearly not.


How much are you willing to pay for people to police all those profiles?



Excuse me. You are not in the data base!!!




tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:57:34 AM)

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Yeah, nice attempt to use my argument against me, but it doesn't quite work that way because you still don't know what you're talking about.

It is also irrelevant to my initial argument that the problem exists and something should be done about it. That is indisputable, unless you like SPAM accounts.


Actually, I do know quite a bit about it. I love it when pompous people make assumptions about others they do not know. In your own words....

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Solving this problem without knowing their architecture and seeing their code is impossible. I don't even know what language its coded in.


And yet you KNOW they can do the things you claim they should do, in your excellent understanding of the program... opps... forgot, you dont know what program they use.

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The fundamental misunderstanding here is the need for manual intervention. I'm not advocating hiring a staff of people to wade through accounts. This can be accomplished through programming.


Tell ya what. There is an easy solution.

Contact support. They are the one's who handle these issues. [:D]

Good luck!




poise -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:57:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
I'm off the thread.

Wait for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!




DonJ9069 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:58:37 AM)

Should they ever choose to do something about which I doubt they ever will.
It would mean they would have to spend some money to address the issue & they aren't here to spend any money they are here to make money from the advertising.
Just doing a reverse image check helps a great deal but still all in all a fact of being on here as a free site I've seen dozens of site promoters on here which is obvious but what can you say it's a free site just something to deal with & just be carefull with whom you make contact with & who makes contact with you .
Life is a bitch & sometimes you marry one
What can ya say get over it .




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 11:59:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck

The fundamental misunderstanding here is the need for manual intervention. I'm not advocating hiring a staff of people to wade through accounts. This can be accomplished through programming.

The fundamental misunderstanding here is you thinking that you have some unique grasp of the problem and the ideal solution for it. You don't, but thanks for playing anyway.


Snarky closers are really not going to save your argument. The problem is not unique, its actually quite common. Most programmers that develop public websites with user accounts have to deal with the problem of SPAM accounts at some point. The techniques and methodologies are well documented.




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:00:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

I usually get spam letters yet I don't go crying to Momma about them.

The people in the background are VOLUNTEERS!!! They don't get paid to put up with your shit.


No they don't. They volunteered to "put up with my shit" aka suggesting a way to improve the site.




Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:02:17 PM)

When I don't like a place, I leave that place. I don't hang around to punish anyone because I don't like it there. I don't hang on to dysfunctional relationships of any sort. When it is time to bitch, it is time to go. What I find kind of interesting is that some will stick around claiming some self promoting martyr syndrome with an honor base of helping the community.

All I can see is someone not handling their own business and controlling themselves, that in their misery, anally pound something to death when they could simply shut the hell up, walk away and be mature.

Tantrums are unattractive even in a toddler.




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:03:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DonJ9069

Should they ever choose to do something about which I doubt they ever will.
It would mean they would have to spend some money to address the issue & they aren't here to spend any money they are here to make money from the advertising.
Just doing a reverse image check helps a great deal but still all in all a fact of being on here as a free site I've seen dozens of site promoters on here which is obvious but what can you say it's a free site just something to deal with & just be carefull with whom you make contact with & who makes contact with you .
Life is a bitch & sometimes you marry one
What can ya say get over it .



As the old adage goes, you have to spend money to make money. Then again, if the owners of this site are programmers, they don't have to spend a dime. They could just do it themselves.




pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:04:05 PM)

I missed the post where we got our apology.




ravishers -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:04:36 PM)

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When it is time to bitch, it is time to go.


then most people would be on the run every day.
And that happens a lot, hence the crap that is going on ;)




Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:06:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ravishers

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When it is time to bitch, it is time to go.


then most people would be on the run every day.
And that happens a lot, hence the crap that is going on ;)


Only if they are really, really bitchy and then I would suggest 'they' are the one with the problem.




ravishers -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:07:56 PM)

true, really really bitching is an over kill.
But normally pointing at some problems is often seen as bitching on the web.




tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:09:10 PM)

I can be really really bitchy.




handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:09:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rawni

When I don't like a place, I leave that place. I don't hang around to punish anyone because I don't like it there. I don't hang on to dysfunctional relationships of any sort. When it is time to bitch, it is time to go. What I find kind of interesting is that some will stick around claiming some self promoting martyr syndrome with an honor base of helping the community.

All I can see is someone not handling their own business and controlling themselves, that in their misery, anally pound something to death when they could simply shut the hell up, walk away and be mature.

Tantrums are unattractive even in a toddler.


I assume you are talking about me, but feel free to continue addressing the general void. I'll respond though, directly, to you.

I am not you. Like this country, if there is a problem, I will voice my opinion in the hope that doing so effects change. If I were to move every time I encountered a problem, I would never stop moving. So I'm going to do what adults do. Voice a suggestion to make the site better and stand by it. If you want to call that "martyr syndrome" (whatever that is, clearly you misunderstand what the word martyr means), then feel free to follow your own advice, stop bitching and bow out of this thread.




Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:10:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ravishers

true, really really bitching is an over kill.
But normally pointing at some problems is often seen as bitching on the web.


Claiming that 95% of profiles and messages are scammers isn't pointing out a problem. It is venting, bitching or screwing with the numbers to make a point you didn't have to embellish upon to point something out.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:11:19 PM)

So can I and I can blame my mental illnesses on it...




LadyPact -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:11:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: handonyourneck
Snarky closers are really not going to save your argument. The problem is not unique, its actually quite common. Most programmers that develop public websites with user accounts have to deal with the problem of SPAM accounts at some point. The techniques and methodologies are well documented.

I'm going to preface this little statement with a disclosure. I don't speak for the site. I don't own the site. I don't have any ties to the site that make Me any different than any other poster, just like you.

With that said, I'm going to tell you how I interpret this, and many other so-called "suggestions" that come up around here. If I owned the joint, there's very little that I feel I would "have to" (your words) do. I would "have to" keep the site running. I would "have to" cover My ass legally. I would "have to" pay taxes on the income.

Considering there is enough legalese in the ToS that says the site *isn't* responsible for verifying accounts here in any way, please tell Me from a business perspective why you feel that I, if I were the owner, would "have to" spend the money to implement the programming that you suggest?





MisterP61 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:13:21 PM)

O.o no way Tazzy

To the OP... It would be against TOS to call you a ..... never mind you are not worth the gold mail

ETA the stuff after the second ellipses and remove my NYer from the equation




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