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ravishers -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:15:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni quote: ORIGINAL: ravishers true, really really bitching is an over kill. But normally pointing at some problems is often seen as bitching on the web. Claiming that 95% of profiles and messages are scammers isn't pointing out a problem. It is venting, bitching or screwing with the numbers to make a point you didn't have to embellish upon to point something out. I come here for 10 years or so. The amount of " advertisers"( lets call them that) has increased damn much. First they were rare and deleted emmediately. Now there is hardly action. Call it loyalty to this place..I find it a pity. But anyway...still enough to like. I own a lott to this place. 95% is overdone agree.

stef -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:15:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck Snarky closers are really not going to save your argument. I'm not the one with an argument to save.

pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:17:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck Snarky closers are really not going to save your argument. I'm not the one with an argument to save. You are not in the data base. YOU ARE NOT REAL!

Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:17:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni When I don't like a place, I leave that place. I don't hang around to punish anyone because I don't like it there. I don't hang on to dysfunctional relationships of any sort. When it is time to bitch, it is time to go. What I find kind of interesting is that some will stick around claiming some self promoting martyr syndrome with an honor base of helping the community. All I can see is someone not handling their own business and controlling themselves, that in their misery, anally pound something to death when they could simply shut the hell up, walk away and be mature. Tantrums are unattractive even in a toddler. I assume you are talking about me, but feel free to continue addressing the general void. I'll respond though, directly, to you. I am not you. Like this country, if there is a problem, I will voice my opinion in the hope that doing so effects change. If I were to move every time I encountered a problem, I would never stop moving. So I'm going to do what adults do. Voice a suggestion to make the site better and stand by it. If you want to call that "martyr syndrome" (whatever that is, clearly you misunderstand what the word martyr means), then feel free to follow your own advice, stop bitching and bow out of this thread. [:D] Darlin, you are not alone in starting a thread that wants someone to do something around here. Yes, I am talking about you and others. Now.. that honor thing... I see you compare national devotion to participation here. That might have worked with some, but I am not buying it. That is like comparing whores to a nun, but since you went there, let's. When I have an issue with something taking place in this nation, I go to the proper source. I don't need fanfare... to join a club or anything else. I simply insist on speaking with whomever can make the changes I want. In one hour I helped to change the vote on a certain bill, that a senator was going to make the next day. I proved my case with hard facts and the results upon our communities if they didn't vote the way I felt they should. Starting a thread like this isn't effective most of the time and if you are going to go this route... you might doctor up your doctored numbers and get your facts straight or you will be ineffective and look like every other complainer out there.

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:18:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni quote: ORIGINAL: ravishers true, really really bitching is an over kill. But normally pointing at some problems is often seen as bitching on the web. Claiming that 95% of profiles and messages are scammers isn't pointing out a problem. It is venting, bitching or screwing with the numbers to make a point you didn't have to embellish upon to point something out. quote: Claiming that 95% of profiles and messages are scammers I was referring to my personal experience, not the site in general. I don't know if the SPAM is bad in states with smaller populations but here in the NY tri-state area its pretty bad. I'm sorry if the statistical average was inaccurate. I concede I didn't actually calculate the exact percentage, but used that figure to suggest a vast majority.

tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:19:23 PM)
quote: I come here for 10 years or so. The amount of " advertisers"( lets call them that) has increased damn much. First they were rare and deleted emmediately. Now there is hardly action. Call it loyalty to this place..I find it a pity. I have seen scammer profiles. Know what the interesting thing is that has happened? Women started coping the scammer profiles. Vidchat is full of them now. They cam, you can tell the photos are them, so the pics are authentic. Yet, reading their profiles... they scream scammer. I have a feeling the OP here is upset because his preferred age group tends to fall into the age group that has seen an influx in the "financial" sector.

pahunkboy -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:19:37 PM)
I have seen enough here over the years- to conclude the owners know what they are doing.

Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:22:02 PM)
I come here for 10 years or so. The amount of " advertisers"( lets call them that) has increased damn much. First they were rare and deleted emmediately. Now there is hardly action. Call it loyalty to this place..I find it a pity. But anyway...still enough to like. I own a lott to this place. 95% is overdone agree. [/quote] I cannot comment on whether they were rare and deleted immediately, as I don't know about that. I do know there are things I would want to change or do around here, but it isn't my baby. I will make suggestions and have. I didn't piss myself or on anyone else in the process and if I did unknowingly... I am sorry. [:D]

ravishers -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:22:05 PM)
what facts lead to this conclusion that are different from the OP's?

ravishers -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:23:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni I didn't piss myself or on anyone else in the process and if I did unknowingly... I am sorry. [:D] I didn't smell anything, so you are good :D

Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:24:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ravishers quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni I didn't piss myself or on anyone else in the process and if I did unknowingly... I am sorry. [:D] I didn't smell anything, so you are good :D Whew! My shit doesn't stink either. Hehehe

DonJ9069 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:26:52 PM)
I seriously doubt it will ever get any better if anything it will get worse & until they start loosing their database of "customers & members" it is what it is , take it or leave it. then deal with it. I would venture over 1/2 of the profiles on here are flat out fakes & frauds & scammers & they make their living just scamming ppl & their isn't a thing anyone can or will ever be able to do about it . All any of us can do is just use common sense & be cautious . Sad to say their are more than a few that make it difficult for those of us that are hear & serious about this kind of life , Their are way to many that really try to ruin it for us all. Personally I'd just asume it go to a pay site & help alleviate the B/S & riftraft. But doubt seeing that one happen either. Just face it ppl nothing is ever free even hard times cost ya .

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:29:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck Snarky closers are really not going to save your argument. The problem is not unique, its actually quite common. Most programmers that develop public websites with user accounts have to deal with the problem of SPAM accounts at some point. The techniques and methodologies are well documented. I'm going to preface this little statement with a disclosure. I don't speak for the site. I don't own the site. I don't have any ties to the site that make Me any different than any other poster, just like you. With that said, I'm going to tell you how I interpret this, and many other so-called "suggestions" that come up around here. If I owned the joint, there's very little that I feel I would "have to" (your words) do. I would "have to" keep the site running. I would "have to" cover My ass legally. I would "have to" pay taxes on the income. Considering there is enough legalese in the ToS that says the site isn't responsible for verifying accounts here in any way, please tell Me from a business perspective why you feel that I, if I were the owner, would "have to" spend the money to implement the programming that you suggest? Certainly. I will share the reasons/complaints I've encountered from clients I've done similar work for in the past. 1) Advertisers want accurate member counts. Artificially inflating your member base can cost you money and your sites credibility. 2) Fake accounts that upload images use up valuable storage and bandwidth, which cost you money. 3) If the object of a personals site (even a BDSM one) is to grow its member base (which it is), ensuring the accounts on your site are actual people should be an integral part of your business practice. Nobody wants to invest time wading through fake accounts and fake emails. 4) Exposing your members to these fake accounts leaves them vulnerable to phishing and other online scams will eventually lead to site abandonment. Not everyone is savvy enough to spot them. Being party to someone getting ripped off, even unintentionally, can hurt a site's reputation. 5) It hurts your credibility with the internet at large. I don't know any business owner who would enjoy googling his business only to find entire sites devoted to exposing the very fake accounts we're discussing here. I also don't know many business owners who would want to network their site with a site that can't keep a handle on this kind of activity. Circulation of traffic is the lifeblood of this business. I direct to you, you direct to me, we all make money. 6) Fake accounts can get you blacklisted with search engines and toolbars. Those are just off the top of my head.

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:30:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisterP61 O.o no way Tazzy To the OP... It would be against TOS to call you a ..... never mind you are not worth the gold mail ETA the stuff after the ellipses and remove my NYer from the equation Oh no, did you just call me a name? Now I'm hurt. Nobody's ever done that to me on the Internet before.

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:35:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni When I don't like a place, I leave that place. I don't hang around to punish anyone because I don't like it there. I don't hang on to dysfunctional relationships of any sort. When it is time to bitch, it is time to go. What I find kind of interesting is that some will stick around claiming some self promoting martyr syndrome with an honor base of helping the community. All I can see is someone not handling their own business and controlling themselves, that in their misery, anally pound something to death when they could simply shut the hell up, walk away and be mature. Tantrums are unattractive even in a toddler. I assume you are talking about me, but feel free to continue addressing the general void. I'll respond though, directly, to you. I am not you. Like this country, if there is a problem, I will voice my opinion in the hope that doing so effects change. If I were to move every time I encountered a problem, I would never stop moving. So I'm going to do what adults do. Voice a suggestion to make the site better and stand by it. If you want to call that "martyr syndrome" (whatever that is, clearly you misunderstand what the word martyr means), then feel free to follow your own advice, stop bitching and bow out of this thread. [:D] Darlin, you are not alone in starting a thread that wants someone to do something around here. Yes, I am talking about you and others. Now.. that honor thing... I see you compare national devotion to participation here. That might have worked with some, but I am not buying it. That is like comparing whores to a nun, but since you went there, let's. When I have an issue with something taking place in this nation, I go to the proper source. I don't need fanfare... to join a club or anything else. I simply insist on speaking with whomever can make the changes I want. In one hour I helped to change the vote on a certain bill, that a senator was going to make the next day. I proved my case with hard facts and the results upon our communities if they didn't vote the way I felt they should. Starting a thread like this isn't effective most of the time and if you are going to go this route... you might doctor up your doctored numbers and get your facts straight or you will be ineffective and look like every other complainer out there. So the problem is not the fake accounts but my inaccuracy in the reporting of them? Please go back to needlepoint or whatever it is you were doing. You make no sense.

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:37:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni I come here for 10 years or so. The amount of " advertisers"( lets call them that) has increased damn much. First they were rare and deleted emmediately. Now there is hardly action. Call it loyalty to this place..I find it a pity. But anyway...still enough to like. I own a lott to this place. 95% is overdone agree. I cannot comment on whether they were rare and deleted immediately, as I don't know about that. I do know there are things I would want to change or do around here, but it isn't my baby. I will make suggestions and have. I didn't piss myself or on anyone else in the process and if I did unknowingly... I am sorry. [:D] quote: t They are not rare or deleted immediately.

MisterP61 -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:41:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck quote: ORIGINAL: MisterP61 O.o no way Tazzy To the OP... It would be against TOS to call you a ..... never mind you are not worth the gold mail ETA the stuff after the ellipses and remove my NYer from the equation Oh no, did you just call me a name? Now I'm hurt. Nobody's ever done that to me on the Internet before. Really? ok time for My shock face [sm=excuseme.gif] you have all this wonderful advice... and since you knoooooowwwww so much about how to do it... why don't you go ahead and start your own site and implement all those wonderful things to protect the people who no matter what you do will still fall for the same shit all of the time. Oh wait nevermind those who can do.... those who can't criticize.

tazzygirl -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:42:21 PM)
Are you finished... because if you are, I have a question for you.

Rawni -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:45:39 PM)
handonyourneck... just for you. However, I would have you sitting there for my needlepoint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2_1bWlwnVk

handonyourneck -> RE: Collarme needs to do a better job of policing its userbase (6/13/2013 12:45:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisterP61 quote: ORIGINAL: handonyourneck quote: ORIGINAL: MisterP61 O.o no way Tazzy To the OP... It would be against TOS to call you a ..... never mind you are not worth the gold mail ETA the stuff after the ellipses and remove my NYer from the equation Oh no, did you just call me a name? Now I'm hurt. Nobody's ever done that to me on the Internet before. Really? ok time for My shock face [sm=excuseme.gif] you have all this wonderful advice... and since you knoooooowwwww so much about how to do it... why don't you go ahead and start your own site and implement all those wonderful things to protect the people who no matter what you do will still fall for the same shit all of the time. Oh wait nevermind those who can do.... those who can't criticize. Your argument would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that proper automated screening would prevent the people you speak of from seeing the fake profiles to begin with. Of course, no system is perfect, but certainly a better job could be done.

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