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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 10:05:02 PM   
DominantJ247


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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 10:16:35 PM   
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Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

Could Zimmerman have sustained injuries with out Martin hitting him?

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 10:32:05 PM   
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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:00:07 PM   
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Possibly if he hit himself with a pistol. his blood was on the pistol

I should have added or tin foil theories.
You are aware that the closest thing to an eyewitness saw Martin on top beating Zimmerman.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:13:27 PM   
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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:17:51 PM   
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yes i am..... how could martin have noblood on him? From zimmerman.

First people say Zimmerman didn't bleed enough then they expect that not enough to count for self defense to have splattered all over Martin.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:29:51 PM   
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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:38:47 PM   
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yes i am..... how could martin have noblood on him? From zimmerman.


People have been asking that question a lot. Not just from the gun shot wound, but how did Z get his mouth and nose covered without leaving any traces of blood on the victim's hands.

Maybe Z will do a book deal and tell us the truth eventually.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:49:12 PM   
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yes i am..... how could martin have noblood on him? From zimmerman.


People have been asking that question a lot. Not just from the gun shot wound, but how did Z get his mouth and nose covered without leaving any traces of blood on the victim's hands.

Maybe Z will do a book deal and tell us the truth eventually.

Bet it won't be titled this is how I would have done it if I had done it.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:51:06 PM   
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With his ego? Nope.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:51:44 PM   
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yes i am..... how could martin have noblood on him? From zimmerman.


It was raining.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/19/2013 11:57:45 PM   
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~smirks

With his ego? Nope.


I assume you know that was the title of OJ's book

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 12:05:48 AM   
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"O. J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here's How It Happened."

The Goldman family changed the title after receiving book rights to...

"If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer"

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 12:07:30 AM   
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Not quite....

"O. J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here's How It Happened."

The Goldman family changed the title after receiving book rights to...

"If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer"

lol


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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 12:54:00 AM   
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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 5:05:58 AM   
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Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?


Easily.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 5:08:06 AM   
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So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?


Trayvon's hands were never tested for DNA, other than scrapings from under the fingernails. Trayvon's hands were also not properly bagged to preserve evidence on them, as his body lay in the rain and wet grass for hours, with nothing more than a tarp thrown over the body at some point.

So, from an evidentiary standpoint, we have no idea what would have been found on Trayvon's hands were they properly preserved and tested.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 7:11:52 AM   
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Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 7:15:22 AM   
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So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?

Zimmerman tries to grab Martin, because he is a cop wannabe and wants to "detain" Martin. Martin punches him. Zimmerman falls down and goes for his pistol. Martin get's on him to try and get control of the gun. Martin yells for help, Zimmerman shoots Martin.

That is more consistent with the evidence than all of Zimmerman's claims.

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RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. - 7/20/2013 7:43:53 AM   
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So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?

Zimmerman tries to grab Martin, because he is a cop wannabe and wants to "detain" Martin. Martin punches him. Zimmerman falls down and goes for his pistol. Martin get's on him to try and get control of the gun. Martin yells for help, Zimmerman shoots Martin.

That is more consistent with the evidence than all of Zimmerman's claims.


Nope. That conflicts with Zimmerman's story, with the witness claiming he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, and with all earwitnesses' claims that the yelling for help was not a one-second thing.

The huge problem with this case is that, with the actual evidence being so lacking, that it is very easy to fit numerous scenarios to fit it. What many people fail to understand is that the paucity of evidence necessarily works against the party who bears the burden of proof, in this case the prosecution.


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