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TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (9/17/2013 12:38:44 PM)
Thanks! The first line was from the duck lip thread. The second one is to bust the myth of fin being jobless leeches. The third one...well, I didn't wanna make the guy who labeled me a liar. Lol. And the last one is SNL mixed with syfy. I try to be entertaining. :)

dink22 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/11/2013 7:01:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CoCoCapitalist So I rarely post to this forum but I had a few personal thoughts that I wanted to express and get some feedback on...I am open to all comments and great conversation...Please leave ignorance and arrogance out of this...Thanks for reading in advance... I am a lifestyle Domme who has recently reached out towards the FinDom community...I find that the FinDom community is more suitable for my needs and more so fits with what I enjoy...I personally have been a Dominant for many years but recently just decided to try the online aspect of the lifestyle...& FinDom just made it so much more enjoyable for ME...What Goddess doesn't enjoy being spoiled?...but I understand that there are scam artist who take advantage of people but what one indulges in is their business and if they choose to do very little homework on someone they plan on embarking on a journey such as a D/s relationship with seems like a personal silly mistake on their behalf... From my personal experience I have come across some great people and have had very good feedback. So far it has been a really awesome experience but I have noticed that on this site in particular there are a great deal of FinDom haters...lol...Meaning they do NOT agree with the way I or others choose to live our lives and they feel the need to voice their opinion...Where I get confused is because all of these individuals have been subs...Contacting ME to be of service to ME but they only want to serve ME the way they want to lololololll when did this start happening...? Ignorant as ever...how can you be of proper use to anyone with a closed mind and a big mouth? ... Also who applies for a job they do NOT want ? Anywho I have gotten very used to weeding through the B.S. and have learned that people will be people and to NOT take anything personal.... But the way I see it is Domination is Domination...A power Exchange is a Power Exchange...but that is the Power Exchange I enjoy most...and to ME as long as the Domme and sub have the proper agreement suitable to their liking the relationship can be very fulfilling...Many people have different fetishes, needs, wants, etc...I have learned that despite a particular group of individuals and/or any titles a D/s relationship is all about finding a great match where both parties get the most out of one another... What are your thoughts on this topic...? You see what you want to see and you believe what you want to believe TRUTH is a disgusting little asshole, that you'd prefer remain out of your sight. Such is financial domination.

TigressLily -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/11/2013 8:19:23 PM)
Possessing authentic personal power is not having to pretend you're powerful. quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: [ORIGINAL: FetishEden] a domme is ALWAYS powerful,hence why she is the dome Gawd. I'd never demand that, nor expect it. Doesn't seem human to me. It isn't. That's why in order for a Dominant to pretend s/he is superhuman, s/he treats others as being subhuman. Almost like a disingenuous role-playing kink unto itself. It's all a big charade. Kind of like brainwashing and being brainwashed because IMO it's a make-believe D/s dynamic. Which is fine as long as the parties involved have a mutual understanding about the fantasy roles they are playing. When the D/s dynamic is reality-based on the whole, there's a world of difference down to the very core of your being which transcends all the play-acting rehearsals. _____________________________ * * * Not A Fetish/Kink Delivery System * * *

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/11/2013 8:35:48 PM)
I agree with that. It's like the saying by Margret Thatcher...something about a woman doesn't have to say she's a woman. Something like that, I forget. But I don't like to see dommes using that lingo. To each their own I suppose.

garyFLR -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/12/2013 9:35:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TNDommeK I agree with that. It's like the saying by Margret Thatcher...something about a woman doesn't have to say she's a woman. Something like that, I forget. But I don't like to see dommes using that lingo. To each their own I suppose. Hi K, I think the Lady T quote was along the lines of, 'if you have to tell people how tough you are, you aren't'. Or something like that anyway xx.

MissKittyDeVine -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/12/2013 9:38:03 AM)
Close, but no 1p giftcard. "Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't."

PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/12/2013 2:42:35 PM)
I always wondered why her supporters would keep stressing, despite all blinding evidence to the contrary, how 'human' she was. [;)]

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/12/2013 3:41:35 PM)
Yea Kitty, that was it!

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:09:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Seems to me, if we "assume" FinDomming is "sexing", then it's no different than prostitution. That's not a value judgement. That's just logic. Maybe you need to look up the legal definitions of "prostitution" I think the laws are behind the times.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:20:12 PM)
"Let's cut to the chase here. In My opinion, there's at least a significant percentage of the people who do their bitching about the kink of financial domination because they want their kinks without having to make a contribution. Not a financial one. Not a relationship one. Not a social one. They just expect to create a profile on the internet and kink is going to fall into their lap. They won't even make the effort to go out to their local kink community to engage in their kinks and would prefer some kind of fetish delivery system would knock on their door. Life doesn't work that way, guys. Get over it. " A very weird generalization here - if you do not like fin domming you are a lay back who expect everything to land in your lap?? Not logical.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:24:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 It doesn't matter what the LEGAL definition of prostitution is. Because that will vary from state to state and country to country. The common sense definition of prostitution is to offer some kind of personal sexual services in exchange for money. C'mon folks. Let's quit kidding ourselves about this stuff. You are right. But then there are - we read here - some cases of financial domination where the there is in fact a relationship, and where control of a person's income is part of the relationship.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:27:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl LOL What we need is to be surrounded by less pious and bible thumping people. [;)] This type of argumentation have always confounded me - if I do not like people's opinions, I sling names after them which I consider insulting...?

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:28:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TNDommeK quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl LOL What we need is to be surrounded by less pious and bible thumping people. [;)] Right! Or people who don't think they are always right just because they say so. well, yes.....

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:45:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I'm gonna set down my popcorn here and make an observation. I think the real problem of the guys who start these Fin-Domme threads is jealousy. A lot of these guys seem to be coming from a less-that-stellar financial position, and it pisses them off when they see the profiles of some hot woman with the CFM pics making all these demands, and the perception that there are guys out there who have the disposable income to indulge in this kink, while they don't. They don't really care about the community at large when they say it's "abuse" or "prostitution", because if they had the chance, they'd be all over it in a heartbeat. The real issue is they can't swing with the big dogs who can play these games, and they're jealous of both parties. Even if it's a bust for the "finducks" and a game for the fin-subs, the whiners seem to think there's an element of fairness they're missing out on here. In short, they want a piece of the action without having to earn it the way the ones who do get to play have. I'll note that I regard myself as an impartial observer to this particular kink, but that's what I think is going on here. I find this way or arguing incomprehensible. If you do not want to pay for nothing, you are jealous???

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:51:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pyramus quote: Even if there were no fin-dommes on this site, you would still have trouble getting laid My personal take on this statement is an observation of the facts, which are that prostitution and findomme and submissives-for-hire exist. The fact they exist clearly means there is an unmet need. The solution is to have MORE financial Dommes and prostitutes and professional subs until equilibrium is finally reached. Or, heaven forbid, for the women in the men's lives to actually meet their unmet needs. Nope, do not agree. The solution is that many things that keep men and women from finding each other gets weeded out of the way. Seeing how a great many men would rather have a real relationship. quote: Note: That latter will never happen, trust me on that, from one who knows all too well the scorecard. Happily do not agree, all depends on conditions where you live, culture, and the creative imaginations and initiatives of the people needing other people.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:55:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPac It could very well be a case of those who don't have the money and/or those who aren't playing when other people have that at their disposal. I wonder how many of the complaints would still be present if those voicing them were involved in dynamics or had regular play partners? [/color] I have a regular play partner and all the opportunity I need to find more, and I still think ill of many kinds of fin domming as described here, though not all. I think this way of arguing is dishonest - try to attack people instead of their opinions.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 3:58:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB why do you feel that you have to defend yourselves like this? I actually think a lot of financial Dommes are far worse than prostitutes. Of course there are exceptions but come on, lets face reality here, most of the girls on here demanding and expecting money for nothing are scum. At least a prostitute gives a man something for his money. She may lead him up the garden path for sex but she doesn't lead him up the garden path, take his money and run. Right on the - money. Defined like this, most people would think it bad. It goes against a certain human instinct.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 4:08:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Thank you for your moral opinion once again. However, your opinion on people's kinks are out of line. You are assuming these men get nothing. And, btw, unless people have had their heads shoved into the sand (which I think many have) they might have noticed there are also male financial dominants lurking about. Putting in an opinion here..No opinion here is out of line - in my moral opinion..they are just opinions. I have never heard anyone here deny that there are male financial dominants, but the topic was about fin dommes, so natural that that is what people discuss. There have been many posts - apparently from fin dommes - who say that they get money for nothing, that is why that is being discussed. quote: I dont buy into the whining that so many do these days about financial domination. Its not your kink, we get it. My kink isnt diapers, you dont see me berating someone who does. My kink isnt golden showers, but thats perfectly acceptable. My kink isnt sleeping around with 20 different men, but we have girls who are just that horny. I gather that it is the 'money for nothing' exploitable aspect that people think is bad. So do I. quote: Is the desperation of male subs the fault of financial dominants? No, but they exploit it. quote: Its really hysterical how, in this day and age, we are still going after the "prostitutes" while leaving the "johns" to lead their merry little lives. I do not think that has anything to do with it. quote: And its so hypocritical of the religious groups to attack the women and not the men. What makes you think that people who disagree with you are a 'religious group'? quote: The one's who come to the boards to bitch, moan, whine and complain are the one's who dont want to pay for it but cannot find anyone else to service them. The language you use could be described in the same terms... quote: So, I think those women who speak out against the financial relationships should step up and take on these fellas and see to their multiple needs.... free of charge. So now you are concerned about their needs??

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 4:14:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB The law is tricky in the UK. Its legal to be a prostitute and its legal to be a pro Domme but it isn't legal to run a brothel. A brothel is seen as more than one prostitute or pro Domme working together which means when a pro Domme doubles with another Domme or shares a dungeon, as in a co-operative, if she gets caught she will be charged for running a brothel. Same in Denmark. I think the law was made that way in order to protect prostitutes from exploitation, that is, no one should take the profit from anther's work, and rooms were rented at exorbitant prices.

egern -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (10/13/2013 4:24:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TigressLily Possessing authentic personal power is not having to pretend you're powerful. quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: [ORIGINAL: FetishEden] a domme is ALWAYS powerful,hence why she is the dome Gawd. I'd never demand that, nor expect it. Doesn't seem human to me. It isn't. That's why in order for a Dominant to pretend s/he is superhuman, s/he treats others as being subhuman. Almost like a disingenuous role-playing kink unto itself. It's all a big charade. Kind of like brainwashing and being brainwashed because IMO it's a make-believe D/s dynamic. Which is fine as long as the parties involved have a mutual understanding about the fantasy roles they are playing. When the D/s dynamic is reality-based on the whole, there's a world of difference down to the very core of your being which transcends all the play-acting rehearsals. _____________________________ * * * Not A Fetish/Kink Delivery System * * * Well said.

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