RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ?

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Pyramus -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:23:08 PM)
quote: Even if there were no fin-dommes on this site, you would still have trouble getting laid My personal take on this statement is an observation of the facts, which are that prostitution and findomme and submissives-for-hire exist. The fact they exist clearly means there is an unmet need. If we assume that most of the clients are male, then we can say that these males have a need that is unmet by the females whom they don't pay. Hence, the "market" exists to exploit that unmet need, and females (Dominate [sic] or submissinate [sic]) will always flock to the role to fill that unmet need. The solution is to have MORE financial Dommes and prostitutes and professional subs until equilibrium is finally reached. Or, heaven forbid, for the women in the men's lives to actually meet their unmet needs. Note: That latter will never happen, trust me on that, from one who knows all too well the scorecard.

searching4mysir -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:26:18 PM)
quote: Or, heaven forbid, for the women in the men's lives to actually meet their unmet needs. In order for that to happen, the men have to be the kind of person that the women WANT to meet their unmet needs. It's either going to cost them time, effort, social skills, etc. or it is going to cost them cash, but it will cost them something.

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:27:53 PM)
This times 1000. Don't be the representative for the first couple of years...be who you were to get her, and be the same man to keep her. Hell hubby get a BJ and a sammich whenever he likes!

PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:37:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir In order for that to happen, the men have to be the kind of person that the women WANT to meet their unmet needs. It's either going to cost them time, effort, social skills, etc. or it is going to cost them cash, but it will cost them something. Earache, mainly.

searching4mysir -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:39:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir In order for that to happen, the men have to be the kind of person that the women WANT to meet their unmet needs. It's either going to cost them time, effort, social skills, etc. or it is going to cost them cash, but it will cost them something. Earache, mainly. For you, it costs the effort to maintain those abs, dearie. [:D]

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:45:17 PM)
Seconded, and that ass! Oh yea and your feelings, personality and stuff. [;)]

MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:50:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir Fin-domme can work in a variety of ways: ultimately it is about controlling finances. A responsible, experienced findomme isn't going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg (so to speak). She may set you up on a budget, she may require you to ask permission before spending money on things other than rent, utilities, etc. (the basics of life). Exactly, and can actually PREVENT financial ruin by controlling a (male OR female) sub's compulsive spending habits, getting their money matters under control, teaching them things like building credit by making sure payments are always made on time, thus enabling them to eventually get their lives back on track, even get to the point where they can purchase a vehicle or house. There are subs who know they have a problem and SEEK this type of FinDomme.

kalikshama -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:51:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Agent99 quote: My man gets sexual satisfaction when I wear stockings, garters, and very high heels. Because he pays for these, am I a prostitute? How can you totally repeatedly miss the point that he has to pay for the sex, not for the stockings? How can you repeatedly miss the point that THERE IS NO SEX between fin dommes and clients?

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:53:13 PM)
Because they aren't trying to hear that. It would fuck up there whole angle of saying PROSTITUTION. [8\|] Even though its been said a million times.

tazzygirl -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:53:26 PM)
I am hoping the admins return your thread. It was an interesting twist on an old theme.

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 1:56:19 PM)
Ok, don't wanna sound stupid but what does "return you thread" mean?

tazzygirl -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 2:00:10 PM)
He started a thread with a twist on the findomme/prostitution thing....

Torabora -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 2:01:14 PM)
quote: How can you repeatedly miss the point that THERE IS NO SEX? Why did you ask the question if you already knew the answer?

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 2:05:28 PM)
Ok, Thanks Tazzy.

LadyPact -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 2:27:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I'm gonna set down my popcorn here and make an observation. I think the real problem of the guys who start these Fin-Domme threads is jealousy. A lot of these guys seem to be coming from a less-that-stellar financial position, and it pisses them off when they see the profiles of some hot woman with the CFM pics making all these demands, and the perception that there are guys out there who have the disposable income to indulge in this kink, while they don't. They don't really care about the community at large when they say it's "abuse" or "prostitution", because if they had the chance, they'd be all over it in a heartbeat. The real issue is they can't swing with the big dogs who can play these games, and they're jealous of both parties. Even if it's a bust for the "finducks" and a game for the fin-subs, the whiners seem to think there's an element of fairness they're missing out on here. In short, they want a piece of the action without having to earn it the way the ones who do get to play have. I'll note that I regard myself as an impartial observer to this particular kink, but that's what I think is going on here. I have to say that this is My suspicion as well. I don't see a whole heck of a lot of these posts that say they are actually against prostitution. Only that they have a problem with the supposed prostitution (which it's not) as it relates to those who engage in BDSM. It could very well be a case of those who don't have the money and/or those who aren't playing when other people have that at their disposal. I wonder how many of the complaints would still be present if those voicing them were involved in dynamics or had regular play partners?

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 2:54:24 PM)
Oh it would quiet as a church mouse in here.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/28/2013 3:35:25 PM)
My point exactly. They either can't afford to do it or are too cheap, or simply desire a Free Fetish Delivery System™ to come to their door. In the short time I've been here, I've already seen a number of profiles that seem to demand precisely that. Some seem to think that democratic and socialistic principles should apply to what is essentially a self-identifying caste system that the scene is at its core. In other words, "If I can't get it for free, no one should be able to get it at all!" Maybe I'm over-analyzing this, but that's what it looks like to me. Back to the popcorn...

MariaB -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/29/2013 1:55:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: ORIGINAL: Agent99 quote: My man gets sexual satisfaction when I wear stockings, garters, and very high heels. Because he pays for these, am I a prostitute? How can you totally repeatedly miss the point that he has to pay for the sex, not for the stockings? How can you repeatedly miss the point that THERE IS NO SEX between fin dommes and clients? But the point was void because she's in a relationships with her man. Although some people compare a wife or lover to a prostitute, its a ridiculous comparison. What I accept but clearly many here can't is, if a woman touts/entices/encourages a person on the internet or otherwise, for money by portraying herself to be a dominant and if that dominant woman shows provocative pictures, or speaks in a way that she knows will excite him, then she is deemed by a good margin of people as offering a sexual service. She doesn't need to feel turned on, she doesn't need to touch his genitals, she doesn't need to meet him in the flesh even. She is offering wank fodder that in most cases would not exist if money or gifts were not involved. Some people will see any sort of sexual service as prostitution and some won't. These people, mainly male subs that are using the word 'prostitute' are well aware there is no sex. Regardless of that they still believe its prostitution.

evesgrden -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/29/2013 6:14:41 AM)
quote: What I accept but clearly many here can't is, if a woman touts/entices/encourages a person on the internet or otherwise, for money by portraying herself to be a dominant and if that dominant woman shows provocative pictures, or speaks in a way that she knows will excite him, then she is deemed by a good margin of people as offering a sexual service. She doesn't need to feel turned on, she doesn't need to touch his genitals, she doesn't need to meet him in the flesh even. She is offering wank fodder that in most cases would not exist if money or gifts were not involved. Some people will see any sort of sexual service as prostitution and some won't. These people, mainly male subs that are using the word 'prostitute' are well aware there is no sex. Regardless of that they still believe its prostitution. Nail. Head. Bang. Jimmy Swaggart lost everything (for a while) because he paid a prostitute to masturbate in front of him. He didn't touch her. Was she working? Yes. Was he paying a prostitute for her services? Yes. Was it criminal? Dunno... that's up to the courts. There are men who pay prostitutes for their time and just talk. No contact. Was the prostitute working? Yes. As a prostitute? Yes. Was it criminal? Dunno. That's up to the courts. I don't think so. If she was not in the sex business he would not have sought her out just as Swaggart would not have sought out the women he paid. There was no fucking no sucking no hand jobs. I see two types of findommes with some overlap. There are those who provide kink-related titillation online in exchange for material reward/compensation, and some of them also have authority over the subissive's finances and get a cut for doing that. Some investment brokers work that way; they get a piece of the pie for investingLike an agent or bookie. Some findommes get a piece of the pie for being the authority on how the submissive spends their money. Then there are dominants who have various amounts of control. Some of them also have oversight over the finances, but they don't expect their submissives to pay them for being in charge of the monies or for arousal-related behaviors. For some reason, I seem to think of pro-dommes as those who relate in person, and are very clear about what they charge for what, and findommes as those whose work is done largely online. I don't know why.. that just happens to be my take on it.

MariaB -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (7/29/2013 7:47:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden For some reason, I seem to think of pro-dommes as those who relate in person, and are very clear about what they charge for what, and findommes as those whose work is done largely online. I don't know why.. that just happens to be my take on it. You are fairly accurate about pro Dommes. They do tend to work in the flesh by appointment. They normally have clearly set prices. They also more often than not, work out of a dungeon and most pro Dommes will have a list of their specialities. This way, a client looking for a rubber session, can look up and make an appointment with a Domme who specializes in rubber.

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