freedomdwarf1
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact I think if you would have started the thread with this specific situation for discussion, this would have been a much different thread. "Kissing" as a general category mixes different elements. People that I know well and have sincere affection for, I'll give them a quick kiss when saying hello or good-bye. I'm also the type to hug friends when meeting or parting. I'd agree that somebody whom I barely know walking up to Me and kissing Me on the lips probably isn't appropriate. It might be if two people had just come home from a date and one person is leaving after walking a woman to her doorstep. If it was the latter and you weren't comfortable with the guy kissing you, I'd have to agree that you should have said something about your discomfort. If you can fill in the details of the circumstances, I'd probably have more to go on. This. No one can automatically know what is and is not acceptable to you unless you communicate. Perhaps a little knowledge of the law helps. In the UK, any uninvited personal contact can be considered a crime. Technically, even that innocent tap on the shoulder prior to "excuse me" can get you prosecuted under various degrees of assault charge from simple assault through assault and battery to aggravated assault and even attempted GBH (grievious bodily harm). That may sound laughable but it is the law here. I have even seen kids as young as 8 successfuly prosecute a teacher or even their parents for inadvertently touching them when attempting to usher them somewhere they didn't want to go. So....that innocent peck-on-the-cheek greeting or a friendly hug?? To some, it really isn't appropriate at all if it is not asked for. You think I'm joking?? "An assault is legally defined as an intentional reckless action causing a person to fear or expect personal violence or immediate unlawful force. An assault can therefore be deemed to take place where there has not been any physical contact, but there is a fear or expectation of violence. Battery is where someone has intentionally or recklessly inflicted unlawful force or personal violence on another. An offence of assault is tried in the magistrates' court, with a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and/or six months' imprisonment. If there is a racial element to the assault, the individual may be charged with racially aggravated assault under Section 29 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998." Also, children over the age of 10 are treated as adults when it comes to assault charges. So technically, you don't even have to physically touch someone to be charged with assault. So, irrespective of nationality, customs, intent, or thinking that some needs to make their boundaries clear to strangers, our laws here are very clear and that needs to be understood by everyone who is on our soil - living here or just visiting. Extreme?? Maybe. Justified?? In many cases, yes. If the recipient of such actions feel that the 'agressor' has over-friendly or sexual intentions, then other parts of that same law cen be brought into play as sexual harassment. The violence comes into play if that same recipient believes they would want to beat the shit out of someone for making unwarranted advances upon them. So the violence, or expected violence, doesn't have to originate from the agressor. quote:
ORIGINAL: LondonLatexGimp Don't come to Europe then. It is customary in many parts to kiss each cheek as a greeting. That said you may be OK in Britain where we've developed the "Air Kiss" to avoid any unwanted human contact. Even this "non-touching" gesture could be construed as an attempt at percieved future assault. quote:
ORIGINAL: Nyteshade13 ok i have to ask what if some one came up to you in a bar(club, coffeehouse....ect) and said that they were dared to kiss someone on the hand/cheek. would you consider that rape? In cases where the recipient did not ask or want that type of attention - then yes, quite possibly. quote:
ORIGINAL: Level It is my customs! Then if you came to the UK, be prepared to be arrested, and possibly jailed, on criminal assault charges.
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