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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

The woman fired into the air for the purpose of protecting her daughter, to scare the attacking boys away. While it's true that anything that goes up comes down, the mother was likely too panicked at the moment to think of that. I think simply warning her not to fire guns in the air and pursuing the boys would've been more appropriate.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEternity

Next time try a baseball bat and turn it into a contact sport.

And before you get pissy please read my whole rant here. You'll understand in a second why I'm up in arms. I know most of the posters here don't know me anymore...I'm an older poster that just gave up and strictly started lurking after 2011 ...I stopped posting years ago because I can't take politics...not even forum drama . . but this one I couldn't not answer. to those that know me, this isn't a resurrection, just a brief sighting. Like the Virgin Mary.

I am a mother. There is nothing I wouldn't do to protect my children. In this article, a large group of teens - boys who are in most cases (and I'm not debating Dom/sub here ...) in most cases are stronger that one girl individually - was surrounding ONE female teen. A MALE was striking that female teen in the face while the others surrounded them. That is a mob. That is illegal under every federal hate and bullying crime that exists. There is no excuse in this world that those teens weren't arrested for assault, bullying, and inciting a riot. Mom WAS reacting to a possible life threatening situation. Instead of lauding her self control that she didn't SHOOT the kid, and arresting those responsible for the start of the violence, our legal system punishes the mother for protecting the daughter? Are we in some kind of back water country where we stone girls for their own rapes too???

I am a mother. Like a tiger or a wolf or a big bear, I am here to protect my children until they can protect themselves. And I do not tolerate or perpetuate ideologies that say "Bad women use weapons. good women don't touch weapons. good women let the boys beat them up. bad woman." If some monkey of a boy is slapping around or bullying my teen, I don't care if he's 17 or 47, I'm charging in with a baseball bat and skulls are getting cracked.

And before anyone gets too offended by my rant . . . 7 months ago my TWELVE year old attempted to commit suicide by swallowing a bottle of benadryl. Over the bullying at school. She's 12. She's been jumped by girls, boys and called the most horrific names . . .I mean things Domiguy wouldn't say to a slime covered protazoa hooking on a corner. If I ever catch one of those kids putting their hands on her, you better believe I'm going to put a stop to it. Physically if necessary to get them off of her. Shooting in the air? What goes up comes down? Seriously? My baseball bat causes more damage coming down on flesh, trust me.

Now this woman's child has disappeared. DISAPPEARED. So she's either run away to be safe, committed suicide or been kidnapped by one of those violent teens who were hurting her. While the cops were defending backward Bad Woman morality instead of the law, did these future psychos get their hands on this girl? These bullies, these teen age boys, they are the ones that in 5 or 10 years will be arrested for the third time for beating their wife or kids. Or in jail for killing one of them. Roses don't heal bruises and not punishing abusive teens doesn't not save the women they will harm later.

Ok.. I apologize if this rant ticks anyone off. But This article really ticked me off. I almost lost my child to bullies that probably are just like those teen age boys started out to be. At 12 these kids can drive a child to suicide. Please, don't support the bullies. Support the parents trying to protect their children.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEternity

@crazyml - here are some other news articles for comparison. I agree, it looks like they charged her for firing a gun she was legally licensed to carry in the air. To me the charge sounds like illegal use of a fire arm. My brother (a deputy sheriff who also runs the shooting range in his department) says this won't stand up in court, she can prove A she was licensed and B she was acting in self-defense of a minor and he's really surprised they charged her. Here in IL this would make a juicy lawsuit against the police. Esp since the girl is missing and the boys are still at large.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/virginia-mother-charged-after-firing-gunshots-air-protect-daughter-attackers

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=280096

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

FR

Not Virginia, but I find this from a Fla attorney instructive.

Under the statute, you can claim it as a defense to the charge if you were legally defending your life or your property.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

FR

Not Virginia, but I find this from a Fla attorney instructive.

Under the statute, you can claim it as a defense to the charge if you were legally defending your life or your property.

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Just because you can claim it, doesn't mean it will be accepted. It would depend on the circumstances.

There is no legal standard I'm aware of that allows you to shoot an innocent bystander to scare off an attacker. And it is simply a matter of the odds as to whether or not an airborne bullet strikes someone. Slim odds, but still a rational possibility in any populated area.

Sounds like the proverbial slap on the wrist, is her good luck this time.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

FR

Not Virginia, but I find this from a Fla attorney instructive.

Under the statute, you can claim it as a defense to the charge if you were legally defending your life or your property.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

The woman fired into the air for the purpose of protecting her daughter, to scare the attacking boys away. While it's true that anything that goes up comes down, the mother was likely too panicked at the moment to think of that. I think simply warning her not to fire guns in the air and pursuing the boys would've been more appropriate.

She was held for only a short period and was released without bond. It sounds like she's looking at a fine at worst. The fact of the matter is guns can be very dangerous if not used safely and she used hers in a very unsafe manner so society has a vested interest in discouraging that sort of behavior.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
She used a gun. That makes her a bad person. They should lock her up and throw away the key.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
She used a gun. That makes her a bad person. They should lock her up and throw away the key.

Firing a gun into the air like Biden recommended is recklessly disregarding the safety of innocent bystanderds. If one's going to use a deadly weapon they damn well should be held responsible to use it properly.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Just because you can claim it, doesn't mean it will be accepted. It would depend on the circumstances.

There is no legal standard I'm aware of that allows you to shoot an innocent bystander to scare off an attacker. And it is simply a matter of the odds as to whether or not an airborne bullet strikes someone. Slim odds, but still a rational possibility in any populated area.

Sounds like the proverbial slap on the wrist, is her good luck this time.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

FR

Not Virginia, but I find this from a Fla attorney instructive.

Under the statute, you can claim it as a defense to the charge if you were legally defending your life or your property.

Was she supposed to just stand there and watch her daughter being beaten.