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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/15/2014 11:43:47 AM

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And let's face it- most of us aren't really "slaves".

I would hope that NONE of us are really slaves, since it's illegal, abusive and violates basic human rights.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/15/2014 2:38:34 PM

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Master and I don't have intention of getting married anytime soon...

Ah, my bad. Actually I knew that but honestly you and he talk like such a unit it's predictable I'd get confused on the details. At some point the written piece of paper doesn't really matter.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/15/2014 2:45:53 PM

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Master and I don't have intention of getting married anytime soon...

Ah, my bad. Actually I knew that but honestly you and he talk like such a unit it's predictable I'd get confused on the details. At some point the written piece of paper doesn't really matter.

At one point in time that piece of paper is the cheaper option, compared to updating your will and power of attorney all the time. After we did it, I asked myself why I was worried to do it for 10 years, since really nothing major changed, just a bunch of bureaucratic things got easier. Being the cynic that I am, I still maintain that a mutual mortgage is far more binding than that slip of paper that says you are legally a couple.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/15/2014 9:02:32 PM

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I do have a very strong sense of what constitutes fair play, just treatment and honourable conduct. And I think most people do.

I can't remember who said it here, but I think it's a good way to judge.
And that's to look at, "Where is the money going?"

As Master says "This is not a democracy. It's not supposed to be fair".

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/15/2014 9:07:20 PM

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Master and I don't have intention of getting married anytime soon...

Ah, my bad. Actually I knew that but honestly you and he talk like such a unit it's predictable I'd get confused on the details. At some point the written piece of paper doesn't really matter.

At one point in time that piece of paper is the cheaper option, compared to updating your will and power of attorney all the time. After we did it, I asked myself why I was worried to do it for 10 years, since really nothing major changed, just a bunch of bureaucratic things got easier. Being the cynic that I am, I still maintain that a mutual mortgage is far more binding than that slip of paper that says you are legally a couple.

I guess for us this is rather a simple thing and I never have to update anything since I have a grown adult daughter who is on everything and Master is well aware of that and agrees that is how it should be. I make my life as simple as possible so I never have to worry about this kind of stuff.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/16/2014 4:10:23 AM

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We both don't have children, we own the company together, so there are just some technicalities that made things a bit more complicated, for example when we changed something with the company, we had to update the wills, when I was for months at a time in the US and one of the pets needed surgery, I had to fax permission as they were in my name and we weren't married, now something could always happen, he might be abroad or I might be abroad, power of attorney is not limitless but always has to be specified for what, all those little hurdles just disappear with that piece of paper stating you are legally a couple. Also with me going to the US a lot, they tend to prefer it if you're married since they have the absurd idea any unmarried woman will grab the next American man and marry him to be able to live in the US (they obviously don't get out a lot).

I don't think we rushed into it, we knew each other for 10 years and had lived together for 6 or 7 years, it was a simple choice to make our lives easier and reduce a bunch of time consuming and annoying paperwork. We didn't have much bells and whistles, 2 friends as witnesses, no flowers, no rings, just "Where do we sign?" then we went to the pub for a quick drink. I think we spent the rest of the day working. The funny thing was that the registry office had moved to the town hall and we were the 1st or 2nd couple there to get married, and they were hoping for something a bit more elaborate, kept asking us if we want special vows, to say a poem, if anybody wants to sing, how we'd like the ring exchange (long faces when we told them "no rings, just keep it very simple and let's get it over with")

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/16/2014 5:17:11 AM

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I see this as falling into basically two different situations.

The first is when it's a decision freely made by an intelligent adult about what they want from a relationship. In which case it comes under the category of "weird stuff that other people are into". There's a lot of it.

The second is when it's a destructive relationship and generally a bad idea. In which case, quite honestly, that person is obviously prone to bad relationship decisions and that would apply equally if it wasn't a BDSM relationship. Adults have a 'right' to be fucking stupid.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/16/2014 5:33:41 AM

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Well stated, Apocalypso.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/16/2014 5:41:46 AM

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Apocalypso has the ability to quickly cut to the chase and then nail it.

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RE: Slavery and Profit... - 2/16/2014 6:10:05 AM

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True, but when I read his line how adults have the right to do stupid things, I couldn't help wondering why some insist on abusing that right...

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