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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 6:55:19 PM   
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Being who I am, and being around a lot of people, you see a lot of LGBT people wrestling with themselves,it is why there are those who seek the reparative therapy bullshit, it is why you see a lot of tortured folk running around all uber religious, condemning others, and often it comes out they are different and trying to make it go away..instead of being what it should be, a thing of comfort, it is an instrument of torture, in that it claims to hold out hope of salvation, but it also says to be saved you better act like the reverend Billy Bob yells in church every sunday about...this guy probably has desires, but then gets guilt (usually happens after masturbating), then feels like he has to save himself and anyone else around him or he'll burn....it is sad, and so unnecessary. Fortunately, there are a lot of churches and religious leaders who have come to realize that sex has many different forms, people do, and it is okay, if they are living their lives as they wish and they are helping people. Those running the Catholic Church are living in the dark ages, but most Catholics don't share those beliefs, and many priests don't either, they ignore the cretins running the show and make people welcome, and the same is true in mainstream protestant churches as well.

I am glad the OP broke off contact with the guy, someone like that is dangerous as hell, take it from me, someone like that can get into their mind pretty easily that if you can't be saved, he personally will send you to hell, happens a lot with conflicted people, I know of 2 or 3 trans gals who ran into someone conflicted like that (guys wanting to date them), who got religion, denounced what they had done, and when they wouldn't "see the light" ended up in trouble, one of them was bludgeoned to death by a guy saying he was going to save her.....

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 6:58:55 PM   
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And turning the other cheek Lorraine?

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:01:47 PM   
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If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



I believe she is on the welfare system. Could be wrong though.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:05:16 PM   
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Then pray do tell me, where do the people go who don't go to heaven? Is there another place for them but hell? So please tell me the "other place" you were thinking of where non-believers go?

If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



1. As my pastor tells us, it's our duty to spread the good word but we do not judge. Only God does that. So you will have to aks Him.
2. If you re-read my post, I never said I was calling you "a stupid moronic b*tch." I wrote, "How would you like it if I accused you of calling me a stupid moronic b*tch because you're inferring it?"
3. I feel like I'm being drawn into a name calling dialogue. I've read your other posts and you can be very critical and harsh. I've also seen where you call people names and the moderator has to delete your post.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:07:58 PM   
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Then pray do tell me, where do the people go who don't go to heaven? Is there another place for them but hell? So please tell me the "other place" you were thinking of where non-believers go?

If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



1. As my pastor tells us, it's our duty to spread the good word but we do not judge. Only God does that. So you will have to aks Him.
2. If you re-read my post, I never said I was calling you "a stupid moronic b*tch." I wrote, "How would you like it if I accused you of calling me a stupid moronic b*tch because you're inferring it?"
3. I feel like I'm being drawn into a name calling dialogue. I've read your other posts and you can be very critical and harsh. I've also seen where you call people names and the moderator has to delete your post.

I've never known one of Lady C's posts to be Mod deleted.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:08:32 PM   
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I believe she is on the welfare system. Could be wrong though.


This post isn't about me so please do not talk about me. I'm answering questions people are aksing of me. I'm drawn into this sidetracked thread.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:09:55 PM   
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Then pray do tell me, where do the people go who don't go to heaven? Is there another place for them but hell? So please tell me the "other place" you were thinking of where non-believers go?

If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



1. As my pastor tells us, it's our duty to spread the good word but we do not judge. Only God does that. So you will have to aks Him.
2. If you re-read my post, I never said I was calling you "a stupid moronic b*tch." I wrote, "How would you like it if I accused you of calling me a stupid moronic b*tch because you're inferring it?"
3. I feel like I'm being drawn into a name calling dialogue. I've read your other posts and you can be very critical and harsh. I've also seen where you call people names and the moderator has to delete your post.

I've never known one of Lady C's posts to be Mod deleted.


Yep, I think you're confusing LadyC with me.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:10:15 PM   
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If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



I believe she is on the welfare system. Could be wrong though.



Well that would be quite errr, an odd twist so to speak, but might explain a lot...

Though it still wouldn't answer this:

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Then pray do tell me, where do the people go who don't go to heaven? Is there another place for them but hell? So please tell me the "other place" you were thinking of where non-believers go?


Because I don't think that the bible or Christianity has this 3rd place, and according to Lorraine "The Bible does say that you go to heaven by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior" (though I believe it's spelled saviour) pretty much rules out that anybody who's a non-believer enters the pearly gates, I never read about a 3rd place apart from heaven and hell (well there is purgatory but that is sort of intermediate hell for purification for those who have not reached a significant level of holiness), so there really isn't much else... I wish she'd tell me where I go, she might know some secret place?

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:10:36 PM   
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This is why it's important to go to church, with a good pastor. The pastor will guide you which are cultural references for that time and that which is inspirational. Many passages are just reflecting the current culture.

I am not a pastor nor do I have any degrees in theology. So I can't accurately answer your questions. However, I can find a good pastor for you to aks these questions. Or maybe someone in this community who is college educated can answer your questions.

Are you saying that the Bible is a document that can be cherry picked to one's convenience?

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:12:02 PM   
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If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



I believe she is on the welfare system. Could be wrong though.


You are correct.


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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:15:22 PM   
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Then pray do tell me, where do the people go who don't go to heaven? Is there another place for them but hell? So please tell me the "other place" you were thinking of where non-believers go?

If you want to call me a "a stupid moronic b*tch" then I would be forced to laugh into your face and tell you that the fact that you have babies from different fathers without being a widow would have had you stoned, according to the bible. Well at least you seem to have a good job to be able to afford to look after your family while the fathers (you did use the plural here) of the babies in jail. Which makes me guess that you do have a good education and secured a pretty good job because families aren't cheap. If hubby and I had 5 kids with only one of us working, we'd have to downgrade quite a bit, so kudos to you!



1. As my pastor tells us, it's our duty to spread the good word but we do not judge. Only God does that. So you will have to aks Him.
2. If you re-read my post, I never said I was calling you "a stupid moronic b*tch." I wrote, "How would you like it if I accused you of calling me a stupid moronic b*tch because you're inferring it?"
3. I feel like I'm being drawn into a name calling dialogue. I've read your other posts and you can be very critical and harsh. I've also seen where you call people names and the moderator has to delete your post.



Seems you do plenty of judging, especially about who is allowed into heaven, still curious where I go if I don't go into hell, because according to your own words, I won't go into heaven. So if you don't mind, name the "other" place where non-believers go if it isn't hell?

As far as I know, ONE of my posts was deleted, and I don't believe I was harsh to you, I asked you some simple questions that you didn't answer. And I did tell you what I *would* be forced to say if you *would* call me a " a stupid moronic b*tch" since you obviously would never call me that, I wouldn't be forced to question how your morals and the bible tie in.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:20:27 PM   
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Without trying to sidetrack,

That doesn't seem like a sidetrack to me as it's about how Christianity interfaces with BDSM.

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but if a deity who - according to their book of faith - created people in his image, wouldn't that include sexual urges and orientation? In short if this deity, who's all powerful, would not like to have gays or people into BDSM, wouldn't he just stop creating them?

As I understand it original sin is to blame. Eating the apple changed not only Adam and Eve but all their decedents and somehow altered all of Creation which is how so many things can be an abomination in the eyes of God.

For example:

Question> Why would God make shellfish if he hates shellfish so much?

Answer> That's the fault of humans not God, human fucked everything up. Which is why you deserve to be tortured forever.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:23:05 PM   
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Without trying to sidetrack,

That doesn't seem like a sidetrack to me as it's about how Christianity interfaces with BDSM.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
but if a deity who - according to their book of faith - created people in his image, wouldn't that include sexual urges and orientation? In short if this deity, who's all powerful, would not like to have gays or people into BDSM, wouldn't he just stop creating them?

As I understand it original sin is to blame. Eating the apple changed not only Adam and Eve but all their decedents and somehow altered all of Creation which is how so many things can be an abomination in the eyes of God.

For example:

Question> Why would God make shellfish if he hates shellfish so much?

Answer> That's the fault of humans not God, human fucked everything up. Which is why you deserve to be tortured forever.



But the original sin doesn't seem to exist anymore since even the Pope (can't go much higher) accepted evolution, so if I was a believer, the supreme court of faith has made a ruling...

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:31:11 PM   
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Seems you do plenty of judging, especially about who is allowed into heaven, still curious where I go if I don't go into hell.
I never judged you and I don't judge people. Only God is allowed to do this. As I have said before, you will have to aks God.

As far as I know, ONE of my posts was deleted, and I don't believe I was harsh to you,
You were harsh and critical even though it wasn't towards me.

I asked you some simple questions that you didn't answer.
As I wrote before that I'm not college educated in Theology and I'm unable to answer your questions. Someone else did make a post that answered some of your questions.

And I did tell you what I *would* be forced to say if you *would* call me a " a stupid moronic b*tch" since you obviously would never call me that, I wouldn't be forced to question how your morals and the bible tie in.
I never said I was going to call you a "stupid moronic b*tch." I said how would you like it if I accused you of calling me this?

It seems to me that you put words in my mouth, misquote me, and draw people into name calling. Are you even reading my responses?


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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:37:25 PM   
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Seems you do plenty of judging, especially about who is allowed into heaven, still curious where I go if I don't go into hell.
I never judged you and I don't judge people. Only God is allowed to do this. As I have said before, you will have to aks God.

As far as I know, ONE of my posts was deleted, and I don't believe I was harsh to you,
You were harsh and critical even though it wasn't towards me.

I asked you some simple questions that you didn't answer.
As I wrote before that I'm not college educated in Theology and I'm unable to answer your questions. Someone else did make a post that answered some of your questions.

And I did tell you what I *would* be forced to say if you *would* call me a " a stupid moronic b*tch" since you obviously would never call me that, I wouldn't be forced to question how your morals and the bible tie in.
I never said I was going to call you a "stupid moronic b*tch." I said how would you like it if I accused you of calling me this?

It seems to me that you put words in my mouth, misquote me, and draw people into name calling. Are you even reading my responses?


You mean like you saying that she was inferring that you were a "stupid moronic bitch"?

She's poking holes in your posts with logic. You responded with something that attempted to put words in her mouth.








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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 7:38:06 PM   
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Seems you do plenty of judging, especially about who is allowed into heaven, still curious where I go if I don't go into hell.
I never judged you and I don't judge people. Only God is allowed to do this. As I have said before, you will have to aks God.

As far as I know, ONE of my posts was deleted, and I don't believe I was harsh to you,
You were harsh and critical even though it wasn't towards me.

I asked you some simple questions that you didn't answer.
As I wrote before that I'm not college educated in Theology and I'm unable to answer your questions. Someone else did make a post that answered some of your questions.

And I did tell you what I *would* be forced to say if you *would* call me a " a stupid moronic b*tch" since you obviously would never call me that, I wouldn't be forced to question how your morals and the bible tie in.
I never said I was going to call you a "stupid moronic b*tch." I said how would you like it if I accused you of calling me this?

It seems to me that you put words in my mouth, misquote me, and draw people into name calling. Are you even reading my responses?





Sorry dear, YOU said only people who accept Jesus as the saviour go to heaven, since you seem to be so sure about that, you just MUST know where I go, since you also claim you didn't say hell...

As for harsh and critical, if you think so you would be able to mention what I said? I hope your memory doesn't let you down...

You seem to have no problems talking about religion, then why can't you answer a few simple questions? I am not expecting a dissertation, and I think I asked YOU.

As for misquoting you, how would I do that when I actually do quote you? I believe your exact words were those in quotes, as I did a copy and paste, and if you read carefully (you might want to do it slowly and at your leisure) in no way, shape or form was I calling you what was in quotes, I believe - if you go back you'll see that I'm correct in this - that those charming words floated out of your fingertips. So are you trying to tell a little porkie here?

ETA: I do read your responses and I am trying my best to make sense of them (it's not easy), I do wonder if we are speaking the same language, I mean English is my 3rd language and maybe you aren't a native speaker and that might be the root of the problem?

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 8:14:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is funny, I wish people would read the whole bible before making statements like "you have to accept Jesus as your savior to go to heaven". That whole credal stuff in large part came about after Jesus time, and a lot of it is in the book of John, which in many ways totally changed Jesus message, from living into God into belief being everything. It is one of the fundamental problems I have with Dogma and orthodoxy, where belief in the words trumps living into them.....all those people who claim Jesus as a buddy and act like shits in their lives think cause Jesus is their buddy, they go to heaven.

First of all, the Hebrew Scripture, which is part of the bible, clearly lays out that righteousness is not to be found in believing the right things or worshipping in the right way alone, but rather in how you live. Soddom and Gomorrah were punished primarily because of ill treatment of visitors and those not from the cities, and the OT is full of warnings about not treating others right. Jesus makes clear in parables and teachings that for example the Samaritan, who to most Jews were considered pariahs, could be more righteous then the truest believer, because of their actions. The idea that belief alone gets you to heaven is quite honestly bad theology, because as a friend of mine pointed out if you act the way you are supposed to, that means in a sense you have accepted Jesus, because you are living into his teachings, or trying to. Belief alone is complete, utter bullshit, I realize that church leaders have claimed that, the right wing mafia running the Catholic Church with the ascension of JPII, where they turned catholicism into rigid orthodoxy and being anti gay and anti abortion most certainly did, there are plenty of rich businessmen who piously will tell you how Jesus is their man, yet they also got wealthy by less than Christian activity......put it this way, what kind of God would condemn someone to the pits of hell who otherwise is a decent person, simply because they didn't believe the right thing? No God that could be called loving, that is for sure, and on the other hand, what God would let the heads of the medieval church, or Adolph Hitler who was a professed Catholic, or those who slaughtered men,women and children in Crusades, innocent or not, into heaven simply because they believed the right things? Not to mention that there are plenty of people who follow Jesus, who believe he was something special, who don't buy into the whole traditional story, nor do they believe it is as easy as saying the right things and so forth...

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 8:26:33 PM   
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It's just if somebody says that only a believer can go into heaven, that more or less only leaves hell for the rest, and if I want an answer to where I go to and said person wiggles and waggles, tries to twist words and uses every excuse in the book, even accusing me of putting words into said person's mouth (when I actually do quote), I tend to get a bit insistent on getting my answers...

While being agnostic, I'm not anti-religious, it's not for me but if anybody finds something in a religion that makes their life easier (like somebody losing a loved one and hoping to see said loved one in an afterlife), it's perfectly fine by me, I can respect that a belief is important to another person, only when somebody tries to preach, use fire and brimstone and refusal to heaven as fear tactics, I get rather stroppy, just like when said religion causes problems for people due to the way they are wired, you don't pick to be gay, to be transgender, to be SM, you're wired that way, if a religion tries to make somebody's life even harder (and I have a few transgender friends, they certainly didn't want to go the really rocky and hard road), that is when I have a real issue with it, and when I have to say "This cool guy Jesus, he'd effing hate you because you're a horrible person!" Again, I can only quote John Fugelsang who said it pretty well "Love Elvis, love Jesus, but their fanclubs scare me!"

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 8:30:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am so tired of the whole 'no mixed fabrics' thing. You can mix silk and ramie. You can mix polyester and cotton. You cannot however mix linen and wool. For any other combos, feel free.

As linen is the most flammable fabric, I don't recommend wearing it in any form. The death rate of colonial women who burned to death from wearing linen aprons while cooking is frightening.

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RE: Christianity and BDSM - 3/4/2014 8:35:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

First of I'd like to apologize to the original poster for my post that looks to be sidetracking her discussion. I was hoping to spur some contemplation not start a conversation. I don't think we should have any of the classic theism/atheism/belief conversations here, it's the wrong thread and the wrong forum.

Don't get me wrong I think these discussions are really important for our particular community because of how damaging a number of all too common religious beliefs are to those with alternative lifestyles, examples ranging from the male sub we've been discussing, to pg4g's journey, to how my girl still struggles to accept her own sexuality.

That's why I'm prone to talking religion on this particular site and why if you'd like me (or if anyone else would) to weigh in on that question or whatnot I'd be happy to over in politics and religion.


Just wanted to say that it was cool how you handled yourself here, GotSteel, and for not jumping in to stir up the pot and what could easily become a hornet's nest and get this whole thread locked (term?), which would be a great disservice to ThePrincessKali and many others.

I've only skipped around a tiny bit over there in Politics and Religion as a reader, btw, where it would appear the slogan over there is "Stop making sh!t up."

To nobody in particular, two wrongs don't make a right. This topic started out about judgmentalism, hypocrisy, and petty attempts at shaming another. I trust we can all act like mature adults here without resorting to mud-slinging. If not, then this thread needs to be moved over to P&R along with the rest of the fanatics. (Not saying everyone over there is, but some of them know who they are.)

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