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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 6:25:44 PM   
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Actually it does to some degree. I had the impression that the poster I was responding too thinks because of this and other cases, he has a particular flavor of gun control that will help in stopping these kinds of shootings. I'm sure you've noticed that its mostly the same ones who favor some kind of additional gun control measures who are always condemning the shooter. Speaking for myself I would go out of my way not to shoot someone for any reason. I would run, back away or whatever. However I wasn't there and we don't have all the details. As usual, some people are putting thoughts in this guys head and making shit up.


How in the hell is ammo going to stop this kind of shooting?

It's not. lovmuf didn't like the question I asked, and so ran with an irrelevant tangent pulled from one of the examples of a completely different point.

Posting as usual here.


I went back and read your postings and I can't seem to find a question. If you have one though I'll be happy to answer you with out any snark.

When I asked you a question about stamping ammo, you said I should know all about with a dose of snark thrown in. I confess that I didn't so I looked it up. Maybe you just didn't like my less than enthusiastic response to it.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 6:37:58 PM   
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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 6:44:12 PM   
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A. We don't know he didn't go for the gun.
B. We don't know it didn't look exactly like going for the gun.
C. We don't know the father couldn't instantly think of something else the kid had in mind.
D. We do know that anyone who makes a sudden move when a gun is being held on them
is an idiot.
E. We also know that if the father was looking to shoot him he would have been dead before
that happened.


I see you are channelling Donald Rumsfeld now....

we don't know he didn't
we don't know it didn't
we don't know he couldn't

seems like there's an awful lot of things "we" don't know.

One thing we do know, there's going to be a funeral for a kid

Anjelika was quite happy to base an argument on what we don't know I was
pointing out what else we didn't know, good for the goose good for the gander.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:21:27 PM   
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Maybe it's STILL off topic. You weren't doing so well with logic back there.

Have you come up with seven cases yet?

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:37:06 PM   
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Maybe it's STILL off topic. You weren't doing so well with logic back there.


I think I laid out why I disagree with what you posted. All I get from you is snark and obfuscation. If you see any fault in my logic or if you have a question then by all means share it with everyone.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:54:23 PM   
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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:55:25 PM   
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Maybe it's STILL off topic. You weren't doing so well with logic back there.

Have you come up with seven cases yet?

You should actually read the thread before posting. Far ahead of you.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:57:47 PM   
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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 7:59:41 PM   
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Maybe it's STILL off topic. You weren't doing so well with logic back there.

Have you come up with seven cases yet?

You should actually read the thread before posting. Far ahead of you.

Give me the post number with the specific cases you thought were justified unless you are
once again hiding behind vague generalizations.
Stating that you favor self defense without finding one case we have discussed does not count.
At a minimum you have to admit that your proclamation that I have always backed the man with
the gun was grossly inaccurate.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:07:51 PM   
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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:08:54 PM   
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No you didn't. You can keep telling me that all you want but it doesn't make it true. I guess you believe it though.

Back at ya.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:09:01 PM   
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Again, read the thread. Far ahead of you.



Again give me the post, if it exists.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:10:10 PM   
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Oh FFS.

Now you're just going to pretend.

Yawn.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:10:17 PM   
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Again, read the thread. Far ahead of you.



Not the admission that you were wrong about my stands.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:11:23 PM   
Musicmystery


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You ask, people respond . . . see how that works?

Enjoy.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:11:37 PM   
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Oh FFS.

Now you're just going to pretend.

Yawn.

Smug doesn't cut it, if you won't back what you say I have no choice but to accept that you can't.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:12:35 PM   
Musicmystery


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R....e.....a.......d..........

Maybe have someone read it to you?

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:14:08 PM   
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Damn you're lazy. Read the damn thread.

You ask, people respond . . . see how that works?

Enjoy.

I was in this thread from the beginning you never mentioned even one specific shooting
you thought was justified, you may hang around with people this superiority crap works with
but your not there anymore.

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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:15:13 PM   
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Would it help if I spelled it???

R....e.....a.......d..........

Maybe have someone read it to you?

Give me one case you have ever said was a justified shooting
see how easy it is?


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RE: Another shooting of an unarmed teen... - 3/19/2014 8:16:27 PM   
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Would it help if I spelled it???

R....e.....a.......d..........

Maybe have someone read it to you?

And you are still proven wrong in your proclamation of my stands, gain a little credibility and own up to it.

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