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ORIGINAL: Politesub
Lets have some fun with the first sentance of the OP...... Salisbury is said to have stated he wanted a rifle in every cottage and then started gun control ?

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Politesub
Lets have some fun with the first sentance of the OP...... Salisbury is said to have stated he wanted a rifle in every cottage and then started gun control ?

Ok lets..........

First off Salisbury didn't say anything, Salisbury is city in England and doesn't have vocal cords.

But Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury Did say that.

A couple of links for you.

http://www.sunray22b.net/firearms_act_1920.htm

http://www.carlisle-courier.com/Archive/20130123/columns.htm

I can't find anything in the OP that reads he started gun control.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Politesub
Lets have some fun with the first sentance of the OP...... Salisbury is said to have stated he wanted a rifle in every cottage and then started gun control ?

Ok lets..........

First off Salisbury didn't say anything, Salisbury is city in England and doesn't have vocal cords.

But Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury Did say that.

A couple of links for you.

http://www.sunray22b.net/firearms_act_1920.htm

http://www.carlisle-courier.com/Archive/20130123/columns.htm

I can't find anything in the OP that reads he started gun control.

English lesson 101........ Salisbury was quite commonly known just as Salisbury, thats not unusual with the Lords and Ladies.

Your usual trick of lying and spin doesnt wash. The OP`s link clearly states "It was the first toe over a slippery slope towards complete firearms prohibition."

Anyone who doesnt consider thata suggest he started gun control must be a bit dense, what say you.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Politesub
Lets have some fun with the first sentance of the OP...... Salisbury is said to have stated he wanted a rifle in every cottage and then started gun control ?

Ok lets..........

First off Salisbury didn't say anything, Salisbury is city in England and doesn't have vocal cords.

But Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury Did say that.

A couple of links for you.

http://www.sunray22b.net/firearms_act_1920.htm

http://www.carlisle-courier.com/Archive/20130123/columns.htm

I can't find anything in the OP that reads he started gun control.

English lesson 101........ Salisbury was quite commonly known just as Salisbury, thats not unusual with the Lords and Ladies.

Your usual trick of lying and spin doesnt wash. The OP`s link clearly states "It was the first toe over a slippery slope towards complete firearms prohibition."

Anyone who doesnt consider that suggests he started gun control must be a bit dense, what say you.

Edits to add......Your links are bullshit, try showing anything from a proper source, maybe even from the UK. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Isn't selectively misleading editing a ToS violation?
The entire relevant quote from the OPs source appears to be:

Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury said he would "laud the day when there was a rifle in every cottage in England". However in 1903 Britain passed its first ever "gun control" law, a minor one requiring a permit to carry a handgun and restricting the age of purchasers. It was the first toe over a slippery slope towards complete firearms prohibition.

The idea that anyone literate thinks the last sentence of that quote applies to the Minister is simply not credible.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

Oh good, so you need a UK link. When I googled for more information I found a crap load of links but if they're not good enough for you, tuff titties. It seems as though it's common knowledge to me. But go ahead, keep denying he actually said it.

And nowhere does it state he started gun control. You can't just infer something and call that an inaccuracy. Try again.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Accepting bullshit sources (Mostly US pro-gun websites and/or blogs)...

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I suggest if you wish to make snidey digs you at least check your facts, start with reading about the 1903 Pistols act.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

I can't get the link to work Polite.

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I suggest if you wish to make snidey digs you at least check your facts, start with reading about the 1903 Pistols act.

You mean the one passed more than a year after Robert Gascoyne-Cecil left office?

That 1903 Pistols Act?

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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I suggest if you wish to make snidey digs you at least check your facts, start with reading about the 1903 Pistols act.

You mean the one passed more than a year after Robert Gascoyne-Cecil left office?

That 1903 Pistols Act?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

I can't get the link to work Polite.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/greatbritain.php

The site is not letting me post the link.

Where the asterisks are type loc.gov. If that fails use Google and search for 1903 firearm law.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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I suggest if you wish to make snidey digs you at least check your facts, start with reading about the 1903 Pistols act.

You mean the one passed more than a year after Robert Gascoyne-Cecil left office?

That 1903 Pistols Act?

He can't come up with anything he can prove is inaccurate in the OP. So now that he's backed into a corner he throws out BS like not wanting to repeat himself because he said it before and I should go do a search for some nonexistent thing he supposedly said on this forum once upon a time. Then he makes an inference and calls it inaccurate. Now you caught him again with another point of fact. I wonder what kind of BS he's going to come up with this time.

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History of Firearms Law

Early Regulation

Early acts regulating the ownership of firearms were fairly limited. The Gun Licenses Act 1870 and the Pistols Act 1903 served primarily as Acts to generate revenue and required owners to hold a license from the post office. The system was described as generally ineffective.[4] In 1920, the Firearms Act[5] was passed, to stop firearms from being used by criminals and “other evilly disposed or irresponsible persons.”[6] While one aim of the restriction was to curb violent crime, it was believed that other reasons included concerns over uprisings in Russia spilling over into Britain, particularly with the end of World War I and the return of thousands of troops trained in the use of firearms and an increase in the number of such weapons in circulation.[7] This Act set out the basis for the licensing system of firearms that is still in operation today, providing the chief officer of police in the district the applicant lives with the authority to issue licenses. When enacting this legislation, the right to bear arms by citizens was considered; however, “this was countered by the argument that such redress was adequately obtainable through the ballot box and by access to Parliament and the courts.”[8] Further controls were introduced in 1937 to allow conditions to be attached to certificates and to place more stringent restrictions on particularly dangerous weapons such as machine guns.[9]

The laws were consolidated and amended in 1968 with the enactment of the Firearms Act, which is the legislation still used today.

Modern Developments in Firearms Legislation

The development of major changes in modern day firearms legislation in Britain has generally been preceded by tragedy and a change in public attitude and opinion towards the ownership of firearms.

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I wonder what kind of BS he's going to come up with this time.