BamaD
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"Most of the gun violence in this city is kids with guns shooting at other kids with guns. "
And your gun ban did so much good so I guess this gun hating is just crap.
Yes, it is amazing. the same worthless scum that run the pot and coke up from Texas bring in cheap guns they buy on the way and sell right along with the drugs. Every time they bust a drug shipment they always find a bunch of guns too.
Now the question is why are there gun dealers selling trunk loads of guns to the same people every few days and getting away with it?
Left wing myth that defies reason.
DC used that excuse so does Chicago.
So why don't the places the guns come from have as high a crime rate?
Is it some vile right wing conspiracy against progressive cities?
Or is it because only the bad guys have guns?
Or maybe the law there thinks like you and if you aren't bleeding it isn't self defense.
Based on the rate of executions in Texas they do. They just spread it out more. So maybe you should stop the bullshit. Texas is exceptionally well armed and has a busy death chamber so guns do not work as deterrent. That is simple fact.
No they don't.
Crime always goes down when ccw laws are passed that is a simple fact.
So your rebuttal is to deny reality.
Prove it. Not with one or two flimsy studies either, BamaD. I'm talking 'Mountain Ranges' like with what is known about the Theory of Climate Change.
Crime goes down when we hire more police officers. It goes down when people follow the laws of the land. It even goes down when the penalty is sufficiently strict to make someone think twice before doing it.
For each of these, there exist mountain ranges of evidence. Ever wonder why voter fraud is so amazingly low as to not have any effect on any of the last four Presidential elections? The penalty in each state not to mention the federal level is pretty damn strict.
I have never said that CCW is the only thing that ever causes crime to go down.
The other things you mentioned are also factors.
The only study that did not support my assertion was put out by the Brady bunch and they
refused to tell what sources they used or the methodology they used, so there is a mountain
of evidence.
Haven't had the time yet to write a fresh book on the subject which is what you demand.
I'm going to highlight it for you, BamaD. I'll even be a good sport and repost the exact language below:
"Crime always goes down when ccw laws are passed that is a simple fact."
You said this, BamaD. And I asked for a fair amount of evidence that supports the notion. An I wanted it specifically from the City of Chicago and not some other far-flung place, since this city has its own characteristics that make it unique to other locations.
I inserted what I was looking for in a reply: "mountain ranges" like that exist with the Theory of Climate Change. Why this? Because you are against the Theory of Climate Change with all its evidence, yet accept, without one scientific study, that CCW have made the City of Chicago a much safer place.
Your welcome to your belief, if you admit its just a belief. But when you pass belief off as fact, its fair to ask for you to give the burden of evidence. I could be persuaded that CCW might have a positive effect in the City of Chicago. I'm telling you, to reach that point, requires something more sustainable and verifiable then a belief.
Unlike your stance with the Theory of Climate Change, I am not ruling out that your belief could be true. Its that given the evidence so far, it doesn't seem to show a direct link to what your saying.
Before continuing your silly rant you should read post number two.
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