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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 12:59:20 AM   
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defending himself from a kid half his body weight and size.

You're making shit up again. Martin was young and strong, a 5'-11" tall street fighter who weighed in around 160lbs and had the advantage of both height and reach over Zimmerman, who was a pudgy out-of-shape 185lbs, stood only between 5'-7" and 5'-8" tall (reports vary), and was described by his trainer as physically soft and too unskilled to go into the ring.

Can't you find a more fun hobby than contaminating forum discussions?

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 10:25:08 AM   
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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 1:21:40 PM   
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Dick the dumb things you say? How does one get from there from anywhere?

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 1:26:05 PM   
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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 1:46:38 PM   
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Felony murder? That one might be tough. I'm not up to speed on Wyoming law,

If you had read the article you would know that you would not need to be up to speed on wyoming law

but manslaughter would seem the better charge, in theory - they were being stupid, and got someone even stupider killed.

I'm thinking it was a language barrier thing. If the kid had spoken better American, he'd have understood that metal clacking noise meant, "run like hell, right fucking now!"

If the accused murderer had not pulled the trigger 4 times he would not be in jail.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:12:31 PM   
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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:14:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I said white and rich will tend to fare better, that doesn't mean there aren't exceptions to that.. You obviously have your own ideas on why he was found "innocent" in a criminal court but imo it wasn't so much due to him having money/being well off, it was due to him being a sports hero and also in part, imo some of the jurors were biased in his favor.. but his luck ran out fast.. he was found guilty in the civil suit and he was given a pretty long jail sentence for his last incident.. so yes, he is serving time in jail, just not for the murder.. he got 33 years.. he will be about 70 when he gets out.. he is begging Obama to free him from jail.. (which imo Obama would never do, that would mar his legacy thing)...

Look at the scum that the past presidents have turn loose on their way out.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:14:42 PM   
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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:15:45 PM   
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There you go, FD. LoneStaBlues has provided a neat picture of the wavelength that people are on out there. The context of threat and danger that they're used to just isn't part of our experience here in Western Europe. Myself, if I were that kid's dad, I wouldn't have let my son go out there in the first place, frankly.


If I were that kid's dad I'd be wishing I had taken more time to teach my son that going, uninvited, into someone's home and committing a criminal act can have dire and unexpected consequences. BOTH people were stupid. Now, one is dead, the other facing charges. The kid is every bit as responsible as the guy that pulled the trigger. But in reading the responses so far it would seem that the anti-gun people want to ignore that fact. Just remember, the kid wouldn't be dead if he had not been breaking the law in the first place.







But then this post would not look like the ignorant piece of shit that it is. This idiotic child did not break into someone home as you would have us believe. Read the motherfucking article. Why do you wish to make a simple act of adolescent mischief into felony assault. The article is quite clear he entered an open garage and the homeowner came out and fired into the dark garage with a shotgun...what is the result if it is a small child or someones pet.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:17:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first stupid choice made in the situation was the kid going into another person's premises with criminal intent. I realize it may not be what some are accustomed to, but yeah, that is a damn good way to get yourself shot in the US of A

That will also put a lot of usa gunslingers in prison.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:18:27 PM   
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so freedomwarf you suggest a homeowner waits to see if the intruder is armed before shooting him



The law requires that the intruder must present a serious credible threat.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:19:44 PM   
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just because i leave my backdoor unlocked does not mean they can enter my house



Just because you can open your mouth why do you think what comes out is worth listening to? Why don't you go down to the cop shop and ask them what the law is before you get yourself into trouble with this ignorant bullshit.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:20:56 PM   
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My point exactly, and your sharp mind caught it, despite what they say about the English.

K.


God knows where this was said - I've never bothered to look it up - but, in the USA, the moment a British accent is heard the (American) hearer adjusts his estimate of the speaker's IQ upwards by an average of 6%. Silliness is rife worldwide.



Problem is that we here in america cannot tell the difference between a brit a kiwi and an aussie

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:22:02 PM   
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The drug aspect might see him charged, Boi, and there might even be some State Dept. pressure to give the Germans a sympathy nuzzle, but the lawful resident gets pretty broad legal latitude on picking his tactics.


Only in your bloodthirsty mind and no where else. The law is quite clear.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 2:23:11 PM   
thompsonx


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Status: offline 		Blacks - that comprise 11% of the population commit 46% of the murders, 35% of rapists. 40$ of felony assaults.

Overall blacks comprised 55% of violent felons.

Why does that statistic make you so happy?

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 3:09:20 PM   
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I said white and rich will tend to fare better, that doesn't mean there aren't exceptions to that.. You obviously have your own ideas on why he was found "innocent" in a criminal court but imo it wasn't so much due to him having money/being well off, it was due to him being a sports hero and also in part, imo some of the jurors were biased in his favor.. but his luck ran out fast.. he was found guilty in the civil suit and he was given a pretty long jail sentence for his last incident.. so yes, he is serving time in jail, just not for the murder.. he got 33 years.. he will be about 70 when he gets out.. he is begging Obama to free him from jail.. (which imo Obama would never do, that would mar his legacy thing)...

Look at the scum that the past presidents have turn loose on their way out.

but the past presidents were all white.. cuz Obama is the first black prez he has to be a bit more careful.. and letting a disgraced black sports hero (& unpunished murderer?) would be a bad thing to do for the black community imo.. and of course his opponents would have a hay day.. Obama is pretty tired, being Prez has aged him, imo he has enough on his plate and doesn't want more.. and what would happen if he let OJ out and then OJ went and pulled some more shite.. ffs, OJ is in jail and was caught stealing the jail cafeteria cookies! he is just bad news!!!

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 3:21:50 PM   
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Problem is that we here in america cannot tell the difference between a brit a kiwi and an aussie

Speak for yourself 'coz I know a shitload of Americans that can!!

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 3:44:41 PM   
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Problem is that we here in america cannot tell the difference between a brit a kiwi and an aussie


I used to have the same problem distinguishing Americans from Canadians. However, I've learned that all you have to do is say 'Hello' to the person in question. If you hear him say 'hello' back, he's Canadian. If he's American, you won't hear what he says back because he'll have already drawn his piece and blown your brains out.


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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 4:04:36 PM   
thompsonx


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Status: offline 		but the past presidents were all white.. cuz Obama is the first black prez he has to be a bit more careful..

Why ???they are all scum

and letting a disgraced black sports hero (& unpunished murderer?)

Any proof of that ignorant unsubstantiated opinion?

would be a bad thing to do for the black community imo.. and of course his opponents would have a hay day..

The pardon wouold come after the next election and he is not going to run for anything again except possible the court.

OJ is in jail and was caught stealing the jail cafeteria cookies! he is just bad news!!!

In jail nothing is safe they will steal the paint of the wall.

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RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills U... - 5/11/2014 4:08:40 PM   
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Problem is that we here in america cannot tell the difference between a brit a kiwi and an aussie

Speak for yourself 'coz I know a shitload of Americans that can!!


Well I have been "downundr" so when I hear that "funny talk" if it is different than "downundr" and I can understand it I figgure they are indian, if I can't then I know they are welsh

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