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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Your deranged post got pulled and you demonstrated a twisted mind that just makes nasty shit up. Own the numbers 220-1.

Last term it was 220-0 (zero percent black members) and the whole mid-term platform was a full fledged Anti-Obama campaign. KD then wonders why blacks vote the other way. (Incredible.)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.

I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.

That's it, asked and answered.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Your deranged post got pulled and you demonstrated a twisted mind that just makes nasty shit up. Own the numbers 220-1.

Last term it was 220-0 (zero percent black members) and the whole mid-term platform was a full fledged Anti-Obama campaign. KD then wonders why blacks vote the other way. (Incredible.)

You are using the kind of logic that I have seen two wonderful examples of.
A In 80-81 I managed a convenience store. The district manager
consistently told me that I should hire a woman. He would not accept
my explanation that no women applied for the job. Should have hired
one anyway.
B The predominately black college that I went to lost a discrimination
lawsuit. Why? Because less than 5% of the student body was white.
The fact was that white people didn't go there because it wasn't a very
good school. This was largely because to help black kids they lowered
their standards to let them in (don't say blacks can't cut it but they let
people in {of all races} who couldn't get in anywhere else. Then they
had to dumb down their classes to help bring the kids up to speed.
I was in a 400 level class on the Civil War where I was the only student
who knew (going in) which states left the Union. But using your "logic"
since the results had only > 5% white there had to be a hostile
environment. Before you try to turn this into an attack on me, I went
there because I could get in quicker, they were the least expensive school
in the area, and it was the only school in the area with the complete
set of classes for teachers.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.

I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.

That's it, asked and answered.

And wrong. Those numbers are consistent, blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.
I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.
That's it, asked and answered.

And wrong. Those numbers are consistent, blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

Actually wrong. Blacks have consistently voted for whites since there have rarely been any other options on the ballot.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
I'm not black. It's an embarrassment for a national political party to have 220+ house members who are white and only one (1) who is black. (220-1) That's .45%; less than 1/2 of 1%.
The GOP fails to get the black vote. Why is that?
There have been 42 white male US Presidents in the USA and one black one.
The numbers are 220-1 and 42-1.
After you wrap your mind around these figures, maybe you might find your answer.
How can you even say the opportunities are the same? How can you even speak of affirmative action when you see the numbers. 220-1 and 42-1.
The GOP is not inclusive and many of its members are out-and-out racists. We can also lump in the homophobes and xenophobes.

1. Hiram Rhodes Revels - Republican
2. Blanche Kelso Bruce - Republican
3. Edward William Brooke, III - Republican
4. Carol Moseley Braun - Democrat
5. Barack Obama - Democratic
6. Roland Burris - Democratic
7. Tim Scott - Republican
8. Mo Cowan - Democratic
9. Cory Booker - Democrat

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Pinckney Benton Stewart Pinchback (born Pinckney Benton Stewart; May 10, 1837 – December 21, 1921) was a publisher and politician, a Union Army officer, and the first person of African descent to become governor of a U.S. state. He was born free in Georgia. A Republican, Pinchback served as the 24th Governor of Louisiana for 15 days, from December 29, 1872, to January 13, 1873. He was later elected to the state legislature, serving in 1879-1880.

Nicholas Lemann, in Redemption: The Last Battle of the Civil War, described Pinchback as "an outsized figure: newspaper publisher, gambler, orator, speculator, dandy, mountebank – served for a few months as the state's Governor and claimed seats in both houses of Congress following disputed elections but could not persuade the members of either to seat him." Congress was then controlled by Democrats.
...
1870s Congressional and Senatorial elections

After his brief governorship, Pinchback remained active in politics and public service in Louisiana. From 1868, campaigns and elections in Louisiana were increasingly marked by Democratic violence. Historian George C. Rable described the White League, started in 1874, as the "military arm of the Democratic Party." The paramilitary group used intimidation and violence to suppress black voting and run Republicans out of office.

As an outcome of the controversial 1872 election, four US Congressional seats from Louisiana were also contested, including Pinchback's seat in the at-large position. He was the first African American elected to Congress from Louisiana. In early 1873, both the Republican William Kellogg-allied state legislators, who had a slight majority, and the Democrat John McEnery-allied legislators elected US Senators. Pinchback was elected by the Republicans and presented the Senate with his credentials. The Democratic candidate also presented credentials. As the 1872 gubernatorial contest had involved the national government, Congress was initially reluctant to assess these issues. The contested claim was not settled for years, and by that time, Democrats controlled Congress.

Holding out for the Senate seat, Pinchback conceded the House seat to his Democratic opponent. But the 45th Congress (1877-1879), which finally decided the issue, was Democratic majority, and it voted against Pinchback. The Senate did give him compensation of $16,000 for his salary and mileage after his protracted struggle to take his seat.

In his memoir of Reconstruction, former Louisiana governor Henry Clay Warmoth wrote that the federal government was reluctant to seat people representing the Kellogg-Pinchback faction. He had a personal interest, as he had been forced out of Louisiana after allying with white conservatives in the 1872 election certification. Historian John C. Rodrigue notes that the Congressional committee on Elections was dealing with its own internal issues. It had accepted Pinchback's claim to the House seat, but he was holding out for the Senate seat, and then complications arose after the Democrats controlled Congress, and they upheld election of his opponent.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Your deranged post got pulled and you demonstrated a twisted mind that just makes nasty shit up. Own the numbers 220-1.

Last term it was 220-0 (zero percent black members) and the whole mid-term platform was a full fledged Anti-Obama campaign. KD then wonders why blacks vote the other way. (Incredible.)

You are using the kind of logic that I have seen two wonderful examples of.
A In 80-81 I managed a convenience store. The district manager
consistently told me that I should hire a woman. He would not accept
my explanation that no women applied for the job. Should have hired
one anyway.
B The predominately black college that I went to lost a discrimination
lawsuit. Why? Because less than 5% of the student body was white.
The fact was that white people didn't go there because it wasn't a very
good school. This was largely because to help black kids they lowered
their standards to let them in (don't say blacks can't cut it but they let
people in {of all races} who couldn't get in anywhere else. Then they
had to dumb down their classes to help bring the kids up to speed.
I was in a 400 level class on the Civil War where I was the only student
who knew (going in) which states left the Union. But using your "logic"
since the results had only > 5% white there had to be a hostile
environment. Before you try to turn this into an attack on me, I went
there because I could get in quicker, they were the least expensive school
in the area, and it was the only school in the area with the complete
set of classes for teachers.

Name the college so I can look up the suit. It will be a matter of public record. I know of no such lawsuit against any of the historically black colleges. BTW the HBCU's have very good academic reputations so I really doubt any would have standards as low as you claim.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.
I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.
That's it, asked and answered.

And wrong. Those numbers are consistent, blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

Actually wrong. Blacks have consistently voted for whites since there have rarely been any other options on the ballot.

And, you can't count those races, Ken. Come on. If it's not possible to vote for a black person, you can't use that in comparison to see if black voters vote along race lines or not.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.

I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.

That's it, asked and answered.

And wrong. Those numbers are consistent, blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

Actually wrong. Blacks have consistently voted for whites since there have rarely been any other options on the ballot.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Your deranged post got pulled and you demonstrated a twisted mind that just makes nasty shit up. Own the numbers 220-1.

Last term it was 220-0 (zero percent black members) and the whole mid-term platform was a full fledged Anti-Obama campaign. KD then wonders why blacks vote the other way. (Incredible.)

You are using the kind of logic that I have seen two wonderful examples of.
A In 80-81 I managed a convenience store. The district manager
consistently told me that I should hire a woman. He would not accept
my explanation that no women applied for the job. Should have hired
one anyway.
B The predominately black college that I went to lost a discrimination
lawsuit. Why? Because less than 5% of the student body was white.
The fact was that white people didn't go there because it wasn't a very
good school. This was largely because to help black kids they lowered
their standards to let them in (don't say blacks can't cut it but they let
people in {of all races} who couldn't get in anywhere else. Then they
had to dumb down their classes to help bring the kids up to speed.
I was in a 400 level class on the Civil War where I was the only student
who knew (going in) which states left the Union. But using your "logic"
since the results had only > 5% white there had to be a hostile
environment. Before you try to turn this into an attack on me, I went
there because I could get in quicker, they were the least expensive school
in the area, and it was the only school in the area with the complete
set of classes for teachers.

Name the college so I can look up the suit. It will be a matter of public record. I know of no such lawsuit against any of the historically black colleges. BTW the HBCU's have very good academic reputations so I really doubt any would have standards as low as you claim.

That and I get a chuckle BamaD never heard of a employment agency in the 80's. One only has to call one up, say "I'm looking for a qualified manager for a convenience store. Could you supply me with candidates that are both male an female?"

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If you think blacks are bigoted and vote that way -- good for you. 220-1 looks fair to you, great.

I don't agree. I think a minority group who has their first chance in 42 tries to elect one of their own takes it. Bonus -- he was superior to Mitt Romney as well -- a corporate takeover specialist, vulture capitalist, and forefather to the Individual Mandate in health care.

That's it, asked and answered.

And wrong. Those numbers are consistent, blacks are, in any race, far less likely to vote for a white than a white is to vote for a black.

Actually wrong. Blacks have consistently voted for whites since there have rarely been any other options on the ballot.

As usual you dn't know what you are talking about.