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A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:17:57 PM

DemonicGynoid

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Some people say we should get rid of the police. Perhaps, but, lets be honest, as we currently are right now, how many of us would actually go out of our way to stop a murder or rape ourselves? Most of us wouldnt (me included, though i want to try to change that), because we have become a society of bystanders, waiting for someone else to help. We need to be more vigilant. Thats why I am also against gun control, because if someone comes into my home, with the intent of harming me or my loved ones, I dont want to have to wait to be rescued. I want the option to defend myself and my loved ones.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:23:56 PM

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Who are these people who suggest we get rid of the police ?
I never met one of these people myself
On its face the sentiment is ridiculous .

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:30:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Who are these people who suggest we get rid of the police ?
I never met one of these people myself
On its face the sentiment is ridiculous .

People who have been victims of police corruption or incompetence.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:30:36 PM

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I would advocate some serious changes in how police are trained - and equipped - as well as some major changes in various laws. But I don't know of anyone calling for the end of police protection for society.

OP sounds a bit trollish...

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:34:41 PM

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quote:

OP sounds a bit trollish...

Only a bit?

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:38:05 PM

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OK seriously why do people always assume im a troll. Its so annoying.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:40:36 PM

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If it walks like a troll,and talks like a troll.....

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:41:21 PM

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How am i being a troll? If I am wrong the correct term is "misinformed" or "ignorant" not "troll".

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:44:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

OK seriously why do people always assume im a troll. Its so annoying.

If people always assume you are a troll, then they are basing it on something. I would love to help you figure it out but I just don't care enough.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:47:19 PM

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Okay,you're not a troll
Try to imagine a modern society without a police force.
Once you do that you have to come to the conclusion that the question is,for lack of a better term, trollish.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:49:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

OK seriously why do people always assume im a troll. Its so annoying.

If people always assume you are a troll, then they are basing it on something. I would love to help you figure it out but I just don't care enough.

I would like to know know what their definition of troll is. Because from where Im standing, they are acting very trollish to me. Instead of trying to make an argument against my claim or calling me misinformed, they call me a troll in hopes of getting a reaction from me.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:51:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Okay,you're not a troll
Try to imagine a modern society without a police force.
Once you do that you have to come to the conclusion that the question is,for lack of a better term, trollish.

My main point wasnt to abolish the police, it was for the citizens to be more vigilant and not wait for the police to come. If you see a crime taking place and you can stop it, stop it. Dont wait for the police to come, because they may be too late

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:52:14 PM

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I don't think we're a "society of bystanders". I do think that, by-and-large, we have become a society of lazy pieces of shit that pay a lot of lips service to some very high principles but few of us are willing to "roll up our sleeves" and get our hands dirty.

Entitled, maybe? I guess I could have used a better descriptor but I think the idea stands: we're not willing to be the one.

To that, I say: "If not me? Who?"

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:54:19 PM

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^Pretty much, and I know im one of them, but, im trying to change that.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:59:00 PM

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You opened your OP by stating that some people say we should get rid of the police.
Thats a statement that has to be challenged .
To respond to the rest of your post while ignoring the opening ,absurd statement ,would be surreal

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 6:59:01 PM

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vigilant doesn't equal vigilante.

This society of bystanders you postulate watches too many super hero movies.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 7:01:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

I would like to know know what their definition of troll is. Because from where Im standing, they are acting very trollish to me. Instead of trying to make an argument against my claim or calling me misinformed, they call me a troll in hopes of getting a reaction from me.

Welcome to the Dungeon where all bets are off.

Support your statements, argue your point, but if they call you a troll, nothing will be done about it in this section.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 7:04:50 PM

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I guess my biggest worry is if im called a troll, then any other thread I make, no matter how good, will be assumed to be a troll thread.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 7:11:31 PM

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Wow. Life really sucks for you.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 7:18:15 PM

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Not really. And yes, i can read sarcasm when its obvious.

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