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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 1:09:35 PM   
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These policies are from two GOP Presidential hopefuls (yes, its a over crowded field.)

Scott Walker of Wisconsin:

(1) Proposed a 13 percent cut in State Support for the University of Wisconsin System.

(2) Sought to delete the following language from the University's mission statement

(a) “Basic to every purpose of the system is the search for truth.” (b) "to educate people and improve the human condition" (c) "to serve and stimulate society"

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Governor Bobby Jindal Louisiana:

(1) Louisiana’s budget shortfall is projected to reach $1.6 billion next year (The MNOT Kansas model in action.)

(2) the governor has unequivocally ruled out any plans for new revenue,

(3) Louisiana’s higher education budget, one of the few discretionary targets, has been slashed by more (42%) than just about any other state since 2008; there are a thousand fewer full-time college faculty members on the state payroll, and next year Louisiana State University, the state’s flagship institution, is facing a potential 40 percent cut in its operating budget.

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Recent Deep State Higher Education Cuts May Harm Students and the Economy for Years to Come

On a national level the US Government is simply not investing in America --- cutting support for education, letting existing infrastructure deteriorate, and not funding any new infrastructure (public transportation -- for example.) The last Metro System developed in a US metropolitan city was in DC during the 70s. There's been really nothing since.

But the Louisiana repubs must be brilliant at math. They still have enough for million$ for Hollywood.

HERE

But then they just can't take the fed money for expanded medicaid. The poor will just have to die. It would have created 15,600 jobs, a whole lot more than the Hollywood welfare and without any La. tax payer money.

HERE

And they have the gall to call themselves conservatives.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 1:13:14 PM   
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So is Governor Walker trying to replace Wisconsin's respected state University with a trade school ?

Well I don't know. Do you consider Physics a "trade"? How about Anthropology? Do you think he wants to kill those majors?

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 2:21:58 PM   
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Hey, that's a shirt from a Tea Party Rally. Its a pretty funny sight to behold.

Wrong again, bozo. Do you make this shit up yourself, or do you get it from your voices?

K.


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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 4:13:16 PM   
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If you keep feeding him he will keep trolling. I think there's an obvious solution.

Yeah really.

If Mike was a steely man hunk like you, he'd put me on Hide me and snipe at me every chance he gets.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 4:17:45 PM   
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I don't place any of you idiots on "hide"...it's entertaining to see the pov of the incredibly stupid and uninformed.
I appreciate your contributions to my "entertainment"

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 4:24:39 PM   
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I don't place any of you idiots on "hide"...it's entertaining to see the pov of the incredibly stupid and uninformed.
I appreciate your contributions to my "entertainment"

There ya go, that's the spirit. There's nothing commendable about being a punk-ass.

K.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 4:28:25 PM   
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Come by that information first hand,eh ?

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/8/2015 4:31:46 PM   
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Come by that information first hand,eh ?

First hand experience with Gotsteel, yeah.

K.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 7:39:00 AM   
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"meeting the states work force needs"

Last I checked, all those in ROTC serve the US Military....NOT...a single state. That many students do go to UW that live outside the state. For what ever reason, they may not stay in the state after graduating. Others that live in the state, may end up moving elsewhere for careers. So really, the quote Mr. Walker wants is a total lie.

You have NEVER checked (so you lie.) And this is a bullshit claim.


Oh I lie? And this is based on what exactly? You lack anything in the realm of evidence or facts.

What I said is pretty common in any higher level education system. From California to Maine. From Alaska to Florida. Its called 'being educated'. A concept that you are not. That your trying to find an issue with this, to attack me on is lame. Cute, but, lame.

Or are you going to tell all of us, that someone graduating from the University of (insert state name here) can never leave the state? Because that is your 'argument' right there. Anyone with a high school diploma could say your 'full of shit'.

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Also, if Mr. Walker is trying to diminish UW to that of a trade school....he's an idiot. An so is anyone that supports him! Having a well known university brings in business and tax dollars in the form of tourism, sporting events, cultural exposures, and improved educational standards. Boston, MA, for example had well over a 130 universities and colleges located in and nearby. As a result, the city is a thriving area for many different industries and entertainment. If Mr. Walker wnats to reduce UW to a second-rate university like UU (that's University of Utah); I say 'let him'. All the bright and gifted students will just come to Boston! After all, who the hell goes to UU? Sounds like a death sentence.....

"tourism, sporting events, cultural exposures"

I think that I have found the problem with higher ed.


You? Oh this should be good....

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Reduce to a second rate university? "After all, who the hell goes to UU? Sounds like a death sentence....." "Bright and gifted"

Your bigotry, elitism, and contempt for the poor and middle class is showing. (And that does not even touch on your disgust of anyone that chooses a trade school.)


Contempt for the poor and middle class? Do you even realize I'm the one defending the middle class and poor in discussions? That I was the one arguing in favor of the Affordable Care Act, because it allows small business owners (and their employees) to finally get a fair deal with health insurance policies? Before, many of them simply could not afford it, being to expensive. The ones they could afford, often were very expensive. I know this from having been with the Small Business Administration. Saw it every day from area business owners and their employees. The employee who was good friends of the business owner, got some horrible illness; and the business owner feeling like shit for having no decent way to help them.

Or that I enjoy watching the middle class get dumped into the poor sections? Was against the large financial houses foreclosing on families after suckering them to purchase things their financial ability could never afford in the first place. Yeah, that was thanks to Republicans removing several regulations in 2002-2005. That you didnt hear about it, really shows your lack of understanding.

I helped in the local food panties around my area. I watched as people walked in. The look on their faces of being dishearten, defeated, and beaten down constantly, was all to common. To put a hand on their should, look them in the eye, and say, "things will get better; for now, do what you can". I'm not perfect, but I do try.

You really dont know what you babble about.

Yeah, I'm elite, because anyone with a high school diploma could beat you in a discussion. They dont need a college degree. That you dont understand what I posted, really shows your lack of an education. Did you actually go to UU?

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 7:42:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Joether the New York Times editorial board on Feb 7th 2015 ran the piece in which I borrowed to start the thread that so incensed our local idiots


I'm sorry for having to ask it, mike. However, I demand it from the conservative/libertarians on here. That I do it myself when I start threads. If I dont demand such from everyone else; I'm both a hypocrite and playing favors. Its in the interest of being fair, to request the citing of information.

So the next time they say I dont do this for the liberals and moderates on here; there will be proof they are full of shit.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 7:46:49 AM   
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Hey, that's a shirt from a Tea Party Rally. Its a pretty funny sight to behold.

Wrong again, bozo. Do you make this shit up yourself, or do you get it from your voices?


So, your accusing me, of not seeing what I saw at many Tea Party Rallies? And you have....EVIDENCE.....right? Because that is the only way your 'argument' has a leg to stand on in this discussion.

You know, I know, and....EVERYONE ON HERE...knows: YOU DONT HAVE SHIT!

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 10:41:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: Kirata



Hey, that's a shirt from a Tea Party Rally. Its a pretty funny sight to behold.

Wrong again, bozo. Do you make this shit up yourself, or do you get it from your voices?


So, your accusing me, of not seeing what I saw at many Tea Party Rallies? And you have....EVIDENCE.....right? Because that is the only way your 'argument' has a leg to stand on in this discussion.

You know, I know, and....EVERYONE ON HERE...knows: YOU DONT HAVE SHIT!


I didn't know that. Are you putting thoughts in my head ?


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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 1:00:37 PM   
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Joether the New York Times editorial board on Feb 7th 2015 ran the piece in which I borrowed to start the thread that so incensed our local idiots


I'm sorry for having to ask it, mike. However, I demand it from the conservative/libertarians on here. That I do it myself when I start threads. If I dont demand such from everyone else; I'm both a hypocrite and playing favors. Its in the interest of being fair, to request the citing of information.

So the next time they say I dont do this for the liberals and moderates on here; there will be proof they are full of shit.

No problem at all,if I hadn't been lazy in the first place I would have supplied the link.The problem is I get the Times "delivered" daily to my kindle...but the Times in their infinite wisdom restricts you to I think 6 searches a month on non subscribed devices( such as my laptop)

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 1:07:19 PM   
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I admit I have no clue where that shirt came from but I am having a hard time believing he saw that many people at tea party events wearing them and never snapped a pic to hold up as proof of how stupid they are or that he doesn't have a link to a site that did.

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 2:40:58 PM   
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No problem at all,if I hadn't been lazy in the first place I would have supplied the link.The problem is I get the Times "delivered" daily to my kindle...but the Times in their infinite wisdom restricts you to I think 6 searches a month on non subscribed devices( such as my laptop)


This is the closest story I could find: http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/university/gov-scott-walker-to-uw-faculty-consider-teaching-one-more/article_46cd33d1-18bb-509e-aa2c-d3b0b66ccee8.html

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 4:10:39 PM   
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Here ya go,a link to the op-ed that spawned the thread :
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/gov-scott-walkers-drafting-error.html?_r=0



Should have put it there with the opening post,my bad

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 5:06:53 PM   
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"Brazenly deleted as well from the mission statement, which is nationally appreciated in education circles as the Wisconsin Idea, were the far from controversial goals “to educate people and improve the human condition” and “serve and stimulate society.”"

Damn....

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 5:13:36 PM   
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Right....so how far to a trade school would it get if this idiot had a free hand.Which thankfully he doesn't ,hence the backing off of the revisions(if not the money)

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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 5:45:04 PM   
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Do you make this shit up yourself, or do you get it from your voices?

So, your accusing me, of not seeing what I saw...

Did you figure that out by yourself?

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...at many Tea Party Rallies?


http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1c8d5s/my_wife_found_this_tshirt_in_a_seoul_korea_market/

Were they in South Korea?

K.


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RE: Gov.Walker:This should play well in the general - 2/9/2015 7:00:12 PM   
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Right....so how far to a trade school would it get if this idiot had a free hand.

What precisely is the idiocy here? What would be cut? Do you really believe there are no university courses that could be dropped without a tragic impact on higher education?

K.





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