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Aylee -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 10:26:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yes masturbation was an illness, and women lost their clitoris's because they were "nymphos" and masturbating excessively..
Oh the evils of women:)




I am a very very sick and evil woman. [:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 10:39:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yes masturbation was an illness, and women lost their clitoris's because they were "nymphos" and masturbating excessively..
Oh the evils of women:)




I am a very very sick and evil woman. [:D]

Agreed




CreativeDominant -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 10:44:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yes masturbation was an illness, and women lost their clitoris's because they were "nymphos" and masturbating excessively..
Oh the evils of women:)




I am a very very sick and evil woman. [:D]

Thank GOD!!!




Moderator3 -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 11:40:38 AM)

Many posts have been removed from this thread, for making the topic turn to guns and even after a moderator warning, quotes and responses continued. That is the basis for removing a thread entirely. I didn't believe the OP and topic deserved that, so I cleaned the thread.

When you come into a thread and change the topic and go on and on about it, a mod asks for you to stop and then it is continued, that will be a basis for banning. You ruin the topic and thread for those it matters to.

No gun threads outside the gun threads.

Thank you




Moderator3 -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 4:35:12 PM)

Kicking this up the list because I took so long to return the thread. I'm sorry, it has been a very busy day.




bounty44 -> RE: War on women (2/19/2015 4:47:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

it would be much better for all involved who are reading, and especially me too, if you would actually use the definition and clearly explain and illustrate exactly how her link is "biased"



No it wouldnt be better, since it would mean those that don`t get it wish to be spoon fed. The answer would be read the link and work it out for yourself.




I am not sure from an intellectual standpoint, how in good conscience you can accuse something/someone of "bias" without actively working towards a common understanding of the concept such that your argument can either be refuted, or agreed with. whats more, "illustrating something" is not "spoon-feeding", its educating...and it also shows you have the ability to support your position.





hot4bondage -> RE: War on women (2/20/2015 7:29:23 AM)

Here's some light reading while we wait. It fails to mention the millions of kids who managed to survive, so I guess it's biased, too.

http://www.cirp.org/library/death/

Some victims of circumcision are known by name. They are:

Julius Katzenstein: 8-days-old, bled to death after circumcision, 14 December 1856, New York, NY, USA.
Myer Jacob Levy: 8-days-old, bled to death after circumcision, 18 April 1858, New York, NY, USA.
Aleck, Baby Boy: Died June 10, 1910, Island County, Washington, USA.
Michael Julian Baldwin: infant boy, 4-days-old, hemorrhage after circumcision. 21 August 1927, Monroe County, Indiana, USA.
Baby boy Lebeau, death by circumcision, April 1942, Quebec, Canada.
Roland Albert McCarty: infant boy. Death by infection of circumcision wound. Died 1932, Jacksonville, Florida, USA.
"J.B.": Died December 1942, Evanston, Illinois, USA.
Bruce Wechsler: infant boy, Staph infection following circumcision. 1957, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA.
Chino Burrell: 7-months-old, death by circumcision, 9 June 1974, Hospital for Sick Children, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Christopher Dolezal: Died November 1982, Des Moines, IA, USA.
Steven Christopher Chacon: Died November 1986, San Francisco, CA, USA.
Boma Oruitemeka: Death by circumcision, severe hemorrhage. 1990, London, England, UK.
Raju Miah: Death by circumcision. July 1991, Birmingham, England, United Kingdom.
Allen A. Ervin: Died July 8, 1992, Spartanburg, SC
Demetrius Manker: Died June 23, 1993, Carol City, Dade County, Florida, USA.17
Jeremie Johnson: Died July 18, 1995, Houston, TX, USA.19
Dustin Evans: Died October 1998, Cleveland, OH, USA.
Ryleigh Roman Bryan McWillis: Died August 22, 2002, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada35
Zola Mjamba: Died November 19, 2002, Umtata, South Africa
Sifiso Kobo: Died November 21, 2002, Umtata, South Africa
Nui Jia Yuan, 4-years-old. Death by asphyxia following circumcision. March 26, 2003, Singapore.
Callis Osaghae: Monday, August 18, 2003, Regional Hospital, Waterford, Ireland.26
Bennett Ntazina, adolescent boy. Death by circumcision. December 2003, Jan Kempdorp, South Africa.
Thamsanqa Mnyaka, 19, of Whittlesea, South Africa: Died Friday, 12 December 2003.
Myolisi Mayekiso, 18, also of Whittlesea, South Africa: Died Friday, 12 December 2003.
Andile Masabalala, 21, of Tsomo, South Africa: Died Monday, 15 December 2003.
Sabelo Marotya, 17, at Mdantsane, South Africa: Died Sunday, July 4, 2004.
Infant twin (by herpes virus, circumcised by Rabbi Yitzhok Fischer who had herpes and performed metziza by mouth [sucking the blood] on baby's penis) New York, New York, USA, October, 2004.
Dontsa Lwane, 19 (by suicide after botched circumcision of Dec 11, 2004) Gqebenya, Lady Frere, South Africa, January 8, 2005.
Wandile Lwane, 21 (Dontsa's brother, by suicide after learning of Dontasa's death) Ezibeleni, Queenstown, South Africa, January 9, 2005
Muyoddin Khan, 5, Indrapur, Nepal, February 10, 2005.
Abou Quir, infant boy, Alexandria, Egypt, February 15, 2005.
Jacob Christian Holliday. Circumcision damaged already-defective heart, requiring heart transplant at age two. Death resulted from cancer caused by immuno-suppresant drugs and resultant cancer at age 4, 20 October 2005, Orlando, Florida, USA.
Patrick Hoho, 58 (hacked to death by Hoho's circumcision victim), Port Elizabeth, South Africa, July 3, 2006.
Sello Ntsie, 18 (beaten to death at a circumcision "initiation school" before he could be circumcised), Zuurbekom, near Westonaria, South Africa, July 5, 2006.
Siyabonga Radebe, 14 (beaten to death at a circumcision "initiation school" before he could be circumcised), Zuurbekom, near Westonaria, South Africa, July 5, 2006.
Nkhiphitheni Nehelula, 9, Guyuni-Dzumbama village near Mutale, Limpopo, South Africa, July 8 or 9, 2006.
Xola Mbuqe, 18, Nelson Mandela Academic Hospital, Mthatha, Eastern Cape, South Africa, November 26, 2006.
Lunga Nocanda, 18, Paarl, Western Cape, South Africa, December 18, 2006.
Infant boy. Death by bleeding following circumcision in Creswell, Oregon,February 2007, Sacred Heart Hospital, Eugene, Oregon, USA.
Amitai Moshe, 2 weeks, after a ritual circumcision at Golders Green Synagogue, London. February 9, 2007.
Celian Noumbiwe, boy, nine weeks, death by circumcision, bled to death, 22 February 2007, Wexham Park Hospital, Slough, Berkshire, United Kingdom.
Kulideep Kumar Vishnubhai Patel, 10-year-old boy, death by circumcision, 18 November 2007, Unjha, Gujarat, India,
Infant boy, 18-days-old, death by circumcision, 18 November 2007, Pilar District, Tarragona, Nigeria.
18-year-old male, death by circumcision, November 2007, Gxulu Village, Umtata, South Africa.
Obosee Prince Aseh, boy, 2-months, death by circumcision, haemorrhage, 5 June 2008, Treviso, Italy.
Gino Erojo, 11-years-old. Death by infection following circumcision, 3 August 2008, Panciao, Manjyod, Negroes Oriental, Philippines.
Beasley Allen Terrebonne, age 48, death by suicide after botched circumcision and resulting depression. 23 December 2008, Thibodaux, Louisiana, USA.
Eric Keefe, 6-week-old infant boy, death by blood loss following circumcision, 14 July 2008, Indian Health Service Hospital, Rosebud, South Dakota, USA.
Yogama Boya, 18-year-old male, death by circumcision, July 2008, Qumbu area of Transkei, South Africa.
Johnson Killed. Age 2 years and 7 months. death by circumcision. 22 July 2008, Bari, Italy.
Jayvas Carson, full-term baby, born 15 Novmber 2008. Circumcised 28 November 2008 by Dr. Rachel Carson of Coeur d'Alene Pediatics. Died at Sacred Heart Children's Hospital, Spokane, Washington, 1 January 2009 after long series of complications that started with the loss of blood due to his non-therapeutic circumcision.
Bradley Dorcius, boy, 7-months-old. Death by circumcision, October 2009, SUNY Downstate Hospital. Brooklyn, New York, USA.
Kaan Otuk, boy, one-month-old. Death by circumcision anaesthesia overdose, 31 October 2009, Çukurova State Hospital, Adana, Turkey.
Sonke Foca, male, 19-years-old. Death by dehydration following circumcision, 11 November 2009, Butterworth, Transkei, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa.
Goodluck Caubergs, Baby. Bled to death after circumcision. Oldham, England, April 17, 2010.
Saijad Hossain Mimu, 6-years-old. Death by lidocaine anaesthetic overdose, 25 September 2010, Safapur, Amirbad Union,Sonagazi Upazila, Feni District in the Division of Chittagong, Bangladesh.
Joshua Haskins, 7-weeks old. Died 19 hours after having circumcision followed by prolonged bleeding, despite having congenital heart defect and being in intensive care. October 6, 2010, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA.
Jaamal Coleson, Jr., toddler, of Brooklyn, New York. Died at Beth Israel Medical Center, Manhattan, New York City after a circumcision on Tuesday, May 3, 2011.50
James Connor, infant, seven pounds eight ounces, 21 inches long. Born at Pittsburgh, Friday, November 25, 2011. Died Saturday night, November 26, 2011. Death by bleeding after circumcision.
Anonymous Jewish infant, two weeks old. Death from Herpes infection, Maimonides Hospital, Brookyn, New York, September 28, 2011.51
Angelo Ofori-Minhah, age 28-days, of Queen's Park, Northamptonshire, England, died on February 17, 2012 after being circumcised by Rabbi Mordehai Cohen on February 15, 2012. The cause of death was bleeding, exsanguination, and heart failure, according to the medical report. The infant was reported to have lost three-quarters of his total blood volume.
Two boys, Arif, age 4 and Azhar, age 3,in Rakasipet, Bodhan, Andhra Pradesh India. The boys died on Monday, April 30, 2012 after a circumcision a few days before by a rural medical practitioner at Masjid Colony in the Rakasipet area due to uncontrolled "overbleeding".
Infant boy, age two-weeks. Circumcised Sunday, 6 May 2012 in a doctor's office on the east side of Oslo, Norway. Died of complications Tuesday, 8 May 2012.
Braden Tyler Frazier. Born February 25, 2013 at Lodi, California. Died March 8, 2013 at Sacramento. Circumcised on the ninth day of life at Sacramento, California. Died on the eleventh day of life of hemorrhage and convulsions, secondary to circumcision.
Gugeluthu Molakapa, age 4, brain dead after a circumcision at Germiston Hospital, Johannesburg, South Africa, August 2013.




DaddySatyr -> RE: War on women (2/20/2015 7:31:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Thank GOD!!!



You're welcome!



Jehova




Sanity -> RE: War on women (2/20/2015 7:49:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hot4bondage

Here's some light reading while we wait. It fails to mention the millions of kids who managed to survive, so I guess it's biased, too.

http://www.cirp.org/library/death/

Some victims of circumcision are known by name. They are:

Julius Katzenstein: 8-days-old, bled to death after circumcision, 14 December 1856, New York, NY, USA.
Myer Jacob Levy: 8-days-old, bled to death after circumcision, 18 April 1858, New York, NY, USA.
Aleck, Baby Boy: Died June 10, 1910, Island County, Washington, USA.
Michael Julian Baldwin: infant boy, 4-days-old, hemorrhage after circumcision. 21 August 1927, Monroe County, Indiana, USA.
Baby boy Lebeau, death by circumcision, April 1942, Quebec, Canada.
Roland Albert McCarty: infant boy. Death by infection of circumcision wound. Died 1932, Jacksonville, Florida, USA.
"J.B.": Died December 1942, Evanston, Illinois, USA.
Bruce Wechsler: infant boy, Staph infection following circumcision. 1957, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA.
Chino Burrell: 7-months-old, death by circumcision, 9 June 1974, Hospital for Sick Children, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Christopher Dolezal: Died November 1982, Des Moines, IA, USA.
Steven Christopher Chacon: Died November 1986, San Francisco, CA, USA.
Boma Oruitemeka: Death by circumcision, severe hemorrhage. 1990, London, England, UK.
Raju Miah: Death by circumcision. July 1991, Birmingham, England, United Kingdom.
Allen A. Ervin: Died July 8, 1992, Spartanburg, SC
Demetrius Manker: Died June 23, 1993, Carol City, Dade County, Florida, USA.17
Jeremie Johnson: Died July 18, 1995, Houston, TX, USA.19
Dustin Evans: Died October 1998, Cleveland, OH, USA.
Ryleigh Roman Bryan McWillis: Died August 22, 2002, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada35
Zola Mjamba: Died November 19, 2002, Umtata, South Africa
Sifiso Kobo: Died November 21, 2002, Umtata, South Africa
Nui Jia Yuan, 4-years-old. Death by asphyxia following circumcision. March 26, 2003, Singapore.
Callis Osaghae: Monday, August 18, 2003, Regional Hospital, Waterford, Ireland.26
Bennett Ntazina, adolescent boy. Death by circumcision. December 2003, Jan Kempdorp, South Africa.
Thamsanqa Mnyaka, 19, of Whittlesea, South Africa: Died Friday, 12 December 2003.
Myolisi Mayekiso, 18, also of Whittlesea, South Africa: Died Friday, 12 December 2003.
Andile Masabalala, 21, of Tsomo, South Africa: Died Monday, 15 December 2003.
Sabelo Marotya, 17, at Mdantsane, South Africa: Died Sunday, July 4, 2004.
Infant twin (by herpes virus, circumcised by Rabbi Yitzhok Fischer who had herpes and performed metziza by mouth [sucking the blood] on baby's penis) New York, New York, USA, October, 2004.
Dontsa Lwane, 19 (by suicide after botched circumcision of Dec 11, 2004) Gqebenya, Lady Frere, South Africa, January 8, 2005.
Wandile Lwane, 21 (Dontsa's brother, by suicide after learning of Dontasa's death) Ezibeleni, Queenstown, South Africa, January 9, 2005
Muyoddin Khan, 5, Indrapur, Nepal, February 10, 2005.
Abou Quir, infant boy, Alexandria, Egypt, February 15, 2005.
Jacob Christian Holliday. Circumcision damaged already-defective heart, requiring heart transplant at age two. Death resulted from cancer caused by immuno-suppresant drugs and resultant cancer at age 4, 20 October 2005, Orlando, Florida, USA.
Patrick Hoho, 58 (hacked to death by Hoho's circumcision victim), Port Elizabeth, South Africa, July 3, 2006.
Sello Ntsie, 18 (beaten to death at a circumcision "initiation school" before he could be circumcised), Zuurbekom, near Westonaria, South Africa, July 5, 2006.
Siyabonga Radebe, 14 (beaten to death at a circumcision "initiation school" before he could be circumcised), Zuurbekom, near Westonaria, South Africa, July 5, 2006.
Nkhiphitheni Nehelula, 9, Guyuni-Dzumbama village near Mutale, Limpopo, South Africa, July 8 or 9, 2006.
Xola Mbuqe, 18, Nelson Mandela Academic Hospital, Mthatha, Eastern Cape, South Africa, November 26, 2006.
Lunga Nocanda, 18, Paarl, Western Cape, South Africa, December 18, 2006.
Infant boy. Death by bleeding following circumcision in Creswell, Oregon,February 2007, Sacred Heart Hospital, Eugene, Oregon, USA.
Amitai Moshe, 2 weeks, after a ritual circumcision at Golders Green Synagogue, London. February 9, 2007.
Celian Noumbiwe, boy, nine weeks, death by circumcision, bled to death, 22 February 2007, Wexham Park Hospital, Slough, Berkshire, United Kingdom.
Kulideep Kumar Vishnubhai Patel, 10-year-old boy, death by circumcision, 18 November 2007, Unjha, Gujarat, India,
Infant boy, 18-days-old, death by circumcision, 18 November 2007, Pilar District, Tarragona, Nigeria.
18-year-old male, death by circumcision, November 2007, Gxulu Village, Umtata, South Africa.
Obosee Prince Aseh, boy, 2-months, death by circumcision, haemorrhage, 5 June 2008, Treviso, Italy.
Gino Erojo, 11-years-old. Death by infection following circumcision, 3 August 2008, Panciao, Manjyod, Negroes Oriental, Philippines.
Beasley Allen Terrebonne, age 48, death by suicide after botched circumcision and resulting depression. 23 December 2008, Thibodaux, Louisiana, USA.
Eric Keefe, 6-week-old infant boy, death by blood loss following circumcision, 14 July 2008, Indian Health Service Hospital, Rosebud, South Dakota, USA.
Yogama Boya, 18-year-old male, death by circumcision, July 2008, Qumbu area of Transkei, South Africa.
Johnson Killed. Age 2 years and 7 months. death by circumcision. 22 July 2008, Bari, Italy.
Jayvas Carson, full-term baby, born 15 Novmber 2008. Circumcised 28 November 2008 by Dr. Rachel Carson of Coeur d'Alene Pediatics. Died at Sacred Heart Children's Hospital, Spokane, Washington, 1 January 2009 after long series of complications that started with the loss of blood due to his non-therapeutic circumcision.
Bradley Dorcius, boy, 7-months-old. Death by circumcision, October 2009, SUNY Downstate Hospital. Brooklyn, New York, USA.
Kaan Otuk, boy, one-month-old. Death by circumcision anaesthesia overdose, 31 October 2009, Çukurova State Hospital, Adana, Turkey.
Sonke Foca, male, 19-years-old. Death by dehydration following circumcision, 11 November 2009, Butterworth, Transkei, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa.
Goodluck Caubergs, Baby. Bled to death after circumcision. Oldham, England, April 17, 2010.
Saijad Hossain Mimu, 6-years-old. Death by lidocaine anaesthetic overdose, 25 September 2010, Safapur, Amirbad Union,Sonagazi Upazila, Feni District in the Division of Chittagong, Bangladesh.
Joshua Haskins, 7-weeks old. Died 19 hours after having circumcision followed by prolonged bleeding, despite having congenital heart defect and being in intensive care. October 6, 2010, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA.
Jaamal Coleson, Jr., toddler, of Brooklyn, New York. Died at Beth Israel Medical Center, Manhattan, New York City after a circumcision on Tuesday, May 3, 2011.50
James Connor, infant, seven pounds eight ounces, 21 inches long. Born at Pittsburgh, Friday, November 25, 2011. Died Saturday night, November 26, 2011. Death by bleeding after circumcision.
Anonymous Jewish infant, two weeks old. Death from Herpes infection, Maimonides Hospital, Brookyn, New York, September 28, 2011.51
Angelo Ofori-Minhah, age 28-days, of Queen's Park, Northamptonshire, England, died on February 17, 2012 after being circumcised by Rabbi Mordehai Cohen on February 15, 2012. The cause of death was bleeding, exsanguination, and heart failure, according to the medical report. The infant was reported to have lost three-quarters of his total blood volume.
Two boys, Arif, age 4 and Azhar, age 3,in Rakasipet, Bodhan, Andhra Pradesh India. The boys died on Monday, April 30, 2012 after a circumcision a few days before by a rural medical practitioner at Masjid Colony in the Rakasipet area due to uncontrolled "overbleeding".
Infant boy, age two-weeks. Circumcised Sunday, 6 May 2012 in a doctor's office on the east side of Oslo, Norway. Died of complications Tuesday, 8 May 2012.
Braden Tyler Frazier. Born February 25, 2013 at Lodi, California. Died March 8, 2013 at Sacramento. Circumcised on the ninth day of life at Sacramento, California. Died on the eleventh day of life of hemorrhage and convulsions, secondary to circumcision.
Gugeluthu Molakapa, age 4, brain dead after a circumcision at Germiston Hospital, Johannesburg, South Africa, August 2013.


Just to be fair these cases are taken from the births of billions and billions of people all over the planet from the 1800s until now

Using similar statistical samples I bet a good case could be made for never stepping foot out of bed, never having sex, eating or getting a hair cut etc









Aylee -> RE: War on women (2/20/2015 8:47:42 AM)

I think that male circumcision should probably be in Health and Safety as health related issues are the usual reasons cited for the pro and con positions. It does have religious and political issues surrounding it, but no one has discussed those.

FGM presents NO health benefits that have been found.




hot4bondage -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 6:56:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

I think that male circumcision should probably be in Health and Safety as health related issues are the usual reasons cited for the pro and con positions. It does have religious and political issues surrounding it, but no one has discussed those.

FGM presents NO health benefits that have been found.


It's not just a health-related issue when body parts are lopped off without consent.




hot4bondage -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 7:23:32 AM)

Fair enough. I just wanted to put some names behind the statistics. ...And one could argue that the activities you mentioned are often more desirable than getting your dick chopped up.




CreativeDominant -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 7:42:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Thank GOD!!!



You're welcome!



Jehova

chuckles




Greta75 -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 7:50:07 AM)

It's interesting to see some Americans here not circumcised. But it baffles why a modern culture like USA still has prevalent practices on circumcision on male babies.

I never saw a circumcised dick in my life until I had sex with a USA male, and because I am not used to seeing circumcised dick, I really didn't appreciate the look of it.

And I think it's cruel to do that to male babies. It's taking away their right to choose to have skin on or skin off isn't it? All that lame excuses about babies don't feel or remember pain and how it would be more painful IF he decides to do it when he gets older, blah blah blah, doesn't matter, because he didn't have a choice.




CreativeDominant -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 9:48:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hot4bondage

...than getting your dick chopped up.

Shudders...cringes




DaddySatyr -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 10:02:08 AM)


and the very definition of "Bathroom menace" is a guy that was circumcised by a cross-eyed moyle.



Michael




CreativeDominant -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 1:35:20 PM)

Arrrrrgh!!!




PeonForHer -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 1:42:23 PM)

quote:

But it baffles why a modern culture like USA still has prevalent practices on circumcision on male babies.


The USA doesn't have a modern culture, Greta. Not by the standards of the rest of the western world.




KenDckey -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 3:58:24 PM)

A side of the thread War on Women

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/21/us-usa-immigration-court-asylumseekers-idUSKBN0LP00J20150221

Seems the administration was engaging in a war on selected women to send a message to others.




Sanity -> RE: War on women (2/21/2015 4:01:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

The USA doesn't have a modern culture, Greta. Not by the standards of the rest of the western world.


If you mean that we are not short, inbred islanders with bad teeth and bad manners, you might have a point




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