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quizzicalkitten -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:15:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Then its a damn amazingly good thing your not my sub.. Id see a lot of ducktape needing to be purchased....



Don't doubt that the feeling is mutual.

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


Im not an ssc player... thats for castle realmers..

We are rack or prick all the way in my house.


Fabulous to know. This has to do with the discussion at hand, how?

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

And people like you and shifty are exactly the reason why I dont take on female subs.



Why is that? What is it, specifically, about what you see of me that is so typical of female subs?

Is there trouble with someone having limits? Is there trouble with someone who is vocal about their likes and dislikes? Are male subs just *more malleable*?

I'm honestly interested in this. From day one on this site, I've seen female dominants complaining about male subs. And, frankly, I'm curious as to whether this is something that is an "online" thing, or if it really translates into day-to-day life.

I've got no skin in this game. I'm just looking at it from the perspective of someone who is trying to understand.



If you truly do want to understand perhaps you should not make assumptions about other people and their play...

My issue with both you and shifty is you assume the fuck out of other people's dynamics and instead of asking questions you make rude remarks....




shiftyw -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:21:27 PM)

Where did I make a rude remark in this thread?




GoddessManko -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:28:39 PM)

You know, this whole thing turned really ugly really fast so I'm gonna step in here and say, no one should take things said on this thread personally. It shouldn't have been started to begin with and it's unfortunate it deteriorated to people trying to take pointless jabs at each other (which was predictable from the start and this entire thread as prior stated had a disingenuous premise as anyone with eyes and ears knows men and women are different). Unfortunately some people decided to take the bait and run with it (bad idea) and I have only been debating based on FACTS. @ Lucy, misandrist, @shifty, I don't see what clothing or buttcracks have to do with fingers but OK (very clean thumbs up). Now can people drop this nonsense? It's just GotSteel's way to get the ladies riled over his inability to utilize his time better and it worked! Congratulations. Also special advice, if you are debating a female Domme about a male sub it is the equivalent of me trying to debate about Male Doms, Switches or poly"amory" which will pretty much never happen. K, thanks. If you decide to continue on this premise stated feel free. Also sexyred1 as stated I have been laughing throughout this entire thing otherwise I wouldn't bother but now my indifference is harboring into pity since I got a lot done and came back to this ergo current post.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:36:48 PM)

Seriously? You now are going to say that no one should take it personally?

HAHAHAHAHA this reminds me of newbies that come in and say something like "All dommes are pigs who just want money" and then when they are handed their ass on a platter, they come back and say they did it for research on a college paper they are writing.

edit to change a seriously to a personally




GoddessManko -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:42:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Seriously? You now are going to say that no one should take it personally?

HAHAHAHAHA this reminds me of newbies that come in and say something like "All dommes are pigs who just want money" and then when they are handed their ass on a platter, they come back and say they did it for research on a college paper they are writing.

edit to change a seriously to a personally


You're kidding. None of you are remotely on my radar as a threat as an FYI.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:44:03 PM)

wtf said anything about threats?




mnottertail -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:44:57 PM)

While we are comparing, I got a penis, what you got?




JstAnotherSub -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:45:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

While we are comparing, I got a penis, what you got?

I know the answer!!!!! The only answer can be "a mouth!"




sexyred1 -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:48:25 PM)

See, I read this whole thread and I don't see jabs. I only heard views from various people on they do things.

I think people are taking defensive postures unnecessarily and are seeing malice where there is none.

I mean, do any of you really, truly care what someone thinks of your personal dynamics?




mnottertail -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:49:06 PM)

see, the difference between men and women can easily be bridged, I give a lot, you give a little.


You are correct, Madame!!!




littleladybug -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 12:53:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


My issue with both you and shifty is you assume the fuck out of other people's dynamics and instead of asking questions you make rude remarks....



Ok, I wasn't aware of my assumptions or rudeness anywhere on here. Honestly, I don't give two shits about how others conduct themselves within their own dynamics, other than questioning what I have seen being a *general* idea that submission is somehow drastically different between males and females.

What's the topic here? m f comparisons-- I'm sincerely curious about this.

I've not had a whole lot of experience in my real time life with female dominants. Good, bad, otherwise, it is what it is. I've seen, on here, and other places online, that there is apparently a perceived difference between male and female subs, and I'm trying to understand it. I've had extended private conversations with female dominants about this issue.

If someone wants someone else to lick the floor and they will do it...have at it. I don't care, as much as I would expect that someone wouldn't care whether or not I cook naked.

But, is this what male submissiveness is "about"? Here's what I see...literally as someone who is an outsider. Female dominants bitching and moaning about men who "don't get it".

But, quizzical kitten, you have answered my question. These men have a fantasy of licking your floor clean. You accommodate that. *gasp* You actually let them have what they want out of a relationship.




Lucylastic -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:01:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

You know, this whole thing turned really ugly really fast so I'm gonna step in here and say, no one should take things said on this thread personally. It shouldn't have been started to begin with and it's unfortunate it deteriorated to people trying to take pointless jabs at each other (which was predictable from the start and this entire thread as prior stated had a disingenuous premise as anyone with eyes and ears knows men and women are different). Unfortunately some people decided to take the bait and run with it (bad idea) and I have only been debating based on FACTS. @ Lucy, misandrist, @shifty, I don't see what clothing or buttcracks have to do with fingers but OK (very clean thumbs up). Now can people drop this nonsense? It's just GotSteel's way to get the ladies riled over his inability to utilize his time better and it worked! Congratulations. Also special advice, if you are debating a female Domme about a male sub it is the equivalent of me trying to debate about Male Doms, Switches or poly"amory" which will pretty much never happen. K, thanks. If you decide to continue on this premise stated feel free. Also sexyred1 as stated I have been laughing throughout this entire thing otherwise I wouldn't bother but now my indifference is harboring into pity since I got a lot done and came back to this ergo current post.






I do know the correct words,
I said the correct word for what I meant.
And I know why i said what I said.

Ive stayed out of this thread, because my essential credo is different strokes for different folks, and this topic has hardly been that.


My experience is different to yours and a lot alike in other ways, however, what works for me, wouldnt work for you. and its the same with all the decent dommes on here, I can identify, with prodommes, I can identify with Fin Dommes, I can identify with submissive women in MLR I can identify with women in FLR relationships, I can identify as a top and a switch bottom. I can even identify with the Gorean philosophy even tho I dont agree with it, I can see the attraction, even if I would rather not partake.
I really get pissed off when people shit on each others kinks or lifestyle as being less than another.

Male subs ARE different to female submissives, and many male subs are seen as "less than" by many people involved in WIITWD,
by dominant men, female subs and female dommes, hell even some male subs, wrongly in way too many instances, but that is only an issue when they want to appear more twue.
Ive only done this for 18 years tho, I have a lot to learn, but I wont deal with people who think they are better than someone because they are "IR DOMINATE"
*this is a generic you*
Dominate all you want, in your relationship, enjoy it, be fullfilled, but why look down on someone because they dont like your kink or you theirs.
If you bring it here * Again this is a generic you* and expect to be respected because its your way, you are gonna be sadly unhappy.

Ive had my house cleaned by a submissive who wanted nothing in return, several times actually. What he got in return, is between us and our diaries.





JstAnotherSub -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:03:12 PM)

Lucy you have mail




Lucylastic -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:08:35 PM)

oooooooooooooh thank you:)


Edited to add, you have a response:)




GoddessManko -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:15:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I do know the correct words,
I said the correct word for what I meant.
And I know why i said what I said.

Ive stayed out of this thread, because my essential credo is different strokes for different folks, and this topic has hardly been that.


My experience is different to yours and a lot alike in other ways, however, what works for me, wouldnt work for you. and its the same with all the decent dommes on here, I can identify, with prodommes, I can identify with Fin Dommes, I can identify with submissive women in MLR I can identify with women in FLR relationships, I can identify as a top and a switch bottom. I can even identify with the Gorean philosophy even tho I dont agree with it, I can see the attraction, even if I would rather not partake.
I really get pissed off when people shit on each others kinks or lifestyle as being less than another.

Male subs ARE different to female submissives, and many male subs are seen as "less than" by many people involved in WIITWD,
by dominant men, female subs and female dommes, hell even some male subs, wrongly in way too many instances, but that is only an issue when they want to appear more twue.
Ive only done this for 18 years tho, I have a lot to learn, but I wont deal with people who think they are better than someone because they are "IR DOMINATE"
*this is a generic you*
Dominate all you want, in your relationship, enjoy it, be fullfilled, but why look down on someone because they dont like your kink or you theirs.
If you bring it here * Again this is a generic you* and expect to be respected because its your way, you are gonna be sadly unhappy.

Ive had my house cleaned by a submissive who wanted nothing in return, several times actually. What he got in return, is between us and our diaries.



OK, you mean like she seemed like she was a man who is a misogynist. Simple misread. I must reiterate you don't know me and I feel zero inclination to tout my conquests nor my current. So stop with the "this is generic you" nonsense as if we are actual friends or acquaintances. We both know that will never happen.




GoddessManko -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:18:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

See, I read this whole thread and I don't see jabs. I only heard views from various people on they do things.

I think people are taking defensive postures unnecessarily and are seeing malice where there is none.

I mean, do any of you really, truly care what someone thinks of your personal dynamics?


I have no idea what this means. I was speaking to the two ladies who were starting a full fledged catfight over this nonsense. Nothing at all about me, literally. I suggest you people stop assuming, this is really getting out of hand but LOL, at least I'm back in my normal silly mood.




Lucylastic -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:22:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I do know the correct words,
I said the correct word for what I meant.
And I know why i said what I said.

Ive stayed out of this thread, because my essential credo is different strokes for different folks, and this topic has hardly been that.


My experience is different to yours and a lot alike in other ways, however, what works for me, wouldnt work for you. and its the same with all the decent dommes on here, I can identify, with prodommes, I can identify with Fin Dommes, I can identify with submissive women in MLR I can identify with women in FLR relationships, I can identify as a top and a switch bottom. I can even identify with the Gorean philosophy even tho I dont agree with it, I can see the attraction, even if I would rather not partake.
I really get pissed off when people shit on each others kinks or lifestyle as being less than another.

Male subs ARE different to female submissives, and many male subs are seen as "less than" by many people involved in WIITWD,
by dominant men, female subs and female dommes, hell even some male subs, wrongly in way too many instances, but that is only an issue when they want to appear more twue.
Ive only done this for 18 years tho, I have a lot to learn, but I wont deal with people who think they are better than someone because they are "IR DOMINATE"
*this is a generic you*
Dominate all you want, in your relationship, enjoy it, be fullfilled, but why look down on someone because they dont like your kink or you theirs.
If you bring it here * Again this is a generic you* and expect to be respected because its your way, you are gonna be sadly unhappy.

Ive had my house cleaned by a submissive who wanted nothing in return, several times actually. What he got in return, is between us and our diaries.



OK, you mean like she seemed like she was a man who is a misogynist. Simple misread. I must reiterate you don't know me and I feel zero inclination to tout my conquests nor my current. So stop with the "this is generic you" nonsense as if we are actual friends or acquaintances. We both know that will never happen.



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I never stated otherwise, if I wanted to put you down or your relationship with the men in your life, I would have stated it AT you specifically, that last part was general feelings on the subject, HENCE the Generic YOU. Im sorry you cant accept that, but hey you take offense if you wish.

Im not shy about coming forward and to be quite honest, I havent counted you as a friend or otherwise NOT a friend, merely another female dominant with her own way of doing things, you seem to be reading a lot of shit into my comment.

You dont like my comment, fine, but do NOT accuse me of targeting you,, or being a mean bitch about your life, friends, or business, I really dont need the drama or the stupidity.
Now....
go pretend someone else is being a cunt to you...
it wont be me.




GoddessManko -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:27:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I never stated otherwise, if I wanted to put you down or your relationship with the men in your life, I would have stated it AT you specifically, that last part was general feelings on the subject, HENCE the Generic YOU. Im sorry you cant accept that, but hey you take offense if you wish.

Im not shy about coming forward and to be quite honest, I havent counted you as a friend or otherwise NOT a friend, merely another female dominant with her own way of doing things, you seem to be reading a lot of shit into my comment.

You dont like my comment, fine, but do NOT accuse me of targeting you,, or being a mean bitch about your life, friends, or business, I really dont need the drama or the stupidity.
Now....
go pretend someone else is being a cunt to you...
it wont be me.


So many words, so little time. I never said any of that and it would be the equivalent of a random homeless man on the streets walking up to me and hurling insults. I would just smile and nod, keep him in my line of sight and walk away. I don't need or want your acceptance. I have made this clear on several occasions yet you people continue with threads like this one. Of course this thread was started and continued about a comment I made and yet we pretend it's all light hearted and innocent when people are exchanging emails to each other and gossiping and asking personal questions literally about someone who really doesn't give a shit about them. Uhm, yea. Get a life might be too generic of a phrase for this. More "live and let life, alright matey?"




GotSteel -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:38:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug
What's the topic here?

Well in another thread, dreamlady was kind enough to dig it up: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4789295/mpage_1/tm.htm

Some people were making comparisons between male and female submissive dynamics. The demand was made that we stop because "totally different ballgame here".

It seems to me that while some differences tend to exist for example mnottertail thinks it's important that we know he "got a penis", however even if nothing else simply by virtue of male subs also being human being we should expect them to have some things in common with other humans and not be totally different.

I mean it's not like we're comparing femsubs to space lobsters here.

As such I asked the person making said demand to meet her burden of proof and justify it, thus far I'm still waiting.




Lucylastic -> RE: m f comparisions (3/13/2015 1:39:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

So many words, so little time. I never said any of that and it would be the equivalent of a random homeless man on the streets walking up to me and hurling insults. I would just smile and nod, keep him in my line of sight and walk away. I don't need or want your acceptance. I have made this clear on several occasions yet you people continue with threads like this one. Of course this thread was started and continued about a comment I made and yet we pretend it's all light hearted and innocent when people are exchanging emails to each other and gossiping and asking personal questions literally about someone who really doesn't give a shit about them. Uhm, yea. Get a life might be too generic of a phrase for this. More "live and let life, alright matey?"



no what you said was
I must reiterate you don't know me and I feel zero inclination to tout my conquests nor my current. So stop with the "this is generic you" nonsense as if we are actual friends or acquaintances. We both know that will never happen.

You live your life your way, thats fine with me, I believe I actually MENTIONED that...
oh yes, loook
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I havent counted you as a friend or otherwise NOT a friend,you seem to be reading a lot of shit into my comment.

Is there something wrong with your comprehension???
I know there is nothing wrong with mine,

Neither have I asked you a personal question, I dont care enough...because you are merely another female dominant with her own way of doing things,
for someone who doesnt care about anyone, even mentally ill people shouting at her, you seem to be getting more venemous, maybe a nap would help
Im gonna be taking one,.,
Cos yanno Your intimate life, is less interesting to me than the fact that I have a zit on my nose, It doesnt affect anything around me....its NOT my ego
What you post here however is open to debate, criticism, support or whatever people feel you are saying...

Nope the saying is , different strokes for different folks




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