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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 1:03:26 PM   
Wayward5oul


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Status: offline 		You may think that you asked a simple question, but you didn't. Maybe its a simple matter of not wording your thoughts correctly, but regardless, it came across as very whiny. That's why you are getting so much flak.

For example, from your original post:

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?


You did not ask 'do you think women have more opportunity...', as you claimed in your last post. Don't you think is not asking for input, it is asking for validation. That type of wording implies that you believe the statement and you expect others to agree as well.

Again, from your original post:

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
The reason women complain is because they don't give anyone a chance.


Again, a statement, not a question. You made a negative statement about women, using one example, and applied it to women in general. You did not ask, you declared.

Both statements sound whiny and resentful.

And you continued to repeat those statements and elaborate on them throughout this thread.

quote:


I believe that if a woman wants to find a significant other she is going to have to put in a lot of energy and effort.


quote:


The ones who are complaining that "I can't find any good man" and they are getting 100's of emails are not putting in the energy and effort that is required.


So while yes, you are getting a lot of flak, you opened yourself up to it. You did not just ask a simple question.

Just something to think about.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 1:15:02 PM   
MathewIndio


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

You may think that you asked a simple question, but you didn't. Maybe its a simple matter of not wording your thoughts correctly, but regardless, it came across as very whiny. That's why you are getting so much flak.

For example, from your original post:

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?


You did not ask 'do you think women have more opportunity...', as you claimed in your last post. Don't you think is not asking for input, it is asking for validation. That type of wording implies that you believe the statement and you expect others to agree as well.

Again, from your original post:

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
The reason women complain is because they don't give anyone a chance.


Again, a statement, not a question. You made a negative statement about women, using one example, and applied it to women in general. You did not ask, you declared.

Both statements sound whiny and resentful.

And you continued to repeat those statements and elaborate on them throughout this thread.

quote:


I believe that if a woman wants to find a significant other she is going to have to put in a lot of energy and effort.


quote:


The ones who are complaining that "I can't find any good man" and they are getting 100's of emails are not putting in the energy and effort that is required.


So while yes, you are getting a lot of flak, you opened yourself up to it. You did not just ask a simple question.

Just something to think about.



I completely understand what you are saying. Thank you for pointing that out. I can now see why I'm getting so much flak from certain posters. When I post again I'll have to be more careful in the wording.

In any case, there were several reasonable responses that changed my thinking. I can see how women don't have more opportunities then men on dating sites. It's pretty much the same for both sides.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 1:22:30 PM   
RockaRolla


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Status: offline 		Another reason this type of topic get so much hate mail (so to speak) is that it comes up so often, mostly in the form of disgruntled men complaining that not one of the 50 women they messaged that day responded. While it's not fair that it gets taken out on every new poster, we do tend to get tired of having to explain to every guy, repeatedly, that personal safety sometimes trumps what is perceived as "courtesy."

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 1:28:24 PM   
MathewIndio


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Another reason this type of topic get so much hate mail (so to speak) is that it comes up so often, mostly in the form of disgruntled men complaining that not one of the 50 women they messaged that day responded. While it's not fair that it gets taken out on every new poster, we do tend to get tired of having to explain to every guy, repeatedly, that personal safety sometimes trumps what is perceived as "courtesy."


I was wondering why certain posters were giving me so much "hate mail (so to speak)." I now realize I worded things wrong and that it is a repeated topic that people get tired of.

I do appreciate WaywardSoul and yourself for pointing these things out to me. Thank you. :)

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 3:30:20 PM   
Kittenluv954


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Status: offline 		interesting he has no comments for all the garbage I posted directly from my inbox. no comments as to THESE being the "opportunities" he speaks of.... I can't even make this shit up lol

Kittenluv954 on 3/21/15 at 6:22 PM:

LMFAO.





DudebroticusInGermany on 3/21/15 at 9:28 AM:

I believe in the total Superiority and Domination of Men over females, for they are nothing but garbage. Men are Gods and are naturally and righteously violent as they are meant to be. females are pathetic and are born to accept, with deep and abiding gratitude, any and all violence Men do to them, no matter how extreme. females are born to be raped, kept constantly bred, beaten, tortured. females have one reason for being born - to serve the pleasure of Holy Cock in whatever way is demanded of them, without question or hesitation. Do ee agree on that? Pig!

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 3:35:46 PM   
Moderator3


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I would recommend reporting emails such as that one. Thank you for not promoting the nickname.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 3:41:31 PM   
Kittenluv954


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Status: offline 		I did, and blocked him. But you know, there is always another idiot hot on the heels of the last. these are the wonderful opportunities the OP is lamenting about. I wouldn't wish these "opportunities" on him, that's for sure.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 3:44:29 PM   
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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 4:20:21 PM   
crazyml


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Status: offline 		You know that it's possible to read the first couple of lines of an incoming email without opening it don't ya?

So the chances are they'll open an email that contains a faintly interesting opening.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 7:30:30 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Idiots like the one kittenluv got an email from don't even faze me. The ones from guys who see you're a single parent and write demanding to train you and your female TOS violation are much worse.

And self protection shouldn't just 'sometimes' trump courtesy, it should always do so.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 7:31:59 PM   
RockaRolla


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Status: offline 		Why is it that those who boast about their own sex's superiority, often refuse to act accordingly?

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 8:11:27 PM   
tiggerspoohbear


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Status: offline 		Brain disconnect Rocka, small head vs big head too.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 8:49:34 PM   
RockaRolla


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

Brain disconnect Rocka, small head vs big head too.

I'll buy that, but I also see it among some Dommes who believe in female supremacy.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/21/2015 8:58:44 PM   
sexyred1


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Why don't you now start another ridiculous thread discussing why women hover over the first few lines of an email and then delete it?


No, I don't have any interest in doing that. Why don't you create a thread instead of suggesting other people do it?



I wouldn't create a thread like that. I leave that to the whiny guys who it takes 10 pages to even acknowledge they are wrong.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 7:44:42 AM   
Kana


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?

Define opportunity.
I mean, this is the critical point of the whole question. This is why, when doing surveys, wording is everything.

If you mean do they have inboxes stuffed full like they wish their cunts were-sure.
But an email box full of spam doesn't necessarily mean that there's any real offers in the mix.
Quantity does not mean quality and usually means the obverse

My experience is that if you're a Man who knows what he's about, know how to approach people and act, and are actually dominant, you won't have any issues finding a chica. Here or elsewhere
Now maybe this is different on Match or nilla sites (I suspect it is, but who knows. Nilla women-all they do is complain about not being able to find good men either. Fuck, they have TV shows dedicated to this ), but really, in a lot of ways, I suspect that on a place like this, it may actually be far easier for a man to find someone than the other way around.
Grins-we sure have a lot less garbage to weed through.
This is very true in real life also. Go to a munch. Step back, sit still and really watch the dynamics at play. Its fucking fascinating. The doms that know what they are doing, that have some rep-they ain't single. Many have pick of the litter. And there's almost always an alleycat slave or two prowling and slinking about in the corner, waiting to pounce if something happens and His relationship status abruptly changes. Watch. Those guys, they don't stay single long unless they wanna.

Cripes. If nilla chicks can't find a decent guy, what makes you think BDSM, which ain't exactly a hotbed of mental health, especially on the male side, and is also small, and frequently almost incestuously interconnected, is going to be easier.

Maybe the real problem is a severe and chronic shortage of decent Men.
Not boys or whiny bitches.
Not Christian freaking Grey.

Men.

Just saying'



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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 8:04:15 AM   
Kaliko


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?

Define opportunity.
I mean, this is the critical point of the whole question. This is why, when doing surveys, wording is everything.

If you mean do they have inboxes stuffed full like they wish their cunts were-sure.
But an email box full of spam doesn't necessarily mean that there's any real offers in the mix.
Quantity does not mean quality and usually means the obverse

My experience is that if you're a Man who knows what he's about, know how to approach people and act, and are actually dominant, you won't have any issues finding a chica. Here or elsewhere
Now maybe this is different on Match or nilla sites (I suspect it is, but who knows. Nilla women-all they do is complain about not being able to find good men either. Fuck, they have TV shows dedicated to this ), but really, in a lot of ways, I suspect that on a place like this, it may actually be far easier for a man to find someone than the other way around.
Grins-we sure have a lot less garbage to weed through.
This is very true in real life also. Go to a munch. Step back, sit still and really watch the dynamics at play. Its fucking fascinating. The doms that know what they are doing, that have some rep-they ain't single. Many have pick of the litter. And there's almost always an alleycat slave or two prowling and slinking about in the corner, waiting to pounce if something happens and His relationship status abruptly changes. Watch. Those guys, they don't stay single long unless they wanna.

Cripes. If nilla chicks can't find a decent guy, what makes you think BDSM, which ain't exactly a hotbed of mental health, especially on the male side, and is also small, and frequently almost incestuously interconnected, is going to be easier.

Maybe the real problem is a severe and chronic shortage of decent Men.
Not boys or whiny bitches.
Not Christian freaking Grey.

Men.

Just saying'




I think this is spot on.



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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 8:04:18 AM   
NookieNotes


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
Maybe the real problem is a severe and chronic shortage of decent Men.
Not boys or whiny bitches.
Not Christian freaking Grey.

Men.

Just saying'


I really think that there is a chronic shortage of decent human beings, or, rather, that it all evens out. There are about the same number of men and women and about the same levels of decency. It's finding the right level of types of decency to fit our own that makes it seems so hard.

Oh, and that is we are really not decent people, for some reason, we still want a decent mate... and think we deserve one.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 8:58:56 AM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		I know far more decent human beings who are smart, attractive, successful, compassionate, witty and loyal women who are single than men.

I agree with Kana.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 9:52:13 AM   
shiftyw


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Status: offline 		I don't know.

I know decent single folks all over the spectrum. However I find those decent single folks are all looking for the holy grail- their standards are crazy high, which I think is fine- because none of them bitch and moan about when they have a hard time finding a partner. None of them feel owed anything. Many would rather be alone or go without sex than compromise on their standards.

I think that is often why these threads bother me, because I think some folks get frustrated too easily by their own standards, you set those standards and you can change them and be more or less flexible. Your standards and wants define your opportunity.


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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/22/2015 9:58:28 AM   
crazyml


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: MathewIndio
Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?

Define opportunity.
I mean, this is the critical point of the whole question. This is why, when doing surveys, wording is everything.

If you mean do they have inboxes stuffed full like they wish their cunts were-sure.
But an email box full of spam doesn't necessarily mean that there's any real offers in the mix.
Quantity does not mean quality and usually means the obverse

My experience is that if you're a Man who knows what he's about, know how to approach people and act, and are actually dominant, you won't have any issues finding a chica. Here or elsewhere
Now maybe this is different on Match or nilla sites (I suspect it is, but who knows. Nilla women-all they do is complain about not being able to find good men either. Fuck, they have TV shows dedicated to this ), but really, in a lot of ways, I suspect that on a place like this, it may actually be far easier for a man to find someone than the other way around.
Grins-we sure have a lot less garbage to weed through.
This is very true in real life also. Go to a munch. Step back, sit still and really watch the dynamics at play. Its fucking fascinating. The doms that know what they are doing, that have some rep-they ain't single. Many have pick of the litter. And there's almost always an alleycat slave or two prowling and slinking about in the corner, waiting to pounce if something happens and His relationship status abruptly changes. Watch. Those guys, they don't stay single long unless they wanna.

Cripes. If nilla chicks can't find a decent guy, what makes you think BDSM, which ain't exactly a hotbed of mental health, especially on the male side, and is also small, and frequently almost incestuously interconnected, is going to be easier.

Maybe the real problem is a severe and chronic shortage of decent Men.
Not boys or whiny bitches.
Not Christian freaking Grey.

Men.

Just saying'




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