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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/20/2015 1:35:36 PM   
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You mention "many more moments" in which conservatives behaved beyond a tragedy. Why don't you bring forth some of those moments? You know...some moments when a conservative soldier shot his fellow soldiers down in a politically/religiously-motivated killing.


Oklahoma City Bombing, 4/19/95.



bama, id say about 20 yrs worth of venom---

never minding an ability to distinguish between "many more moments" and "one" and "soldiers" and "civilians."

and further, the mental gymnastics necessary to turn timothy McVeigh into a "conservative."

McVeigh is all they have to work with so even if it doesn't fit at all they have to stick with it.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/20/2015 1:43:15 PM   
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what mental gymnastics are necessary for that?

although since there are no conservatives, you can't make that claim against the non-existant.

but dial it into rightwingers then you got it. Larry McQuillan for instance, as well as McVeigh, Jerad Miller, Frazier Miller, David Page, Terry McNichols, all the abortion clinic shooters and bombers, Jim Atkinsson, and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and.................................


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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/20/2015 3:41:46 PM   
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what mental gymnastics are necessary for that?

although since there are no conservatives, you can't make that claim against the non-existant.

but dial it into rightwingers then you got it. Larry McQuillan for instance, as well as McVeigh, Jerad Miller, Frazier Miller, David Page, Terry McNichols, all the abortion clinic shooters and bombers, Jim Atkinsson, and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and.................................

Well...no conservatives except you and William Buckley...at least, as decided by you.

As for the others...yep, all part of the LOONY right wing. Sort of like Bill Ayers on the left.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/20/2015 5:12:25 PM   
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Hmmm...Larry McQuillan

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-mcquillan/15/6061
OR
http://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=16

Jerad Miller: Identified strongly with the Joker (an anarchistic cartoon villain) with a hard-on against government. Lunatic right wing. Much like Jared Loughner from the left.

Frazier Miller. Former leader of the now-defunct N. Carolina KKK. A white, racist right wing loony...Much like Colin Ferguson was a racist, black left wing loony.

David Page. If you mean Wade Michael Page, he was a white supremacist. Killed 6 Sikhs. Former military, dishonorably discharged. Much like Zale Thompson and Alton Nolen who though they did not serve in the military (probably too chicken-shit) were self-styled Black Supremacists before they became radical jihadists...All loons, Page from the far right and Nolen and Thompson from the left.

The thing is...none of them were active military. None of them conservative or liberal or progressive. All from the LOONY right or LOONY left.

If you were honestly trying to help Joether...And not just give yourself an excuse to bash the right...you failed.



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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/20/2015 7:28:53 PM   
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An that is just a fantasy. Unfortunately a fantasy that conservatives have worked into their minds as being a future reality (with all the levels of anxiety, frustration, fear, and anger that would logically come with it). This would be a real example of a people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. While both paranoia and schizophrenia by themselves can be serious illnesses; combining the two creates an even more dangerous individual.


...and they are all armed to the teeth. Am I the only one who finds that scary?

People with severe mental problems (eg paranoia, schizophrenia, high anxiety and anger levels etc) and guns are not a healthy mix. It's not good for their own health, or the health of any one around them.



Have you always been this bigoted or is it something you have worked on over the years? And does it stretch to other areas of your life or is it solely a political thing? Just curious where all the hate comes from.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 2:21:14 AM   
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An that is just a fantasy. Unfortunately a fantasy that conservatives have worked into their minds as being a future reality (with all the levels of anxiety, frustration, fear, and anger that would logically come with it). This would be a real example of a people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. While both paranoia and schizophrenia by themselves can be serious illnesses; combining the two creates an even more dangerous individual.


...and they are all armed to the teeth. Am I the only one who finds that scary?

People with severe mental problems (eg paranoia, schizophrenia, high anxiety and anger levels etc) and guns are not a healthy mix. It's not good for their own health, or the health of any one around them.



Have you always been this bigoted or is it something you have worked on over the years? And does it stretch to other areas of your life or is it solely a political thing? Just curious where all the hate comes from.



If you interpret expressing a concern that people with severe mental issues and lethal weapons are "not a healthy mix" as "hate" and "bigotry", then either:
(a) you have no idea of what the words 'hate' and 'bigotry' actually mean; and/or
(b) you are unaware of the dangers presented by arming mentally unstable people with lethal weapons; or
(c) you enjoy trolling, specialising in twisting the words of others to impute meanings that are totally absent from the orginal to score imagined political or personal points; or
(d) all or any mix of the above.

Whatever the case there is little point in responding in the future to someone who has difficulties understanding the everyday meanings of common ordinary four- or seven-letter words. As for the content of your posts, they are consistently so moronically puerile that it is not worth the effort to give them the mocking they so richly deserve, that would be a bit like using an elephant gun to swat a fly.

Do come back after you have completed a remedial literacy course. I understand these are available at low cost at a community college near you. Speaking as an education professional, I strongly recommend you enlist for the next available course.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 11:11:56 AM   
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An that is just a fantasy. Unfortunately a fantasy that conservatives have worked into their minds as being a future reality (with all the levels of anxiety, frustration, fear, and anger that would logically come with it). This would be a real example of a people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

I find it fascinating that you chose to frame the situation in terms of paranoid schizophrenia.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 12:39:51 PM   
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what would you couch it in terms of?



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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 1:05:56 PM   
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An that is just a fantasy. Unfortunately a fantasy that conservatives have worked into their minds as being a future reality (with all the levels of anxiety, frustration, fear, and anger that would logically come with it). This would be a real example of a people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. While both paranoia and schizophrenia by themselves can be serious illnesses; combining the two creates an even more dangerous individual.


...and they are all armed to the teeth. Am I the only one who finds that scary?

People with severe mental problems (eg paranoia, schizophrenia, high anxiety and anger levels etc) and guns are not a healthy mix. It's not good for their own health, or the health of any one around them.



Have you always been this bigoted or is it something you have worked on over the years? And does it stretch to other areas of your life or is it solely a political thing? Just curious where all the hate comes from.



If you interpret expressing a concern that people with severe mental issues and lethal weapons are "not a healthy mix" as "hate" and "bigotry", then either:
(a) you have no idea of what the words 'hate' and 'bigotry' actually mean; and/or
(b) you are unaware of the dangers presented by arming mentally unstable people with lethal weapons; or
(c) you enjoy trolling, specialising in twisting the words of others to impute meanings that are totally absent from the orginal to score imagined political or personal points; or
(d) all or any mix of the above.

Whatever the case there is little point in responding in the future to someone who has difficulties understanding the everyday meanings of common ordinary four- or seven-letter words. As for the content of your posts, they are consistently so moronically puerile that it is not worth the effort to give them the mocking they so richly deserve, that would be a bit like using an elephant gun to swat a fly.

Do come back after you have completed a remedial literacy course. I understand these are available at low cost at a community college near you. Speaking as an education professional, I strongly recommend you enlist for the next available course.


You were supporting joethers highly exaggerated paranoid schizophrenia claim. Since the subject is about people from Texas being lumped together as whack jobs = conservatives (the imaginary world according to joe), your post seems bigoted towards Texans.

I'm sure the number of whack jobs possessing firearms is by and large roughly the same throughout most of the states We all have concerns about that. I would guess your solution would be to put more gun restrictions on me.

Now, I'm going to go hug my .45. Don'tcha feel the love ?

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 1:17:42 PM   
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Hmmm...Larry McQuillan

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-mcquillan/15/6061
OR
http://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=16

Jerad Miller: Identified strongly with the Joker (an anarchistic cartoon villain) with a hard-on against government. Lunatic right wing. Much like Jared Loughner from the left.

Frazier Miller. Former leader of the now-defunct N. Carolina KKK. A white, racist right wing loony...Much like Colin Ferguson was a racist, black left wing loony.

David Page. If you mean Wade Michael Page, he was a white supremacist. Killed 6 Sikhs. Former military, dishonorably discharged. Much like Zale Thompson and Alton Nolen who though they did not serve in the military (probably too chicken-shit) were self-styled Black Supremacists before they became radical jihadists...All loons, Page from the far right and Nolen and Thompson from the left.

The thing is...none of them were active military. None of them conservative or liberal or progressive. All from the LOONY right or LOONY left.

If you were honestly trying to help Joether...And not just give yourself an excuse to bash the right...you failed.




I said rightwingers. There are no conservatives. There are some moderate republicans, but I can't name them offhand, the rest are loons.

I wasnt trying to help anyone out, shoot all the rightwing loonies. Your second link doesnt work, perhaps you can find someone to help you out.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 2:04:34 PM   
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what would you couch it in terms of?

It's one thing to call people crazy, but paranoid schizophrenia? That's awfully specific! I don't think psychodiagnostics is within joether's range of competence. Oddly enough, though, it is not uncommon for paranoid schizophrenics to imagine that they possess delusional abilities.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 2:22:34 PM   
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I see, they can be paranoid and all sorts of hallucinatory and hysterical without being schizophrenic.

And these idiots are spewing horseshit left and right, and schizos are generally quiet for hours at a time, listening to the voices in their head.

Fair point, well made.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 2:46:07 PM   
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You could combine all of those and it still wouldn't be half as bad as our current President. Its no surprise that racist runs high and deep in conservative political thought process. An not just towards blacks but all other minorities. Conservatives are even hateful towards women. And anyone making less than $40,000/year. The only think with more hate than the average conservative or libertarian is the Devil!

A left wing fantasy.
Right a comedy show or a man who if you have met him (as I have) you can quickly see is cut from the same cloth as David Dukes. BTW I have also met his brother who agrees with me. So I consider your sources to be bogus.


Its not much of a fantasy when its easy to prove. That you choose to wear blinders 24/7 is not my problem. The amount of evidence is as extensive as that for Climate Change (which is another subject matter many conservatives ignore in favor of ignorance). We once had a thread on here in which all the conservatives were using photos of a Tea Party rally at the time. Showing us in a photo of hundreds if not thousands the one token black person; and saying its not about race.

If conservatives were not hateful towards women, explain why abortion is such a 'big deal'? As such conservatives are constantly trying to undermined Roe vs. Wade decision in many hundreds if not thousands of concepts. Further trying to remove the Affordable Care Act as it allows women options for free screenings against cancer (regardless of plan type). Third, conservatives hate the idea of Hillary being a US President on the grounds that its "a man's job'. News for ya, BamaD, Hillary is more of a man than all the GOP/TP candidates (all 27+ of them) combined!

If conservatives didnt have problems with people making under $40,000, why all the attacks on the poor? From removing food stamps to tightening Photo IDs; Where does the homeless guy place his ID so its not stolen? Conservatives assume poor people use food stamps to buy everything from cruise line tickets to illegal drugs. The evidence points to the opposite direction (often below average Americans). Third, which party states we have to many welfare moms on the basis that 'someone has to stay home and raise the kids'? Yes, in the mindset of conservatives, both parents should work and kides too once they hit the age of 8.

An the minorities? What was the negative issues about children fleeing from gangs, drugs, war, disease, violence, and even death itself? Because we didnt have room in the United States. Place them in Utah and North Dakota; Not like many people live in both states. Further that conservatives are alarmed, disgrunted, angry, and even out right pissed that a black man was elected to the White House. Or notion that the grand majority of illegals are just from Mexico; they might have crossed there but are not citizens of that nation. How about that pseudo militia that thought a bunch of researchers studying bats in the wild were illegal immigrants; nearly fired on the defenseless individuals. Hate to break it to you, but a 'well regulated militia' takes orders from the civilian population at the local, country, state, and federal levels (in case your confused); those that dont, are not militia, just thugs with guns.

All these things and more are....EASY.....to source. An in that process, I'll find many more examples. I'm sure Lucy, Tweak, and a few others that are the 'researchers' on this forum could add dozens of examples......EACH. You and other conservatives didnt have decent counter arguments when they came up in previous threads. Why should we think you would now? Because you 'thought on it'?

Dont make me laugh....


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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 3:11:11 PM   
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If in 18 Cruz holds an exercise in which Mass is declared to be hostile territory how secure will you feel?

I'm not even understanding what your asking here exactly, BamaD. Normally you do ask questions I can understand. So I'm going to take an educated guess on the question and try to answer it, OK?

If Massachusetts was declared a 'hostile' place on some training exercise for the US Military, I really wouldn't be 'flying off the handle' in rage or insanity. Yeah, as a typical 'Masshole' I would inquire with the folks from the Military what they are doing. Getting all the normal questions out of the way. Asking for clarification on military slang or acronyms (The US Military loves its many acronyms). I can't really speak how others in the state might react to it.

I could give you an comparison to what it might look like. A few years ago our Federal Representative tried to explain the Affordable Care Act in a 'town hall' style meeting (similar to the Bastop, TX video with that Lt. Colonel. While the majority of the people were civil and mature, the conservative ring wingers behave like a bunch of children. They were distracting, rude, threatening, and obnoxious. The person is just explaining what the law is and does; not staying why they support the law.

Needless to say the Representative doesn't do these 'Town Hall' meetings anymore. They and others have to spend more time with the conservative 'children' then the adults whom are mature and civilized and wished to have information on what ever issue was currently being discussed.

So you would do the same thing that Texans are doing. You just put it in a different light when you do it.


No, I agree with those folks that asked reasonable questions. The other 2/3rds of people in that room in Bastop simply displayed a fear and ignorance of the reality. Its one thing to ask what the purpose of training is for. Its another to question whether FEMA will put people into concentration camps. Since FEMA is not doing anything with the training exercises.

Meaning, its one thing to seek questions to reasonable answers. Its another to let fear control your thoughts on something totally imaginary. The grand majority of people around here have no problem with the US Government or the US Military. The folks in Texas have problems with both organizations apparently. Just as apparent that they have been sucked into believing wild stories and concepts about both organizations enough to erode even a fair level of trust.

Wrong.
They don't trust politicians, who does. You have too many preconceived unfounded notions about what us hicks in flyover country think, like the opposition to Obama is based on race. Most of them are BS. What you see them as distrusting government and with no foundation the military. We see you as longing for big brother.


ALL THE QUESTIONS at the town meeting in Bastop, TX were directed NOT to the politicians sitting in chairs. But to a Lt. Colonel in the United States Army. Last I checked, members of the US Military can not hold elected positions in government. Therefore, (if we are using logic), Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria is NOT a politician. Tell me this is not a hard concept for you to comprehend?

The politicians were there because its town government; they are required to be there. Their presence was not just because things were required, but to interject as needed when they could supply better information. Also, to keep things moving and keep order.

What do I think about 'fly over hicks' in Texas? Nothing really....

How you choose to present yourself, ultimately dictates the image I'll see of you. You show the signs of someone suffering from paranoid schizophrenia; I'm not going to treat you as someone 'in full awareness of reality, their body, their mind, and their actions/words'. There were questions being asked that had...NOTHING...to do with the training exercises even in the least. Unlike the persons asking the question, the Lt. Colonel was a professional. The military understands that folks in that area are wary of the US Government. So rather than insulting and sending them some 2nd Lieutenant. They sent a Lt. Colonel. That's to show respect.

'Big Brother'? Is that....REALLY....your best argument now? Its a training exercise, nothing more. That you are inputting wild fantasies and conspiracies is not my problem, but yours. I know one guy that lives in the 'hostile' area of California. He really doesn't have any problems with the training exercises. He actually looks forward to it (he's a military buff that loves photography). An he, like you, is a conservative voter. However, unlike you, he lives in reality. Long before I posted this thread, I asked him about it at length. He's not a modern day conservative whom is told what and how to think by a political group of people (that don't give a shit about them) on just about everything from hand soap to nuclear winter. He stated he has no reason to disbelieve the Lt. Colonel or the motivations of the Pentagon. He said he might hold a BBQ for those guys; just to say 'thank you'.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 3:32:55 PM   
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what would you couch it in terms of?

It's one thing to call people crazy, but paranoid schizophrenia? That's awfully specific! I don't think psychodiagnostics is within joether's range of competence. Oddly enough, though, it is not uncommon for paranoid schizophrenics to imagine that they possess delusional abilities.


Yes your 'not studied' background into the soft sciences is showing again. People in the medical and scientific community rarely use 'crazy' to describe someone. They use more exactly terminology. I've observed that your understanding of these things have been very limited if non-existant in the past. The sad thing is you have this tool called 'The Internet' that could be used to study information. When I stated 'paranoid schizophrenia', most educated and informed people that do not know the subject matter, will look it up. Those that are not, babble out complete bullshit. Like what you did....

Let's brake it down for you Kirata....

Paranoia:

"a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality."

Schizophrenia:

"a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation."

From the DSM 5.

Paranoid Schizophrenia is listed as a sub-type of Schizophrenia more than Paranoia. The link has a pile of useful information.

While it would be exceeding dangerous if not irresponsible to label an entire group of people with this dreadful illness (not that you would consider something like that); none the less, that they display this mentality should be concerning to anyone close to them. Its one thing to have a paranoid schizophrenic under a doctor/therapist's care. It quite a bit different for someone going without care, with easy access to firearms and a focus for their illness to manifest itself further. Dangerous combination.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 4:05:02 PM   
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ALL THE QUESTIONS at the town meeting in Bastop, TX were directed NOT to the politicians sitting in chairs. But to a Lt. Colonel in the United States Army. Last I checked, members of the US Military can not hold elected positions in government.


You are such a liar.

You have never checked because that is a bald-faced LIE!

ETA:

The rest of your post and the next was filled with lies as well. But that one. . . seriously? Why would you even say that?

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 4:21:42 PM   
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ALL THE QUESTIONS at the town meeting in Bastop, TX were directed NOT to the politicians sitting in chairs. But to a Lt. Colonel in the United States Army. Last I checked, members of the US Military can not hold elected positions in government.


You are such a liar.

You have never checked because that is a bald-faced LIE!

ETA:

The rest of your post and the next was filled with lies as well. But that one. . . seriously? Why would you even say that?
The same reason that he has decided these people...because they are distrustful of government and DARE to question the military and the governing politicos working with them...must be paranoid schizophrenic.

You'll notice...that of all the people he's answered...he's yet to answer my direct questions in my last post to him.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 4:37:13 PM   
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Bottom line, for the purposes of this thread Scalia knows his stuff and the world court is of no importance, I will remember this. And you are the one who brought up Texas leaving the Union not me.


Justice Scalia has to know things. He would have had to do so to get hired to the court system in the first place. Further to handle a Congressional process that places him as one of nine US Supreme Court Justices. That I disagree with his views on many things, and explain why what those are in detail, should show the casual observe there is more understanding to things than what your stating here.

If the United States was following the World Court, George W. Bush and most of his 'crew' would have been dragged in irons to stand trial for crimes against humanity. That the more extremist conservatives and libertarians would be about a hundred times more so then they are right now. The whole 'New World Order', and many other conspiracy theories fly faster than the speed of light in conservative areas. We both know this is true.

No, you brought up the idea of Texas leaving the USA. I brought up the idea that Texas has to resist and spy on the US Military as it conducts training exercises (for irrational reasons).

from post #1 (in case you forget it is yours)

If a bunch of special forces can defend all the open carrying gun nuts, the Texas National Guard, and all the law enforcement within just a month or two; I think its fair to say those jokers are in trouble if they tried to succeed the state from the US Government (which they cant legally speaking). Since the whole of the US Military would easily overwhelm Texas if it did.

You may now apologize.


That you can't distiquish between concept and reality, is not my problem! The highlight part is a concept. I brought up information that has been i nthe news (i.e. easily verifiable). Within that information, stated that Texas should resist and spy on the US Military. That's what's called reality.

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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 5:14:33 PM   
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DUDE....you really got to learn how to use basic HTML...

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I myself almost joined the military. Unfortunately I was to tall....

i just read the height maximum is 80 inches. so you are taller than 6'8"?


So by logic, if I couldn't join the military because I stated I was to tall, that would imply I'm beyond the 6'8" mark.

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but more interesting to me (since your premise seems to largely rest on this):


'My Height' and 'how conservatives vote' is not enough in reality to make a fair comparison.

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ORIGINAL: joether
...conservatives as a mass make up 80-90% of 'The Low Information Voter' bracket in this nation.

id absolutely love to see evidence of that.


Given that your living in the country, it should not be to hard to find. Conservatives...DID...give us George W. Bush. A guy that murdered the English language. Not to mention crazy conspiracies and ideas on how to fix things in America.

That you ignore the many instances of threads and the posts within them, of conservatives behaving dimwitted towards what ever the state topic was defined, is not my problem. The evidence exists on the forum. Go look it up!

Need an example to help 'wet your appetite'? Having to explain to someone what the concepts of 'paranoia', 'schizophrenia', and 'paranoid schizophrenia' are in medical terms and sourcing the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual (5th Ed.). That this person didn't know these three terms nor that I obtained them using a technology known as 'The Internet'. Further, that he would label persons suffering from any of these three illnesses in a manner the health community would not: 'crazy'.

'Low Information Voters' are the type of people that do not bother obtaining good information when dealing with some obstacle, idea, or event. They don't check nor research information to see if its valid, correct, and true. Very easy to manipulate and control. A group of people that do not realize they are made fools of; nor listen to anyone that has good information, because they are told by the group giving the false information not to trust those that would give true/good information.

I read the Affordable Care Act. Not one place within it talks about or explains 'Death Panels'. Nor the previous versions of that bill. Not even the original that cam from a new President in the White House, Mr. Obama. Yet, conservatives were all to happy to be 'informed' of such a concept being within the framework. Not once checking to see if that is true; because, why would Sarah Palin lie?

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
and also, evidence of another part of your premise---there are no liberals or moderates in texas, only conservatives.


That I left some out does not equate that I missed them. Liberals tend to be intelligent, educated, and informed individuals. Moderates in varying degrees. Neither group seems at all bothered by the US Military doing training exercises in several different states. Most of these people would understand what infowars and other right-wing 'media' sites are at a glance; something not to trust at face value. Something to check on the information if pressed.

There are moderates and liberals in Texas, just as there are conservatives and libertarians in Massachusetts. If you ever bothered to look at how counties votes in the elections, you would know that. In several states, Republicans won by slim majorities.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
found myself saying this to you just a couple days ago: good luck on those...which is really just another way of saying youre doomed from the start along those lines.


You talking about knowing reality? Now that is funny!

If conservatives were not 'Low Information Voters' and not bothered by the US Military; why are they STILL bothered by the military training exercises? Enough to have publicly elected individuals tell America they listen to conspiracy wingnuts rather than rational Americans?

Explain the Bastop,TX town meeting with a Lt. Colonel from the US Army. That the military would place private citizens into FEMA camps was REALLY out in the 'paranoid schizophrenic' territory of reality. Do you know why those FEMA camps that are all over the USA were created? They were created due to something specific (that's all the hints you get).


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RE: Jade Helm 15 - 5/21/2015 5:31:13 PM   
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An that is just a fantasy. Unfortunately a fantasy that conservatives have worked into their minds as being a future reality (with all the levels of anxiety, frustration, fear, and anger that would logically come with it). This would be a real example of a people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. While both paranoia and schizophrenia by themselves can be serious illnesses; combining the two creates an even more dangerous individual.


...and they are all armed to the teeth. Am I the only one who finds that scary?

People with severe mental problems (eg paranoia, schizophrenia, high anxiety and anger levels etc) and guns are not a healthy mix. It's not good for their own health, or the health of any one around them.


So, I can see why you don't want your friends armed.

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