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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 5:05:22 AM   
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wel you askedif israeli and muslim terrorism is the same

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"Israeli terrorism"?

Is that like "Muslim terrorism"?




No, I asked if tweakers' calling it Israeli terrorism, would be like others calling Islamic terrorism Muslim terrorism

She is inferring that all Israelis (dirty Jews in her world view) are terrorists, similar to how calling Islamic terrorism "Muslim terrorism" would be incorrect and prejudiced

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 5:11:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		she has never said "dirty jews" not once, that is your ugliness showing...strawman and logical fallacy.

Also again with the ignorance between what israeli and muslim...terrorism is.
How about catholic terrorism or protestant terrorism, or ANY terrorism?



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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 5:18:35 AM   
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she has never said "dirty jews" not once, that is your ugliness showing...strawman and logical fallacy.

Also again with the ignorance between what israeli and muslim...terrorism is.
How about catholic terrorism or protestant terrorism, or ANY terrorism?




You are too stupid to even merit a response

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 5:34:49 AM   
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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 6:00:23 AM   
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For the newbies

Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to. Rude Troll, aka "politesub" is Tweaker Bells main minion. They both deny it but oft let allow their extreme antisemitism to brightly shine through their masks, and their purpose with this thread is to lead you to believe that all Jews are committing terrorism and genocide etc etc etc against any and all Muslims they encounter

Not all Jews are terrorists as they suggest, just as all Muslims are not terrorists, though Islamists are terrorists by definition. In other words, an Islamist isnt the same thing as a Muslim. Islamists are people who follow the Koran, people who believe in the Korans calls to kill or enslave all unbelievers, etc. Throwbacks who take the Koran seriously.

What is really happening on the ground in Israel vs. what leftists and Islamists want you to believe, are two entirely different things. Beware the propaganda, and beware the trolls



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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 6:14:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For the newbies

Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to. Rude Troll, aka "politesub" is Tweaker Bells main minion. They both deny it but oft let allow their extreme antisemitism to brightly shine through their masks, and their purpose with this thread is to lead you to believe that all Jews are committing terrorism and genocide etc etc etc against any and all Muslims they encounter

Not all Jews are terrorists as they suggest, just as all Muslims are not terrorists, though Islamists are terrorists by definition. In other words, an Islamist isnt the same thing as a Muslim. Islamists are people who follow the Koran, people who believe in the Korans calls to kill or enslave all unbelievers, etc. Throwbacks who take the Koran seriously.

What is really happening on the ground in Israel vs. what leftists and Islamists want you to believe, are two entirely different things. Beware the propaganda, and beware the trolls



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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 6:28:09 AM   
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She is inferring that all Israelis (dirty Jews in her world view) are terrorists, similar to how calling Islamic terrorism "Muslim terrorism" would be incorrect and prejudiced

This is a despicable lie.

In post #76 I clearly and specifically identified those responsible: "[Israeli terrorism] is the 'work' of a small minority of far Right settler/colonist thugs who are usually religiously- or ideologically motivated."

You would need to be a special kind of mad to believe that I was "inferring that all Israelis (dirty Jews in her world view) are terrorists" as Sanity is claiming. His claim has as little relationship with reality as the rest of his posts ie no relationship whatsoever.

Why is it that apologists for Israel are always resorting to lies, abuse and claims that are demonstrably untrue, such as Sanity does here? Why can't they rely on the truth? The answer is obvious. He has no valid response to the facts I posted in posts 72 and 76. So he is trying to divert attention from these ugly facts by any means possible. If that means fabricating lies and hurling abuse around, such as "Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to" then that is what Sanity does.

FWIW I am an Australian agnostic. No one is fooled by your lies and abuse Sanity - I suspect people are asking themselves why cant you respond to the facts?
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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 6:35:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For the newbies

Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to. Rude Troll, aka "politesub" is Tweaker Bells main minion. They both deny it but oft let allow their extreme antisemitism to brightly shine through their masks, and their purpose with this thread is to lead you to believe that all Jews are committing terrorism and genocide etc etc etc against any and all Muslims they encounter

Not all Jews are terrorists as they suggest, just as all Muslims are not terrorists, though Islamists are terrorists by definition. In other words, an Islamist isnt the same thing as a Muslim. Islamists are people who follow the Koran, people who believe in the Korans calls to kill or enslave all unbelievers, etc. Throwbacks who take the Koran seriously.

What is really happening on the ground in Israel vs. what leftists and Islamists want you to believe, are two entirely different things. Beware the propaganda, and beware the trolls



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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 4:02:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For the newbies

Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to. Rude Troll, aka "politesub" is Tweaker Bells main minion. They both deny it but oft let allow their extreme antisemitism to brightly shine through their masks, and their purpose with this thread is to lead you to believe that all Jews are committing terrorism and genocide etc etc etc against any and all Muslims they encounter

Not all Jews are terrorists as they suggest, just as all Muslims are not terrorists, though Islamists are terrorists by definition. In other words, an Islamist isnt the same thing as a Muslim. Islamists are people who follow the Koran, people who believe in the Korans calls to kill or enslave all unbelievers, etc. Throwbacks who take the Koran seriously.

What is really happening on the ground in Israel vs. what leftists and Islamists want you to believe, are two entirely different things. Beware the propaganda, and beware the trolls




I wont report this but it shows you up for the obnoxious prick that you are Thomas. If you can show me one post I have made which backs up your slur then feel free. I am sure all the newbies you posted for would love to see you back up your bullshit.

If anyone is trolling it is you, probably because you cant handle the truth.

Like I have said, you are just trying to derail the thread and get it shut down.

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 5:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Propaganda is what's done when we only have one side of the story. This has been historically pro-Israel for us here in the States because Israel is an ally.

I would imagine Arab countries have had a much different take on the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, since they have no loyalty to Israel to skew their information towards them.

Being able to look at the situation subjectively, for probably the first time ever, we can now see that both sides have been and continue to be horrible to each other.

We cannot overlook atrocities committed by our allies anymore because they reflect upon us throughout the region, and ultimately, it will be up to us to resolve it all.

Israel has expanded beyond its UN determined boarders. Probably illegally. I can't help to think what if Canada were attacking and taking over parts of Alaska on a regular basis? Would we demonize Alaskan citizens for fighting back, or for how they're fighting back, while the State is overrun?

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 7:03:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		JVoV there is no justifiable side... there is only history. One thing we have in our western society is a free press and this allows us to make informed judgments. I'll not deny our media is biased but the bias is formed by the reader or viewership. Otherwise our media gives the facts but also tells us these facts in a way they believe we what to hear them... if that makes sense to you.

Many Arab or Muslim countries do not have a free press and cannot make the same informed judgments. They are often feed hate and fear by their state regulated media.

So in a way we have no one to blame for our part in the middle east because we were and are informed. I believe many Arab and Muslims can be forgiven somewhat because they have not been informed with the truth to make moral and fair judgments.


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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 7:21:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Butch, I value your insight about what's going on in Ferguson because you are there to see it. Even if I don't agree with your views on why it's happening, or on a feasible solution, I can't argue your facts.

So how can I ignore the voices of Palestinians and Israelis that are speaking out against atrocities committed by both sides there?

I believe that the UN needs to step in, and hopefully end the violence on both sides.

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 7:33:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think you should... I hope you did not get that idea from my post... I am just saying there is no just innocent side in this conflict...we can see this I'm not sure they can.

I am afraid someone has to win... or an agreement between the two parties they can live with is the only solution. The UN could do nothing...first there is no guarantee they could force Israel to do anything and just keeping the sides separated will solve nothing... What may I ask would you have the UN do...and how will that solve the problems between them?

Butch

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 7:56:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, I agree. The UN is fairly useless these days, not that it ever had any teeth.

But until Israel stops poking their neighbors, I don't think we should continue defending them.

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 9:06:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
One thing we have in our western society is a free press and this allows us to make informed judgments. I'll not deny our media is biased but the bias is formed by the reader or viewership. Otherwise our media gives the facts but also tells us these facts in a way they believe we what to hear them... if that makes sense to you.


We don't have a free press. It's damn expensive to buy them off.


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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 9:07:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with you but it is not practical unless support is also withheld from the Palestinians...and that will not happen sad but so.

BUT

I do think we should use the threat of withdrawing aid to stop some of Israel's provocative behaviors such as settlements in disputed territory and terrorists actions of certain Israeli ultra-conservatives.

Butch

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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/14/2015 9:12:03 PM   
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RE: Firebombs kill Palestinian child - 8/15/2015 11:42:27 AM   
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Yep...Fox is an expensive whore...


They all are.


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