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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 11:07:01 AM   
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When's the last time you fucked a whole day straight just for the desire of doing so?


I can't remember the last time I had sex that lasted more than a couple of hours let alone all day.

Sex lasting for hours is normal.
Lasting for all day?
Only when on vacation. With a new partner. Who doesn't have a headache. And who slept well the night before. And who doesn't have to get out of bed to pick up the kids from school. Or to make dinner. Or to do the dishes. Or to go to work.

In other words, hours? Yes. Days? Nope.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 11:44:16 AM   
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I taught physics for a few years and back in those days if one took an equation and raised the exponents of the elements within the equation it did not change the relationship but only the value...have things changed recently?

While I have never taught physics, if we're gonna throw educational credentials out here, I doubt many on this forum have a higher educational degree than I do (although many do have high-level degrees, and some even teach at that high level), so, you and I can speak mano e mano about physics without having to water down the conversation for the hoi polloi.

Let's take the physics of objects in motion in our universe. As you know, objects in our universe follow simple universal laws, one of which is the relative path of that object in spacetime. To wit, unaccelerating objects in motion actually follow straight paths in a curved spacetime, which we can mathematically visualize with conic sections. If you slice a conic section a certain way, as you know, you'll get a parabola (among other elliptical shapes), whose equation is y^2=X.

That is, as x increments by a certain amount, y increments by an increasingly larger amount.

Figuratively, think of the number of men wanting/desiring/needing/etc sex as the value of y, while the corresponding number of women satisfying that need for the men as the intertwined value of x.

Notice that y increases at a rate far larger than does x.
It's exponential. Not one to one.

It's like the age-old thought experiment of what would you rather have: A million dollars on day 1, or a penny doubled every day for a month?

Point is, the exponent has a huge effect on the results.
The sheer NUMBERS are where I'm basing my arguments upon.

I'm interpreting, from the easy-to-measure NUMBERs, the hard-to-measure CONCEPT of desire!
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I can assure you that there are significantly more than a few million prostitutes in the world.

That makes the NUMBERS of men going to them even larger than I had assumed.
Why so many men going to prostitutes when some of those men have a lady waiting for them at home?
Is it that the men DESIRE more sex than they're getting at home?

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I am old and ugly so I may have a little more objective knowledge on this subject than you. I live in Nevada where we have 34 licensed brothels.

As an aside, I HATE the way they do things in Nevada.

There is no price list. You can't objectively compare one woman to another. Most, as you may know, are women from other areas, many of whom have young families, who are "consultants", where each charges whatever the market will bear (found only by direct negotiation). The house (and Congress) simply takes their cut of the woman's gross. The rest is her profit. Bleh. I prefer a set one-size-fits-all price list, like they have in Germany. You pay one price to get in the door; from that, you get free drinks from lovely ladies for as long as you like, and, when you're ready to party, you simply snap your fingers and choose one of a dozen or so who wander about delivering the drinks, and, if you're very happy in the end, you give her an extra tip; but if you're not, you just walk out with just your original credit card receipt in hand and a smile on your face.

Much easier and simpler than how they do things in Nevada.

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My experience indicates that a significant number of the ladies who work at this profession do so because they enjoy sex and this is a way to get paid for doing what they enjoy.

Let's assume that, were you and I to be neighbors who hang our laundry on the line, that we'd have a similar amount of soiled clothes. So, given our similar experiences, I would say that I ALWAYS converse with the ladies, as you seem to. I ask about their kids (some even have pictures of them in the rooms in Nevada, as you may be aware). Many are surprised that I ask about them, but it's in my nature to care about others. I ask why they do this. Most have told me they do it for the money. Many say they don't tell their family what they're doing (which is why Nevada is so convenient for a young mom from, say, Alabama). All are very nice women (you know this because in Nevada, as in Germany, you TALK to them first, at and around the bar, before holding hands and walking down the hallway to their suite).

All prostitutes will converse with you if you ask them questions. Rest assured, I ask questions.
None have ever told me they do it for the sex.

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If a lady has been in the profession for 30 years they are either Oscar award winning actresses or they enjoy their work.

Sports careers are short, because the human body is in its prime for only a short period of time, and, what's worse, 20-year-old kids are entering the field every day that you age over 30.

It's the same with prostitutes. For every day she ages over 30, another 20-year-old hottie enters the field. At some point, she can't compete as a mere prostitute, so, she has to change her strategy, since looks don't work at 40 like they did at 20. Point is, I think prostitutes have careers that are about as long as sports careers (replace the broadcasting contracts with Madam contracts as they age).

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I think you would agree that a prostitute's reputation is her greatest financial asset.

I'm not sure I would know a prostitute's reputation. It has been decades since I've met one, but, I haven't been to Nevada since I was a kid in graduate school, and I haven't been to a German whorehouse since I was in my first or second job, so, I wouldn't know her reputation from her looks. I think a prostitutes greatest asset is the ability to convince we idiot guys that she is madly in love with us. She thinks our cock is the sweetest biggest bestest cock she has ever seen (and rest assured, she has seen a lot, so that's a wonderful complement, or so we think).

If we even "talk" to her, she tells us we're the nicest guy she ever met; and, truth be known, she'll actually pick us out of a crowd (at least years ago when we were all muscle and dressed in wool suits and pressed white cotton shirts) whether in Nevada or in Munich so that she doesn't have to spend time with some fat old 40 or 50 year old guy (who we are now).

But, rest assured, in my humble experience, no matter how much she tells us that we were the best she has ever had, she's NOT doing it for the sex. We are. She isn't.

Why is that?
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
If the lady of one's choice cannot engender passion (either real or imagined) she will not get a significant tip or repeat business.
I am afraid that you have been less than convincing in your opinions.

I'm afraid you are correct.
Nobody is convinced of my opinions.
Luckily, that's what discussions are all about.

I am of the opinion that the sheer numbers of men wanting/having/needing/searching for/advertising for/whining about/etc more and more sex is far greater than the corresponding number of women wanting/having/needing/searching for/advertising for/whining about/etc the need for more and more sex.

It's not one to one. It's many to one.
From that alone, I am extrapolating desire.

I may be wrong.
That's what discussions are all about.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:11:42 PM   
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While I never taught physics,


nor English grammar.


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if we're gonna throw educational credentials out here, I doubt anyone on this forum has a higher level of educational degree than I do


I believe this is called a redundancy.



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(although many have higher-level degrees, and some even teach at that higher level), so, you and I can speak mano e mano


Mano a hijo



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about physics without having to water down the conversation for the hoi polloi.


We are not discussing physics. We are discussing sex.

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Let's take the physics of orbits. As you know, simple orbits follow paths which we can mathematically visualize with conic sections. If you slice a conic section a certain way, as you know, you'll get a parabola (among other shapes), whose equation is y^2=X.

That is, as x increments by a certain amount, y increments by an increasingly larger amount.


It's the age-old thought experiment of what would you rather have: A million dollars on day 1, or a penny doubled every day for a month?

Point is, the exponent has a huge effect on the results.
The sheer NUMBERS are where I'm basing my arguments upon.

I'm interpreting, from the easy-to-measure NUMBERs, the hard-to-measure CONCEPT of desire!

The thought question for you is:
Where do you think the exponent came from when we're talking about sexual desire?



You have explained something I did not say. Here is what I said.

"I taught physics for a few years and back in those days if one took an equation and raised the exponents of the elements within the equation it did not change the relationship but only the value...have things changed recently"?

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:19:43 PM   
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I actually am an ex-hooker (though nowhere near that long or frequent), so I have some experience with the end result that men get from the experience... the enjoyment they get from it... the 'benefit' so to say...

This is a WONDERFUL experience for the purpose of understanding DESIRE then!
I just replied to a post that said female prostitutes often do it for the desire, whereas I said that they do it, in my humble experience, for the money.

I read these posts line by line, so, I can't wait to see your perspective on the WHY part.

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And I'll tell you right now, that if you could advertise a male hooker to women and GUARANTEE them that he was 'good enough' to provide them with an equal service and level of enjoyment as men receive from female hookers... he's be busier than your hypothetical girl.

Hmmmmmm.... I'm not sure what that means.
As a satisfied customer, all I want from a hooker is her ACTING skills.

I own her if I paid for her (figuratively speaking). That means she does precisely what "I" want her to do (within negotiated limits, of course). So, if I want her to lightly slap my hard cock back and forth with a padded ping-pong paddle, that's what she does. But there's more because I am paying for an ACTRESS!

As an actress, she's a professional whom I want to look like she ENJOYS playing with me!

Yes, I know she's doing it (just) for the money; but I'm easily swayed (mentally). In fact, all she has to do is realistically PRETEND she enjoys when I get down on all fours and wiggle my swaying teabag into the large cup of almost-hot water she is holding in her pretty little hands. To arouse me, she merely needs to giggle, or say Ummmm... "nice pet", or some such feminine accolade of praise for my actions.

When she tugs curtly on my collar, where the bells she unexpectedly attached to my nipples tinkle from the sudden movement, I know it's finally time to obediently crawl on all fours to her feminine legs and to kiss or bathe her feet in warm soapy water, and to continue such classic foreplay until it's finally time for the climax (time being what I'm paying for), which, for me, is when she realistically PRETENDS (she's an actress, after all) to orgasm from my efforts, even if my neck is sore from thrusting with the face dildo I brought with me in my toy bag for her to use on me.

Her (simulated) orgasm is my pleasure climax, where I suspend disbelief, for the purpose of paying for this erotic experience.
She is an ACTRESS.
I am the willing customer who suspends disbelief, for the purpose at hand of gaining pleasure from her acting skills.

Having outlined "my" personal predilections above, if an outstanding male hooker did the same for his average female customer, would he be "busier than our hypothetical girl"?

What say you?
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It's not women's brain's that don't work that way. It's the anatomy... and the skill level of you're average dude out there.

I don't know the skill level of the average dude.

I almost always have had the hooker praise me as better than the rest (however, we must remember, that the hoooker's prime role is as an actress an my prime role is to be the sap who pays for her time). To that effect, I remember once, I didn't even TALK to one, who suddenly "chose" me, out of a group of men who were actively pursuing her, and when I immediately asked her WHY she chose me, I remember her answer very clearly. She said "'cuz you ain't stupid like they is" [sic]. I didn't choose her, but, I had thought that funny at the time (still do).
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Oh... and the reason I was hooking back then was for fun... not for the money.

That is an interesting concept. If "I" could hook for money, I would, I really really really would.
I doubt I could though. Maybe I'd do it for BOTH the money and for the pleasure that pleasing others gets me.
Dunno. It isn't gonna happen.
But, hell, if I could get away with it, I'd please women all day every day for free, if I could.
But, it isn't gonna happen.
For me anyway.

Women don't seem to want that.
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I had a day job that paid the bills. Hooking was something I did on the weekends to have a good time.

Well, then you've proved me wrong.
I always thought hookers did it for the money.
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Me and the other girls would often go party after our shift ended and have some more sex... for free.

Where were you when I was in my prime?
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When's the last time you fucked a whole day straight just for the desire of doing so?

Now I see the quote that I responded to a response of, earlier.
I guess, for women, fucking a whole day straight may be easier than for men, who have repeat-performance issues, but, if you count foreplay as part of the fucking regime, a few hours is perfectly normal, but a whole set of 24 of them is a bit much.

I guess anyone who can actually repeatedly fuck for days on end, is certainly far more horny than I am (or ever will be).

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:21:16 PM   
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We are not discussing physics. We are discussing sex.


That made me lol. As an ex escort I can say that most people who I encountered definitely thought sex had nothing to do with physics ;) but then I guess you are paying the girl to do the work so you can lie there.

Oh and to comment on the "doing it for fun" bit... that is what I told my clients, but I only had sex with a few of them... I had 7 guys, one for each day of the week, plus the ones that payed me to drive me to and from my day job.... which generally consisted of driving while masturbating and sniffing my panties... or I might occasionally blurt out "god im so horny" and start masturbating. One of my guys we would just garden and play with his dogs, each was different. And I enjoyed my time with some of them but it was a job, you put on an act of what they want during the time you're there's then back to "normal"

not one of them ever got me off, no it wasn't about the sex, did I like it..... well it was better than being home, my clients were all sweet guys who I wouldn't have even minded dating for real(the two that weren't married anyways) if life had rolled those dice. But id cosider whoring for the sex like becoming a cashier because you like money... ither peoples change isn't going to make you richer.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:24:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
nor English grammar.

I think my use of English grammar is as goodly as anyone's here. :)
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"I taught physics for a few years and back in those days if one took an equation and raised the exponents of the elements within the equation it did not change the relationship but only the value...have things changed recently"?

Let's try again.
Using your words.
I'm saying the "VALUE" (i.e., the NUMBER) of men wanting/having/paying-for/looking-for/whatever sex is far greater than the number of women doing the same.

Using your words, the sheer number of men is the VALUE of the "y^2".
The number of women is the value of the "x".

It's not 1:1.
There's an exponent involved.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:35:37 PM   
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I'm not sure I would know a prostitute's reputation. It has been decades since I've met one, but, I haven't been to Nevada since I was a kid in graduate school, and I haven't been to a German whorehouse since I was in my first or second job, so, I wouldn't know her reputation from her looks. I think a prostitutes greatest asset is the ability to convince we idiot guys that she is madly in love with us. She thinks our cock is the sweetest biggest bestest cock she has ever seen (and rest assured, she has seen a lot, so that's a wonderful complement, or so we think).

If we even "talk" to her, she tells us we're the nicest guy she ever met; and, truth be known, she'll actually pick us out of a crowd (at least years ago when we were all muscle and dressed in wool suits and pressed white cotton shirts) whether in Nevada or in Munich so that she doesn't have to spend time with some fat old 40 or 50 year old guy (who we are now).



I haven't been 50 in quite some time.
Since I got out of the military in the 60's my weight has fluctuated wildly between 169 and 170.


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But, rest assured, in my humble experience, no matter how much she tells us that we were the best she has ever had, she's NOT doing it for the sex. We are. She isn't.


When I go to the brothel no one tells me I have the most impressive tool or that I am the best conductor their train ever had. What they ask me is what I want to do. How I want to do it. How long I want to do it. It really is all about me...I am the customer.
Since you are obviously a young and handsome fellow with many interesting ladies in hot pursuit you would have no need of knowledge of who is good at this or that but not so good as someone else is at this other thing. For those of us who do not share your good fortune we must surender ourselves to the ministrations of these dedicated professionals. If, for instance, someone has a "removable bridge" or possibly even a "full set" oral sex becomes elevated to the level of art form....here is where "reputation" comes to play.


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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:41:10 PM   
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OK lets try it again.
You are mistaken...no strike that...you are wrong and willfully so.

a+b=c
a squared +b squared = c squared

The relationship between a and b does not change just the gross number.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:48:59 PM   
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We are not discussing physics. We are discussing sex.


That made me lol. As an ex escort I can say that most people who I encountered definitely thought sex had nothing to do with physics ;) but then I guess you are paying the girl to do the work so you can lie there.


I actually do a lot more than just lay there. I moan and writh quite a bit, there is this ear to ear grin that cramps my cheeks and of course there is the drooling and the twitching



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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 12:49:20 PM   
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So, WHY do those millions of men in the USA, who have a steady partner, go to the whores in such huge numbers?


Because men like variety? I'm guessing men will have many different answers. Just as if you ask the women who are having affairs outside of their steady partners why they do it. They will give you their own reasons.

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And it's still all your opinion. Which you have a lot of. You're still light on facts.

What we need, which we don't have, is a MEASUREMENT of how horny people are.


What we're discussing is how much someone wants something. That is not the same as horny.

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In my humble opinion, men are so much hornier than women, that women can't even fathom how horny men are.
The difference is in orders of magnitude, in my humble opinion.


Because you've been a woman. Right? And you've felt both sides? Ever taken female hormones? No?

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I do UNDERSTAND your point - which is - if I may paraphrase - that women are just as horny as men are (in general).
Certainly the EXAMPLES I showed above of female teachers who made the news because they risked everything to have sex with young boys supports your supposition.


So let's (AGAIN) look at links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1c7xs6/people_often_say_that_women_are_as_horny_as_guys/
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_are_women_naturally_more_horny_then_men
http://www.sexscience.org/PDFs/Gender%20Differences%20and%20Similarities%20in%20Sexuality%20Final.pdf

Another difficulty in understanding gender differences in sexual behavior is that most studies have relied on self-report. Sometimes people are not completely honest when reporting their sexual behavior, and if someone believes that certain sexual behavior is not in keeping with social expectations for their sex or gender, that person might be even more likely not to report it. Research into self-report of sexual activity has indicated that males tend to over-report whereas females tend to under-report. However, if research participants believe that their honesty is being monitored by a lie detector, there tend to be very few gender differences in reported sexual behavior (Alexander & Fisher, 2003).

Sexual desire and expression vary greatly from person to person. Expecting certain types of behavior based on gender stereotypes is likely to lead to misunderstanding and frustration when trying to understand the behavior of other people. Regardless of the nature, origin, or extent of gender differences in sexuality, differences among women and differences among men are far greater than the difference between the average woman and the average man.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/07/how-strong-is-the-female-sex-drive-after-all/277429/

Far from being more sexually modest and restrained than the male libido, the female sex drive is "omnivorous" and "at base, nothing if not animal" writes Bergner.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/estrogen-plays-key-role-revving-women-sex-drives-study-article-1.1330163
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-11/male-sex-drive-depends-on-both-estrogen-and-testosterone

Anyway, yeah... It's not about opinion. It's about fact.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 1:07:42 PM   
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When I go to the brothel no one tells me I have the most impressive tool or that I am the best conductor their train ever had. What they ask me is what I want to do. How I want to do it. How long I want to do it. It really is all about me...I am the customer.


I understand what you're saying, but that is just the obligatory quick negotiation which occurs before you take off your clothes (and certainly well before she removes hers). The talk I'm speaking about starts just about when you have to stop her well-played-out routine just to let her know you wish to only very slowly remove her clothes - saving the good stuff for later - much later - in the acting sequence). She is often surprised, but always acquiesces.

Since absolutely nothing is written down, you are describing the initial verbal agreement which is your only receipt as she nods accent while you are placing your hard-earned rolled up bills on the nightstand and before she expertly snaps that up in a single smooth motion like a frog snares prey on her way to the washroom to freshen up a bit (or, in the case of Nevada, to run the obligatory decidedly non-sexual go:nogo wash and close top-to-bottom lift-up-the-covers inspection of your now-very-exposed soapy genitalia).

Still, to your point, even AFTER those mandatory program-management interactions, these very professional women do vary in their (simulated) accolades of your endowment and performance.

Some of these professionals are (apparently) highly impressed simply by you being an American (the bar is pretty low in some countries, like Czechoslovakia (yeah, I know it doesn't exist anymore)). Yet, given you are the paying customer, they all ask what you want, to varying degrees. For example, if you've ever been to Asia, they often spend a LOT more time asking what YOU want (it's more scripted here, IMHO, in the states), and they OFFER rimming, as a standard service (of all things un-American!). :)

Yet, even then, when you are the king customer, they still spend the acting time to pretend you have the sweetest, prettiest, and certainly the biggest cock they've ever seen (they even use their clenched fist, hand over hand, to count, in (simulated) amazement, the overlaps. They know how to please men and we men are correspondingly easy to please.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 1:24:39 PM   
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The relationship between a and b does not change just the gross number.


How would you graph this equation (whether or not the statement below is true)?
For every given number of women (a) desiring more sex, there are increasingly more men (b-squared) wanting same.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 1:33:37 PM   
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Because men like variety?

Don't women enjoy variety?
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I'm guessing men will have many different answers. Just as if you ask the women who are having affairs outside of their steady partners why they do it. They will give you their own reasons.

I'm guessing that the reasons will be simpler given by the men, than those provided by the women.

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What we're discussing is how much someone wants something. That is not the same as horny.

I think we're discussing DESIRE.
I equate DESIRE with HORNINESS.
But, maybe I err?
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Because you've been a woman. Right? And you've felt both sides? Ever taken female hormones? No?

As I said many times, nobody can feel, for sure, the level of sexual DESIRE that any other person feels.
It's just impossible.
All we can do (and all I'm discussing) is how we EXTRAPOLATE that level of desire from the numbers.
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most studies have relied on self-report. Sometimes people are not completely honest

I'm shocked! I say, I'm shocked. People aren't honest when it comes to answering questions about their sexuality?
Say it isn't so. :)

I agree with you. Sexual studies, like all studies, have flaws. Perhaps huge flaws.
That's one reason why I stick with the basics of NUMBERS.
Specifically, NUMBERS of MEN looking for it, as compared to numbers of women doing the same.

My premise is that the relationship is exponential.
If proven true, my next question is always "why?".
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Sexual desire and expression vary greatly from person to person. Expecting certain types of behavior based on gender stereotypes is likely to lead to misunderstanding and frustration when trying to understand the behavior of other people. Regardless of the nature, origin, or extent of gender differences in sexuality, differences among women and differences among men are far greater than the difference between the average woman and the average man.

While nobody can disagree with that statement, leaving it at that is like saying "Mars is far away, so, let's not go there".
If you give up, just because the problem is a tiny bit difficult, then you'll never progress from Algebra 1 to Algebra 2 in high school, or from Calculus to Differential Equations in college.

You can't just say "Everyone is different so there's nothing to conclude. Move on please."

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 1:58:14 PM   
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I'm guessing that the reasons will be simpler given by the men, than those provided by the women.


Who cares?

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I think we're discussing DESIRE.
I equate DESIRE with HORNINESS.
But, maybe I err?


horn·y
ˈhôrnē/
adjective
1. of or resembling horn.
2. feeling or arousing sexual excitement.

de·sire
dəˈzī(ə)r/
noun
1. a strong feeling of wanting to have something or wishing for something to happen.
verb
1. strongly wish for or want (something).

So, not the same, although they are related synonyms, in some fashion, they are not exactly the same. I can WANT sex without being aroused. I can want the kind of man/sex that would arouse me without actually being aroused.

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Specifically, NUMBERS of MEN looking for it, as compared to numbers of women doing the same.


Again, the reasons you HAVE to look for it, is because we CAN get it when we want it badly enough to put up with the risks or crappy sex, creepy dudes, pregnancy and STIs.

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
Sexual desire and expression vary greatly from person to person. Expecting certain types of behavior based on gender stereotypes is likely to lead to misunderstanding and frustration when trying to understand the behavior of other people. Regardless of the nature, origin, or extent of gender differences in sexuality, differences among women and differences among men are far greater than the difference between the average woman and the average man.

While nobody can disagree with that statement, leaving it at that is like saying "Mars is far away, so, let's not go there".


It's just saying that the range of men's behaviors and women's behaviors are more alike than you think, as men and women, within the genders, vary greatly.

So, perhaps the horniest person in the world is a man. Perhaps the most asexual person in the world is also a man. What does that say to you about men versus women, then?

Why do you persist that men and women are so different in their desire for sex? Why have you decided that that MUST be the reason there are more men than women on these sites?

Oh, also, have you realized that men are more likely to make multiple profiles and are more likely to engage in fantasy playacting online? Or, at least in my experience managing communities, that's true. And my experience here. I've had the same man contact me from 8 different profiles.

Just saying.


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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 2:21:57 PM   
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I understand what you're saying, but that is just the obligatory quick negotiation which occurs before you take off your clothes (and certainly well before she removes hers). The talk I'm speaking about starts just about when you have to stop her well-played-out routine just to let her know you wish to only very slowly remove her clothes - saving the good stuff for later - much later - in the acting sequence). She is often surprised, but always acquiesces.


You are not paying attention. I am not a teenager. We spend about five minutes working out the particulars of what I want. She takes the money to the manager and comes back and gets busy.



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Since absolutely nothing is written down, you are describing the initial verbal agreement which is your only receipt


This is a professional brothel. Ripping off a customer puts ones license at risk.

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as she nods accent while you are placing your hard-earned rolled up bills


The sort of work I used to do was not all that hard. It seldom required me to lift as much as a half pound.




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on the nightstand and before she expertly snaps that up in a single smooth motion like a frog snares prey on her way to the washroom to freshen up a bit (or, in the case of Nevada, to run the obligatory decidedly non-sexual go:nogo wash and close top-to-bottom lift-up-the-covers inspection of your now-very-exposed soapy genitalia).

Still, to your point, even AFTER those mandatory program-management interactions, these very professional women do vary in their (simulated) accolades of your endowment and performance.



no they don't ...it usually goes a little like this...."Here let me put this pillow here, now drape your legs over my shoulders... comfey ...you should fasten your seat belt hon this is an E ticket ride."

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Some of these professionals are (apparently) highly impressed simply by you being an American (the bar is pretty low in some countries, like Czechoslovakia (yeah, I know it doesn't exist anymore)). Yet, given you are the paying customer, they all ask what you want, to varying degrees. For example, if you've ever been to Asia, they often spend a LOT more time asking what YOU want


I have found that there is quite a bit of varriation in Asia. In Bangkok the girls are pretty provincial and not all that adventurous. Singapore on the other hand is a bit less provincial. Japan is a more sophisticated encounter with lots of time being taken up with ritual bathing etc. The Phillippines on the other hand I have found to be pretty open minded. One would think that Hong Kong and Macaao being so close would harbor simlar practices but that was not my experience.







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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 4:58:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


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Get a room already!


That would make it a foursome? That sounds lethal to a man my age. I suppose there are worse ways to die.


But isn't that the point of the whole thread? 4:1? One more woman and we have our ratio! Because history!



"My rigs a little old but that don't mean I'm slow"....I think I am being teased. You have exactly 6 months to stop (that is a negotiable figure)

Oh I love rigs...my grandma used to run a truck stop, out in west Texas...good times

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 5:03:41 PM   
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While I have never taught physics, if we're gonna throw educational credentials out here, I doubt many on this forum have a higher educational degree than I do (although many do have high-level degrees, and some even teach at that high level), so, you and I can speak mano e mano about physics without having to water down the conversation for the hoi polloi.

Yeah. No. Try mano a mano.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 5:10:05 PM   
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And I'll tell you right now, that if you could advertise a male hooker to women and GUARANTEE them that he was 'good enough' to provide them with an equal service and level of enjoyment as men receive from female hookers... he's be busier than your hypothetical girl.

Hmmmmmm.... I'm not sure what that means.
As a satisfied customer, all I want from a hooker is her ACTING skills.


And that, ladies and gentlemen, says it all.

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 5:46:15 PM   
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Try mano a mano.

Thanks for the correction.
I type from head to hand, without pause for contemplation. It's stream of thought consciousness, translated into finger memory.
Looking it up, you're wholly correct that it's "mano a mano" (hand to hand, as in hand-to-hand combat).

However, "mano e mano" is also in the urban dictionary, but that's probably because it's often misspelled.
Apparently Cecil, of Straight Dope fame, also did a quickie on this topic, comparing it to tête-à-tête (head to head).

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RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace - 8/26/2015 6:03:10 PM   
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I have found that there is quite a bit of varriation in Asia. In Bangkok the girls are pretty provincial and not all that adventurous. Singapore on the other hand is a bit less provincial. Japan is a more sophisticated encounter with lots of time being taken up with ritual bathing etc. The Phillippines on the other hand I have found to be pretty open minded. One would think that Hong Kong and Macaao being so close would harbor simlar practices but that was not my experience.

This is a good point, as there is no such single thing as "Asia", especially when it comes to cultural sexual mores.
Like many businessmen, I know how it works in Japan, China, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
I have no idea how it works in any other Asian locale.

As you noted, they're all different. The Japanese are the most formal, where they charge an arm and a leg, and you pay the madam, not the lady - I'm not sure why. (It's generally not even worth it, in Japan, it's so expensive.)

The Japanese are the most commercial, where you start at those hostess bars that allow foreigners (discrimination in Japan is amazingly in the open where you can be refused entry right to your face, with the reason simply given to your business hosts that you're a gaijin). You buy the young girl champagne as she sits on your lap, and you simply pay for her time. Then, they always suggest you pay the madam some horrendous price to take the girl to the hotel for some "more conversation", and you take the lady to your hotel. All the negotiation is with the madam at the bar, not with the girl in the hotel. The girl in the hotel just does whatever it is that you negotiated with the madam (sometimes she calls back to confirm, if it's out of the norm. Heh heh ... ).

The Japanese and Chinese are the ones I've found who are (either sincerely or acting that they are) amazed at standard Mediterranean proportions. They are even amazed at the breadth of our chest and shoulders, along with our other dangly body parts, when they give their classic foreplay massage. The Filipinos don't seem to make any specific distinction over such sizes, but they're not Asians so we probably shouldn't lump them into the same category anyway.

What are the Thailand ladies like in this respect? I'm curious.

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