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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 4:02:52 PM   
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I believe I would have handled it differently.. Most I'm sure think they would have handled it differently....I would say with hindsight he wishes he had handled it differently...But we only have hindsight... not a large man charging us after trying to take away our weapon.

There is plenty in the report to blame the police and the judicial system in Ferguson for...But... the Brown killing though tragic was not one of them.... But... the little punk who lied is ass off and half destroyed his city did do some good... He brought people together with the will to voice their frustration and bring about needed change

Butch

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 4:16:07 PM   
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From what I have heard recently, (there was an episode on pbs and available on line)he has rx a fair amount of money from his well wishers and has bought a house and some toys. There is also a wrongful death suit pending and if 'oj" is any indication of how things may go his nice crib in the burbs and his toys may belong to someone else when it is over. Since you are somewhat aware of the two doj reports you have acknowledged the illegal police practices in ferguson. Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 6:12:02 PM   
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They had none... all his statements were proven true by witnesses and the physical evidence. He was totally blameless or the report would have recommended prosecution or dismissal.

I believe I would have handled it differently.. Most I'm sure think they would have handled it differently....I would say with hindsight he wishes he had handled it differently...But we only have hindsight... not a large man charging us after trying to take away our weapon.

There is plenty in the report to blame the police and the judicial system in Ferguson for...But... the Brown killing though tragic was not one of them.... But... the little punk who lied is ass off and half destroyed his city did do some good... He brought people together with the will to voice their frustration and bring about needed change

Butch

Isn't it frustrating still having to explain that case a year after Wilson was cleared.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 6:14:19 PM   
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Isn't it frustrating still having to explain that case a year after Wilson was cleared.


You will be explaining it for a long time to come.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:13:01 PM   
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Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?

You seem to accept the DOJ's report on the Ferguson Police Department uncritically enough. Why are you dubious about the DOJ's report on its investigation of Michael Brown's death? Your trust in their findings appears to be predicated on little more than whether you agree with them.

K.



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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:16:03 PM   
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Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?



I really don't... as far as I've heard he had no past record of abuse of his badge... I think he was surprised by the reaction of the Brown and when the kid tried to get his gun he was shook up and the adrenaline effected his decision making. Otherwise i think he was scared shitless when Brown decided to charge him. I believe he was in fear of his life... he was afraid if Brown got to him he would be fighting with a much larger man and could loose the battle... so... he killed him.

In other threads many discussed what he should have done...me too... but we talk in hindsight. I still think I would have done things differently and like i said if Wilson had had more time to think I believe he would have too.

Now I am just talking about Wilson and Brown incident...not the transgressions of the Ferguson police and court system which are well documented...and on their way to change.

Butch

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:29:56 PM   
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Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?



I really don't... as far as I've heard he had no past record of abuse of his badge... I think he was surprised by the reaction of the Brown and when the kid tried to get his gun he was shook up and the adrenaline effected his decision making. Otherwise i think he was scared shitless when the Brown decided to charge him. I believe he was in fear of his life... he was afraid if Brown got to him he would be fighting with a much larger man and could loose the battle... so... he killed him.

In other threads many discussed what he should have done...me too... but we talk in hindsight. I still think I would have done things differently and like i said if Wilson had had more time to think I believe he would have too.

Now I am just talking about Wilson and Brown incident...not the transgressions of the Ferguson police and court system which are well documented...and on their way to change.

Butch

One correction, Brown had already demonstrated not that Wilson could lose the fight but most likely would lose the fight.


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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:34:51 PM   
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Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?



I really don't... as far as I've heard he had no past record of abuse of his badge... I think he was surprised by the reaction of the Brown and when the kid tried to get his gun he was shook up and the adrenaline effected his decision making. Otherwise i think he was scared shitless when the Brown decided to charge him. I believe he was in fear of his life... he was afraid if Brown got to him he would be fighting with a much larger man and could loose the battle... so... he killed him.

In other threads many discussed what he should have done...me too... but we talk in hindsight. I still think I would have done things differently and like i said if Wilson had had more time to think I believe he would have too.

Now I am just talking about Wilson and Brown incident...not the transgressions of the Ferguson police and court system which are well documented...and on their way to change.

Butch

Gunny has made it clear over the years that he hates cops.


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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:39:11 PM   
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Gunny has made it clear over the years that he hates cops.



... and Marines.



Michael

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:43:24 PM   
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Gunny has made it clear over the years that he hates cops.



... and Marines.



Michael

Yep


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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:51:41 PM   
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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:52:57 PM   
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Gunny has made it clear over the years that he hates cops.

... and Marines.

And the USAF (the "air farce")

K.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:53:15 PM   
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... 'til I die.



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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:56:23 PM   
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And the USAF (the "air farce")

K.




Hell, I do that, in a playful way (like how I call sailors "squids"), but, at the end of the day, I've never disrespected anyone that served because of their service (except for people like Bowe Bergdhal or John Kerry).

Also, as a teen-ager, I was Civil Air Patrol



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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 8:57:59 PM   
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Gunny has made it clear over the years that he hates cops.

... and Marines.

And the USAF (the "air farce")

K.


Any thing that stands for the U S and anyone who protects it's people are on his bad list. Anyone who thinks they still have a case against Wilson is either an idiot or a blind idealoge.

As you may remember I am retired USAF

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 9:04:08 PM   
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And the USAF (the "air farce")

K.




Hell, I do that, in a playful way (like how I call sailors "squids"), but, at the end of the day, I've never disrespected anyone that served because of their service (except for people like Bowe Bergdhal or John Kerry).

Also, as a teen-ager, I was Civil Air Patrol



Michael

When a jarhead, squid, or grunt calls me a zoomie that is one thing when an anti service troll does it it is another thing. Like it is ok to use the n word, if you are black. Servicemen have earned the right, except of course those who have turned on their fellow servicemen, like Bergdal and Kerry.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 9:09:09 PM   
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As you may remember I am retired USAF

Yeah, but you weren't in the "real military".

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/7/2015 9:45:56 PM   
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As you may remember I am retired USAF

Yeah, but you weren't in the "real military".

K.



The Marines say that about everyone. We were the best service, for the most part we sent the officers out to get shot at.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/8/2015 4:48:11 AM   
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Do you think it is possible that this punkassmotherfucker intentionally escalated the level of violence until he was "justified" in "popin' a cap in this 'thug'"?

You seem to accept the DOJ's report on the Ferguson Police Department uncritically enough. Why are you dubious about the DOJ's report on its investigation of Michael Brown's death? Your trust in their findings appears to be predicated on little more than whether you agree with them.

K.





I have an equal level of trust in the two documents.

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RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group - 9/8/2015 4:53:59 AM   
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As if either of you two pogues had a clue as to what that means or even when the "suck" began.

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