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BamaD -> RE: The Coalition to Stop Gun ...Safety? (9/18/2015 5:52:57 PM)
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Wriggling again.
Perhaps you need reminding that your original statement specifically brought up the fact that the 20% were black.
"where the unemployment rate among young blacks is upwards of 20%"
That makes the statement racist.
No that means that I am blaming it on the high unemployment.
That is only racist if you are determined to see racism in everything.
A Most crime is in the inner city undisputable fact
B The unemployment among young blacks is in the area of 20% and up this too is an undisputable fact
C The vast majority in the inner city is black again a simple fact
D People without hope go to crime more readily than those who can see another way out. fact
E Not once did I say that blacks are more to prone to crime than anyone else.
F You, in your hypersensitive politically correct mindset, injected racism where it had no part.
Most other sensible people would have just quoted the unemployment stats and NOT included the fact that you were referring specifically to blacks.
I'm not disputing the numbers - just the way you expressed it in your post.
A and B may be true.
C isn't true for every town and city across the USA.
D could only be true IF the only way out was crime. I would bet that the people stuck in Jordan (where drugs are more prolific) have far less options than anyone in the USA. I think this is pure supposition and speculation than actual fact.
E is irrelevant because nobody said you did.
F is false because it was you who injected the race statement, not me.
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Tell that to the 2million+ Syrian refugees in Jordan where the hopeless and jobless are running at about 98%.
Do you see a high crime rate there??
No. They forage, beg, and manage to survive; they don't turn to crime.
Some very few manage to get very low paid work - they are the lucky few.
Apples and oranges, do they see a drug dealer on every corner being the only person in the hood with money, get real.
Also you had to disconnect what I said into multiple part so you could pretend that the individual segments were saying something that no reasonable person would see in it.
Nope. pretty much identical to the slur you were putting onto hopeless and jobless people.
In the example I gave, they didn't resort to crime and therefore didn't have drug dealers on every corner.
This is the point I'm making.... you slur and besmirch people and then have to qualify it when pulled up on it.
It's apples and apples - just a different country where the situation is the same.
I don't pretend anything of the sort - that would be your spin on it.
I split it up so it wasn't a wall of text to make it easier for people to read especially as you seem unable to use the quotes.
Where you as knowledgable as you think you are you would be aware that the unemployment rate for blacks is much higher than for whites. You would also know that it hits young blacks particularly hard. That is the reason that I mentioned the race in relation to blacks, that is their unemployment rate.
I didn't slur anyone, I stated facts, that those facts don't comply with your tender sensibilities is not my problem.
I don't break things up in sections like you do because I like to keep each area of discussion seperate, I also don't take peices of a statement like you do and twist them into something that was never said or intended.
In Syria they forage for food, and if the wrong person has it there is another casualty of war. You should, though apparently you don't that the civilian victims in a war zone routinely do things that would be criminal anywhere else, but since there are so many cases of ISIS burning people alive theft sort of fades into the background, or have you done a personal inspection to see for yourself.
And not one thing you have said in any way casts doubt on the wisdom of teaching gun safety.
Don't you want people to be safe.
Teach kids and you have a much larger portion of the population who know how to be safe.
Before you go on another rant, read this part carefully.
THIS DOES IN NO WAY MEAN THAT I THINK KIDS SHOULD RUN AROUND WITH GUNS UNSUPERVISED.
KIDS CAN GO HUNTING AS YOUNG AS 12 WITH ADULT SUPERVISION.
THIS MEANS THAT SAFETY TRAINING SHOULD BEGIN NO LATER THAN 10.
I know you will distort this too but it might be humorous to watch you try.
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