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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:46:17 PM   
thompsonx


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My guess is that the first  person to answer christian was taking a shot that the shooter was looking for jews to  kill.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:51:43 PM   
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Clearly whoever you linked to is an idiot.

Is this your code for not havinig read the link? Tell me how phoquing stupid must someone be to disagree with what they have not read?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:52:17 PM   
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Maybe in jolly old England.
But I have never met an American that ignorant.


Golly you never heard of the judeo-christian ethic?
You been liven in a cave cuz???




Now you're the one who is ignorant or deliberately obtuse. You're taking "judeo-christian ethic" out of context.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:54:24 PM   
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Now you're the one who is ignorant or deliberately obtuse. You're taking "judeo-christian ethic" out of context.


Common' sweetie why don't you explane what the phoque it means?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:59:38 PM   
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I still don't think the religious question was as important as the need for the nutjob to have something creepy to say.

Will you say the same thing about the Charleston shooter, or due we only discount things said about people you don't like.


We already know why the victims in Charleston were chosen. I think it's just too early to understand the significance of the Oregon shooter's questioning of religion. Was there a 'right answer' to his question? Or was it just something to say to fuck with his victims' minds?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 4:59:40 PM   
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Maybe in jolly old England.
But I have never met an American that ignorant.


Golly you never heard of the judeo-christian ethic?
You been liven in a cave cuz???



Which only means they are related religions but someone as wise and smart as you should know that they are by no means the same religion.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:20:57 PM   
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Which only means they are related religions but someone as wise and smart as you should know that they are by no means the same religion.


Now tell me cuz...just when did I say that they were the same religion? I asked if you had not heard of the judeo-christian ethic? Perhaps you might explane it?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:28:33 PM   
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It is a socialtal difference, like Mexico has tougher gun laws than you do and far more crime than we do.

Not according to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Mexico






Crime rates in Mexico per 100,000 inhabitants


2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
USA in 2004

Total Crimes
1433.81
1439.41
1391.54
1521.93
1503.71
4118.76

Murder
14.93
15.13
14.11
13.94
13.04
5.62

Murder with firearm
3.45
4.54
3.66
3.53
2.58
3.12

Assault
254.35
257.39
260.39
260.41
251.91
NA

Aggravated assault
171.06
172.02
185.01
187.33
186.68
310.14

Rape
11.89
11.9
13.33
13.05
14.26
32.99

Theft
148.27
108.11
100.22
116.74
112.47
2445.80

Automobile theft
161.15
161.52
162.10
150.66
139.86
432.12

Robbery
316.54
274.63
219.59
158.16
146.57
145.87

Burglary
145.72
153.58
142.58
NA
NA
746.22

Fraud
54.63
50.48
50.96
54.64
61.47
NA

Drug offenses
20.62
23.97
24.65
23.38
23.40
NA

Source: The 7th[4] and 8th[5] Surveys, United Nations


That's not what I'm finding.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/CrimeCrime

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mexico-s-violent-murder-rate-more-twice-usa

Mexican crime stats are questionable.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/the_battle_over_mexicos_crime_statistics.html


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:31:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm reminded of a similar incident in the 1970s. A rabidly zionist student climbed to the top of the science building and started firing at anyone that looked middle eastern. The captain of the rifle team opened the armory and students had the sniper pinned down when the sheriff arrived. The armed students kept his attention while deputies came up the stairwell and hit the sniper with multiple bean bag rounds. One nut job transported to the hospital and no one killed.

It is a good thing that campuses are safer today with total gun bans on campus.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:32:44 PM   
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I still don't think the religious question was as important as the need for the nutjob to have something creepy to say.

Will you say the same thing about the Charleston shooter, or due we only discount things said about people you don't like.


We already know why the victims in Charleston were chosen. I think it's just too early to understand the significance of the Oregon shooter's questioning of religion. Was there a 'right answer' to his question? Or was it just something to say to fuck with his victims' minds?

Believe what you have to not to damage your world view.


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:34:52 PM   
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Which only means they are related religions but someone as wise and smart as you should know that they are by no means the same religion.


Now tell me cuz...just when did I say that they were the same religion? I asked if you had not heard of the judeo-christian ethic? Perhaps you might explane it?

I told you, they are religions with simular values.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:37:39 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

It is a socialtal difference, like Mexico has tougher gun laws than you do and far more crime than we do.

Not according to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Mexico






Crime rates in Mexico per 100,000 inhabitants


2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
USA in 2004

Total Crimes
1433.81
1439.41
1391.54
1521.93
1503.71
4118.76

Murder
14.93
15.13
14.11
13.94
13.04
5.62

Murder with firearm
3.45
4.54
3.66
3.53
2.58
3.12

Assault
254.35
257.39
260.39
260.41
251.91
NA

Aggravated assault
171.06
172.02
185.01
187.33
186.68
310.14

Rape
11.89
11.9
13.33
13.05
14.26
32.99

Theft
148.27
108.11
100.22
116.74
112.47
2445.80

Automobile theft
161.15
161.52
162.10
150.66
139.86
432.12

Robbery
316.54
274.63
219.59
158.16
146.57
145.87

Burglary
145.72
153.58
142.58
NA
NA
746.22

Fraud
54.63
50.48
50.96
54.64
61.47
NA

Drug offenses
20.62
23.97
24.65
23.38
23.40
NA

Source: The 7th[4] and 8th[5] Surveys, United Nations


That's not what I'm finding.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/CrimeCrime

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mexico-s-violent-murder-rate-more-twice-usa

Mexican crime stats are questionable.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/the_battle_over_mexicos_crime_statistics.html


With much of law enforment under control of the cartles how could they be accurate. If the Mafia ran the U S our reportd crime rates would be much lower.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:40:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		This little tidbit was in your link. With this, how is it possible for any person with a pulse and a three digit i.q. to read any farther?


"Mexico’s Secretary of Interior noted that in Colombia, for example, there are 30 homicides per resident, and that in some Central American countries that figure is higher, reaching 40 homicides per resident."

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:44:26 PM   
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This little tidbit was in your link. With this, how is it possible for any person with a pulse and a three digit i.q. to read any farther?


"Mexico’s Secretary of Interior noted that in Colombia, for example, there are 30 homicides per resident, and that in some Central American countries that figure is higher, reaching 40 homicides per resident."


WoW !!!! With those kind of rates, population numbers in those countries are a negative.


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:44:33 PM   
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I still don't think the religious question was as important as the need for the nutjob to have something creepy to say.


I'm beginning to think something similar re this particular atrocity.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:46:07 PM   
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Which only means they are related religions
I told you, they are religions with simular values.


You dance pretty well for a *****Ah ah! That's not allowed. Be nice or be moderated!***** but I am still waiting for you to tell us what the judeo-christian ethic is?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:48:24 PM   
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This little tidbit was in your link. With this, how is it possible for any person with a pulse and a three digit i.q. to read any farther?


"Mexico’s Secretary of Interior noted that in Colombia, for example, there are 30 homicides per resident, and that in some Central American countries that figure is higher, reaching 40 homicides per resident."


WoW !!!! With those kind of rates, population numbers in those countries are a negative.

The quote sorta speaks to the validity of the link wouldn't you think?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:50:38 PM   
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I think it's just too early to understand the significance of the Oregon shooter's questioning of religion. Was there a 'right answer' to his question?

Well I dunno, what do you think?

High school student Autumn Vicari told NBC News her 19-year-old brother J.J. was in a room filled with students at the college when the gunman entered. According to her brother's account, Vicari said at one point the shooter told people to stand up before asking whether they were Christian or not. Vicari's brother told her that anyone who responded "yes" was shot in the head. If they said "other" or didn't answer, they were shot elsewhere in the body, usually the leg. ~NBC News

K.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:53:26 PM   
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Which only means they are related religions
I told you, they are religions with simular values.


You dance pretty well for a *****Ah ah! That's not allowed. Be nice or be moderated!***** but I am still waiting for you to tell us what the judeo-christian ethic is?


If you want everyone to know then please tell us. Also you might even spell out what ever point it is you're trying to make.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/3/2015 5:54:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I think it's just too early to understand the significance of the Oregon shooter's questioning of religion. Was there a 'right answer' to his question?

Well I dunno, what do you think?

High school student Autumn Vicari told NBC News her 19-year-old brother J.J. was in a room filled with students at the college when the gunman entered. According to her brother's account, Vicari said at one point the shooter told people to stand up before asking whether they were Christian or not. Vicari's brother told her that anyone who responded "yes" was shot in the head. If they said "other" or didn't answer, they were shot elsewhere in the body, usually the leg. ~NBC News

K.


Was the Jew the first one shot or the first one killed?


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